Official Freewing 80mm EDF F-86 Sabre Thread

[gooniac33]

A tip of the hat to all Vietnam Veterans....thank you for your service!

WOW!!! I really like this scheme! Now if we could get freewing to make an F-105 THUD in the same paint scheme!!!!

[xplaneguy]

I had to double-take those F-86 photos, Tony! Looks real, especially with the painted gear struts. Nice!

Thanks Alpha. It was a fun repaint to honor our Vietnam Vets.

[F106DeltaDart]

Thanks fellow RCers for the reply. Will look at other jets for hand launching!

Take a look at the 64mm Freewing Panther and F-22. Both jets are great fliers and are designed for hand launching.

[tsunderl]

Thanks fellow RCers for the reply. Will look at other jets for hand launching!

[Alpha]

I had to double-take those F-86 photos, Tony! Looks real, especially with the painted gear struts. Nice!

[Alpha]

tsunderl, I've seen only one pilot hand toss his Freewing 80mm F-86 consistently and successfully. It flew great but even he admitted it was a lot of effort when he would have been fine with keeping the landing gear and retaining the option to takeoff and land on wheels instead of walking out to go get it after every landing. Officially I wouldn't recommend these mods because this is not how I designed the aircraft to be operated. But for the record, here are the things he did to his aircraft:

1) Removed all three landing gear
2) Taped over the nose gear well completely
3) Taped over the main landing gear well partially, leaving the centermost area untaped so he could put his fingers inside to grip the aircraft for tossing
4) Added adhesive grip tape to that area of the inner well for more positive traction against his fingers
5) Also Dremeled impressions for his fingers in the fuselage just behind the wing root for better traction with a full hand grip.
6) Removed the flap servos, and taped the flap surfaces in the up position.
7) Installed servo horn protectors. I believe they were the ones produced by our friend Keith at www.parkflyerplastics.com: http://parkflyerplastics.com/cart/in...roducts_id=315
8) Used the Admiral 6s 4000mAh PRO battery. not the 5000. Sometimes he used an even lighter 3600 (I'm unsure of the brand).

With a slight headwind and very strong toss gripped just behind while at full power, his F-86 took off very well. Vertical is a subjective thing; honestly it wasn't amazingly faster or more spirited without the gear, but it was lighter and even easier to land than it already is. If you're concerned with performance on your grass runway because it's rough, then I can see exploring the option of hand tossing the aircraft if you really want this specific aircraft and not a smaller more hand launch friendly aircraft. If you're concerned about stock performance with the weight of the landing gear, I filmed this video of Xplaneguy flying his completely stock Freewing 80mm F-86 Sabre. It's an older camera with poor zoom but you get the idea of how the plane isn't a slouch.

If you have an appropriate runway and are thinking about hand launching "just because"... again I'd recommend against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1TUM4YYVdc

[xplaneguy]

A tip of the hat to all Vietnam Veterans....thank you for your service!

[F106DeltaDart]

At this size and wieght, I would imagine that it would be quite difficult to hand launch. At the least, the servos and linkages would need to protected. I stripped a flap servo from regular use, so I can't imagine they would take belly landing well unprotected.

[tsunderl]

Has anyone tried flying this jet as a belly lander by removing gear? Wonder what the vertical performance would be? Appreciate any response

[urrl]

I put a 70mm inrunner in an 80mm F-86 and I'm quite happy with it, especially the sound.

[Lon]

I'm thinking about going to the inrunner upgrade on my F-86. Looking for some feedback on anyone who has upgraded the power system. Worth it??

[Evoman]

For anyone interested in seeing how the legendary F-86 Sabre flew from the pilots seat you have to check out one of the best simulations ever done for DCS by Belsimtek. Its a great way to become familiar with the Sabers flight envelope.
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[AkumaZeto]

I did as well. Just amazed though that the 15 or 17 is not in the larger size

[dkalwishky]

I REALLY WANT A MIG 15 or 17! Cannot believe we dont have one. Seems all the ones that came before where junk. I will say this. My first turbine powered jet will be a F86! Already looking around and thinking of collecting parts! WOOT BIT by the bug!

Freewing has a MIG-21 that is supposed to start shipping later this month. I preordered mine when they were announced.

[AkumaZeto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-9b7g4TFs

[AkumaZeto]

I can get it to run in ubuntu with Wine. Jet is a real keeper. I dont see myself not ever having one. Like the T28 its just does what it needs to and well.

[seaviper]

I am also a flight sim/computer geek. But I spend enough right now on planes. Plus DCS does not run on linux.

Congrats on the F-86 success man!

[AkumaZeto]

I am a die hard watercooling certified overclocking freak with the hardware :) Twin 980's and all. I was referring to other amusement collecting people like myself. Like to build real function cockpits in the house :)

[Evoman]

This sim is fantastic but it can be overwhelming to setup. I knew a few people building in home cockpits for these.

You really don't need a fancy home built to enjoy DCS. All you need to get started is a good PC capable of running DCS and a flight Stick.
I personally use the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick that is fairly priced and is highly rated for its price range.
Also with the new Virtual reality headsets that have come out such as the Oculus Rift you can take it to the next level. VR has kind of made home built cockpits a thing of the past.

[AkumaZeto]

This sim is fantastic but it can be overwhelming to setup. I knew a few people building in home cockpits for these.