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  • RCjetdude
    Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

    • May 2016
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    #1181
    I have seen another one of these planes do the same exact thing. The pilot could hardly get it off the ground because it kept nosing over. Make sure your landing gear are not bent back as well. If the gear are positioned close to the CG even a slight change can make a difference. Are you flying off of grass? If so, initially getting it moving can be a challenge.

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    • fhhuber
      Senior Member

      • Aug 2015
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      #1182
      Run through the definitive in flight CG/trim tests.



      You have to do the tests and corrections IN ORDER because if step 1 is wrong all following steps that depend upon that setting being correct will be wrong.
      Exception is the control throw settings are based on the needs for RC Pattern Aerobatics competition and may not be the correct rates to fly your style.
      FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

      current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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      • Oxotnik
        Actung, Spitfire!

        • Mar 2016
        • 931
        • Huntsville, AL
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        #1183
        Originally posted by RCjetdude
        I have seen another one of these planes do the same exact thing. The pilot could hardly get it off the ground because it kept nosing over. Make sure your landing gear are not bent back as well. If the gear are positioned close to the CG even a slight change can make a difference. Are you flying off of grass? If so, initially getting it moving can be a challenge.
        I'll add to also check the toe of the gear. If the wheels are not straight, then it's like having the brakes on, and the pull of the prop will drive the nose down.
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        Warbirder

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        • jackcutrone
          Non Fragosus

          • Dec 2016
          • 111
          • Lindenhurst, IL
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          #1184
          Originally posted by fhhuber
          Run through the definitive in flight CG/trim tests.



          You have to do the tests and corrections IN ORDER because if step 1 is wrong all following steps that depend upon that setting being correct will be wrong.
          Exception is the control throw settings are based on the needs for RC Pattern Aerobatics competition and may not be the correct rates to fly your style.
          Good resource - some of those I had never heard of before. Thanks.
          Aeromaster 35% Extra 260 (under construction), Hanger 9 40 size P51, SIG Somethin' Extra, Hanger 9 40 size Super Stick, Eflite F4U-1A Corsair, Eflite Carbon Z Yak 54, Freewing Panther F9F, 1/5 scale Piper L4 (in box), Addiction XL (in box), Parkzone Super Cub, Eflite UM's F-16, P51, Revolution & Spitfire, Durafly Das Ugly Stick, Twisted Hobbys Crack Yak & Mini Crack Yak, Align T-Rex 600, Motion RC Avanti (under construction)

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          • Mad Baron
            132 Aviation

            • Sep 2017
            • 547
            • McMinnville Tn.
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            #1185
            Too darn cold here to enjoy the flying.:Angry:

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            • RCjetdude
              Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

              • May 2016
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              #1186
              Our club is having a traditional New Year's day fun fly tomorrow. High of 24 forecast. I dunno about fun, numb maybe.... reminds me of the Polar Bear club. Take your pick, jump in a lake or fly RC planes in the dead of Winter...not sure I would call it fun. :Silly:

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              • OV10
                >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                • Sep 2014
                • 4264
                • Owego, NY
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                #1187
                I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE it's not fun.
                Chatted with TJ yesterday and we both are going to forego this areas New Years Day fun fly because it is only gonna be 10.
                May be old but not stupid. LOL
                Warbird Charlie
                HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                • Grossman56
                  Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                  • Jun 2014
                  • 7325
                  • Cody, Wyoming
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                  #1188
                  LOL:)LOL:):saywha

                  Grossman56
                  Team Gross!

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                  • S.W.Warbirds
                    Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                    • Jan 2015
                    • 121
                    • West TX.
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                    #1189
                    Yep ass biting cold here :Devil: high mid 20's and lows of 4 :Angry:

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                    • Grossman56
                      Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                      • Jun 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Cody, Wyoming
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                      #1190
                      minus 8 and dropping here!

                      Grossman56
                      Team Gross!

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                      • F106DeltaDart
                        Scale Warbird and Chopper Pilot

                        • Feb 2015
                        • 2816
                        • Arlington, TX
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                        #1191
                        I share your pain.. it's -12 here in MN. Too cold to even take the full scale out :Silly:.

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                        • OV10
                          >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                          • Sep 2014
                          • 4264
                          • Owego, NY
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                          #1192
                          Originally posted by F106DeltaDart
                          I share your pain.. it's -12 here in MN. Too cold to even take the full scale out :Silly:.
                          Yeah........nothing like a carb ice over:Scared:.......... NOT
                          Warbird Charlie
                          HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                          • farmflyer
                            HobbySquawk Pilot

                            • Mar 2015
                            • 1164
                            • Quitaque Texas
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                            #1193
                            It's a balmy 15 here going down to 8 later today.

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                            • F106DeltaDart
                              Scale Warbird and Chopper Pilot

                              • Feb 2015
                              • 2816
                              • Arlington, TX
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                              #1194
                              Originally posted by OV10

                              Yeah........nothing like a carb ice over:Scared:.......... NOT
                              Luckily the Enstrom is fuel injected, so we're good there, but the plexiglass bubble becomes brittle at these kind of temps. Don't want to risk any cracking :saywha

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                              • jackcutrone
                                Non Fragosus

                                • Dec 2016
                                • 111
                                • Lindenhurst, IL
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                                #1195
                                Club is having its annual New Year's Day event but I am going to miss it for the first time. Supposed to be high of 4 with wind chill of -28. Think I will sit by the fire instead.

                                Jack
                                Aeromaster 35% Extra 260 (under construction), Hanger 9 40 size P51, SIG Somethin' Extra, Hanger 9 40 size Super Stick, Eflite F4U-1A Corsair, Eflite Carbon Z Yak 54, Freewing Panther F9F, 1/5 scale Piper L4 (in box), Addiction XL (in box), Parkzone Super Cub, Eflite UM's F-16, P51, Revolution & Spitfire, Durafly Das Ugly Stick, Twisted Hobbys Crack Yak & Mini Crack Yak, Align T-Rex 600, Motion RC Avanti (under construction)

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                                • Grossman56
                                  Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                                  • Jun 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Cody, Wyoming
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                                  #1196
                                  Good call Jack, I'm alternating between the basement/hangar and the PC

                                  Grossman56
                                  Team Gross!

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                                  • TiredIronGRB
                                    Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                                    • Jan 2016
                                    • 3986
                                    • Church Hill, Tennessee
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                                    #1197
                                    Day 527: Flew the F-105 in 10mph wind and 22 degrees, we have our New Year's Day Fly-In tomorrow and it's supposed to be 9 degrees.
                                    TiredIron Aviation
                                    Tired Iron Military Vehicles

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                                    • OV10
                                      >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                                      • Sep 2014
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                                      • Owego, NY
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                                      #1198
                                      Originally posted by TiredIronGRB
                                      Day 527: Flew the F-105 in 10mph wind and 22 degrees, we have our New Year's Day Fly-In tomorrow and it's supposed to be 9 degrees.
                                      I know your sweeties new nickname for ya after tomorrow ;) ..........................Numbnuts LOL
                                      Warbird Charlie
                                      HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                                      • Twowingtj
                                        If It Flys, I'll Try It

                                        • Dec 2016
                                        • 1907
                                        • Southerntier, NY
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                                        #1199
                                        Originally posted by OV10
                                        I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE it's not fun.
                                        Chatted with TJ yesterday and we both are going to forego this areas New Years Day fun fly because it is only gonna be 10.
                                        May be old but not stupid. LOL
                                        One of our local weather forecasters summed it up right. He didn't even give temps. He just said it was going to be "stupid cold":Cold:

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                                        • TiredIronGRB
                                          Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                                          • Jan 2016
                                          • 3986
                                          • Church Hill, Tennessee
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                                          #1200
                                          Originally posted by OV10

                                          I know your sweeties new nickname for ya after tomorrow ;) ..........................Numbnuts LOL
                                          It's just part of it...I don't mind the cold it's when it's cold and windy...it's hard to fly when your eyes are watering and freezing on your cheeks...but on the bright side it's only 78 days til spring:Straight-Face:
                                          TiredIron Aviation
                                          Tired Iron Military Vehicles

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