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  • Gravythe clown
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    • Mar 2019
    • 711
    • Clovis, California
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    #3481
    My SR-71, F-117 and B-2 all fly and and flow awesome. In fact I used one of my SR-71 for combat as a fox. It took almost 4 weeks for them to even touch it.
    my B-2 flew very stable and was awesome doing bomb drops with snaps. My F-117 flies fantastic and lands very smoothly.
    all three had my doing all kinds of mods to get it to a Freewing type standard. I can only imagine how well they would have flown had they been treated by freewing from the factory.

    Gravy

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    • Beeg
      So many planes. So little time!

      • Dec 2016
      • 1335
      • Texas
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      #3482
      Originally posted by JeffS69

      Tired of hearing, the sun complaint. I have a pop up tent canopy i keep my jets under when I go flying at the club. So MY jets are not in the sun for no longer than 3-4 mins at time. And considering I fly inverted half of the flight time, that's only 1.5 mins per side. :) Doubt that will be an issue for me? But hey, I guess we all could use another F16, F18 or P51 :P
      The "Sun" complaint is only the half of it. Wait till the "Will it fly off my grass airfield" crowd starts in wondering if it will come with tundra tires on their scale model that was designed to fly off of concrete/pavement/carrier deck.

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      • The Sheriff
        RC Aeronaut

        • Jan 2020
        • 48
        • Waverly, MN
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        #3483
        Pleasing the masses and the purists simultaneously is a difficult proposition.

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        • Gilatrout
          RC Pilot Addict

          • Dec 2016
          • 806
          • Albuquerque NM
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          #3484
          Originally posted by JeffS69

          Tired of hearing, the sun complaint. I have a pop up tent canopy i keep my jets under when I go flying at the club. So MY jets are not in the sun for no longer than 3-4 mins at time. And considering I fly inverted half of the flight time, that's only 1.5 mins per side. :) Doubt that will be an issue for me? But hey, I guess we all could use another F16, F18 or P51 :P
          Yeah, about that... The high desert sun will gator your wings and wrinkle your cockpit in less than a minute. My OV-10 even gatored in the box just getting here.

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          • Grossman56
            Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

            • Jun 2014
            • 7325
            • Cody, Wyoming
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            #3485
            If you shake at the thought of leaving your planes out in the sun, this may give you a heart attack, Taken at Nefi in the hot blistering sun. A lot of them have their gear retracted, I guess to get them even closer to that oven underneath them
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            P.S: The Tigercat is mine, she didn't sit there for very long!! These planes were either in the air or sitting as you see them.
            Grossman56
            Team Gross!

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            • xviper
              Hobby Squawk Regular

              • Jan 2014
              • 8747
              • Calgary, Canada
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              #3486
              I've had black foamies before. The SR71's nickname was "Wally Gater". My U2 spy plane's nickname was "GaterAid". I'm very reluctant to buy another black one. Even the dark colored ones like the green of today's popular models are bad in the sun. I keep mine under cover when not flying and yet, the short few minutes in the air causes gatoring on black and dark planes. The worst are black colored cockpits under the clear plastic. I drill holes for ventilation in most of mine now. When they invent a black paint process for foam that contain SPF1000, I might re-consider.
              Oh, I did see a black 117 that didn't gator at all. It was made from foamboard. Was never interested in one of those anyway. That one flew like crap.

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              • RRHandy
                Instructor Pilot

                • Mar 2016
                • 891
                • Lilburn GA
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                #3487
                I put popups up to put the planes under even here in the southeast, one for planes and one for humans Nice collection of planes and most are yours right.
                AMA 424553

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                • tab28682
                  RC addict

                  • Jul 2017
                  • 334
                  • Fort Worth, TX
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                  #3488
                  Originally posted by mshagg
                  Wouldn't it be more likely that those planes aren't on the radar (pardon the pun) because they probably fly like junk for a line of sight RC modeller?

                  Producing a model that falls out of the sky if you look at it wrong doesn't strike me as a great business decision, no matter how beautiful the airframe is.
                  ​​​
                  Not flying well is not the problem.

                  As others have mentioned, they fly fine. I own an LX SR-71 and LX B-2 and like how they fly. Also have flown several different F-117 models. Have not flown a B-1, but there are videos of various Versions flying and there is no reason a good flying one cannot be produced.

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                  • tab28682
                    RC addict

                    • Jul 2017
                    • 334
                    • Fort Worth, TX
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                    #3489
                    Originally posted by Valkpilot

                    In the case of the B-1, why not just the promo color, white?
                    The white prototype was a B-1A, notably different than the production B-1B.

                    My feeling is that no one wants a white one because it is not as interesting as the actual warfighter....:)

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                    • tab28682
                      RC addict

                      • Jul 2017
                      • 334
                      • Fort Worth, TX
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                      #3490
                      Originally posted by JeffS69

                      Tired of hearing, the sun complaint. I have a pop up tent canopy i keep my jets under when I go flying at the club. So MY jets are not in the sun for no longer than 3-4 mins at time. And considering I fly inverted half of the flight time, that's only 1.5 mins per side. :) Doubt that will be an issue for me? But hey, I guess we all could use another F16, F18 or P51 :P
                      When Alpha considers the sun issue a valid complaint, along with so many others, it is a valid complaint.

                      I have a separate shade for my models when at an event and still spend a significant amount of time reparking models to keep them in the shade as the day progresses.

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                      • Aros
                        Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                        • May 2013
                        • 8202
                        • Astoria, OR
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                        #3491
                        They have such things as RC covers for your models. Just sayin'
                        My YouTube RC videos:
                        https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda

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                        • Beeg
                          So many planes. So little time!

                          • Dec 2016
                          • 1335
                          • Texas
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                          #3492
                          I don't know what the exact surface temperature is that causes "gatoring" but I do keep some of my Freewing models in my cargo trailer all the time. It gets over 110F inside the trailer and so far I haven't noticed any problems on my models. For that matter, even outside I haven't seen any large area problems with any of my Freewing models other than under their cockpit canopy and it gets pretty warm down here in Houston. I do keep my models under the club canopy when not flying. Not just my foam models but my also my stick and tissue/monocote and at least cover the canopies on my fiberglass jobs as well. When I'm at a fly-in that doesn't have enough coverage or room for my pop-up I throw a sheet over my models. It's only prudent. It's my responsibility to protect and take care of my assets. EPO models require a little more protection from direct sunlight when stationary. Maybe at some point there will be a new type of foam that is suitable and cost effective to make model airplanes. If anyone knows of a cheap type of foam that is easily injection molded, strong, heat resistant, VOC resistant and paint won't peel off let someone know. Until then I have to deal with the characteristics of my EPO models.

                          With that said I think Motion RC should add a statement in the airplane manuals, on the box, or both.
                          Something like this:
                          CAUTION! "When model is not in motion minimize prolonged exposure to direct sunlight as this may cause surface deformation"

                          Everyone knows how hot the surface of a PARKED car gets in the summer time.

                          ....my two cents...

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                          • f4u ausie
                            Senior Member

                            • Dec 2019
                            • 1226
                            • Melbourne
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                            #3493
                            wow all of the above,,,,!! i was a boy when i first heard ! u can please some of the people some of the time... but NEVER all of the people all of the time ,,, oh well foam 4 me....

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                            • Gringotuerto
                              Member

                              • Feb 2017
                              • 409
                              • San Diego
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                              #3494
                              How about a plane in the shape of a flying alligator. Then any sun effect would just be adding better surface detail.

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                              • Valkpilot
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                                • Oct 2017
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                                #3495
                                Originally posted by Gringotuerto
                                How about a plane in the shape of a flying alligator. Then any sun effect would just be adding better surface detail.
                                Easiest way to do that would be a multi-rotor. But can you imagine the headlines when one of the folks on here from Florida starts flying it around their neighborhood?

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                                • Aros
                                  Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                                  • May 2013
                                  • 8202
                                  • Astoria, OR
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                                  #3496
                                  Originally posted by Gringotuerto
                                  How about a plane in the shape of a flying alligator. Then any sun effect would just be adding better surface detail.
                                  My YouTube RC videos:
                                  https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda

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                                  • Gilatrout
                                    RC Pilot Addict

                                    • Dec 2016
                                    • 806
                                    • Albuquerque NM
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                                    #3497
                                    Ronan could give us a flying crocodile

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                                    • FredGB
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                                      • Feb 2020
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                                      #3498
                                      I know this is a shot in dark but it would be good if motion made a meteor jet fighter as it has only been made by dynam and is mostly discontinued but would definitely bring something good to the market.I also think a spitfire mk 12 would be good to make as it would also be something knew.The one below is the spitfire he flew once during his time with 91 sqdrn .

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                                      • T-CAT
                                        Senior Member

                                        • Jan 2016
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                                        #3499
                                        Is it time for my Freewing Mig-29, Cougar, or BVM licensed Bandit yet, ?

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                                        • wolpertinger
                                          Pilot ??

                                          • Dec 2016
                                          • 313
                                          • Earth
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                                          #3500
                                          Originally posted by T-CAT
                                          Is it time for my Freewing Mig-29, Cougar, or BVM licensed Bandit yet, ?
                                          Agree on the F9F Cougar. (90MM please) Would be a nice addition to the line up. Also I wonder why this plane has never been in the line up

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