Project Foil Guesses?

[themudduck]

Foil will be an aluminum foil "paper airplane" with E-Flite micro RC system.

No it won't, it will be a 96" span twin 80mm Avro Vulcan! (that's my guess and I'm sticking to it) So there, Nyah!

hmmm... quite possibly, Foil could be something between those two options. And NOW we know that it's not a Venom! The clues are piling up!!

[fhhuber]

Foil will be an aluminum foil "paper airplane" with E-Flite micro RC system.

[OV10]

Sad to hear that some media tweakers that keep fumbling the football are pushing you away from the fun you established for the loyal team :(
Please reconsider Alpha ;)
Regardless.....I'm still around as you asked and am still bangin that :ov10drum;)

[Alpha]

Ha, it's not a Venom, although that plane is an awesome flyer [shameless plug]

Well said, James. I don't think the 18-24 month timeline really is heard enough... any project really could be anywhere along that process. I live in 2020, y'all. When asked many moons ago about what was coming, I dropped some active project names in random order to play along, while omitting some others that were arriving sooner. Notice that at the time I *could* have dropped the project name Bond (the F-4), which released long before Foil was slated to be released. Rather, Bond was a complete surprise to everyone. That's the point of a guessing game --things could always come from left field. I included Foil (along with Tennyson50, Five Eyes (IIIII), Hoot and other project names over the ensuing months simply because I thought they were easier and more fun/complex for the community to guess. I thought a guessing game is what people wanted, and I grew up appreciating a puzzle for the thrill of the pursuit, not the answer. I can see now that that original intent was eventually lost. Lesson learned.

After Foil's announcement, inevitably some people will fall in absolute love with it, because it really is a stunner in my book, while some people won't. And that's okay. And inevitably the next day a new post will posit "What's Next?", and the cycle will continue. And that's okay, too. And after delivery some people will trumpet Foil as being "the best EDF I've ever owned", like some have said with Regulus (A-10), Virtue (A-4), Pizza (Avanti), Machat (F-105), Paperclip (P.15), and Hoot (L-39). And that's all okay, too. I'm content whenever our creations earn their keep in good homes. There's never a single project that will appease everyone to the point that we close the business because we can't get any better. No, we're all on a thrilling cycle that is made new again and again and again.

But as for my part, I don't plan on giving any more public peeks behind my Dev curtain anytime soon. Too much gets lost in translation. The proverbial "football", as James put it. Perhaps it's easier just to let speculation run its course, independent of my input. I'll simply say, as I've always said to the question of "What's coming next?": Everything is coming, eventually, as long as we're here. But our being here is contingent on us earning customer's support with the products we sell today, not two years from now.



Carry on :)

[MANFRED]

What will be sad is after all the hype, speculation, hopes and dreams, FOIL turns out to be something mundane or odd to the point of not generating a ton of enthusiasm. I mean really, how many venoms have you seen flying at your fields compared to avantis, F-16s and F-4s?
On the other hand, Alpha has assured us that we will be pleased by several other offerings the mad aviation scientist are brewing right now.

[tclaridge]

Well, I think the excitement on FOIL is because of the "big" and the success of the A-10 and F-4. The MotionRC big EDFs are fantastic! I look forward to each an every release. And yes, it is a game, so folks should not get frustrated on timing. It is released when it is time (but hurry up, the anticipation is killing me).

[wolpertinger]

Yes this thread has not stayed its course. Perhaps in the future this guessing game should be played a little shorter (3-2 months) with weekly hints, teases and such.

It appears that all of that Foam Tac has caused our attention spans to wander and weave in and out of various topics. whether it be something shiny or a squirrel.

Me, personally, I liked the game as it gave insights into some of the demented minds and who does not like a good "who done it" or maybe a "Where's Waldo"

We have but a few more weeks until the project is released (Alpha Hint - Released in 2018) Util this release I will just relax and play along...

Apologies for not staying on thread topic, just my 2 cents so stepping off the milk crate.

[James]

"There's nothing officially implied as to when or what or why or whatever will be released. So this is all in FUN. Try to convince yourselves and others why you're right, but I won't ever actually confirm what it is until we're ready to release it. As another aside, I'll never understand why Project Foil received so much scrutiny and attention over all of the other Project names we've released... perhaps y'all just really like malleable metals, or have enduring memories of Boy Scout-grade campfire cooking methods?"

It's coming up on a year since Project Foil was announced, and we are still guessing - probably the reason for all the scrutiny. IMO the worst announcement/PR of a mystery product in my recent memory, reminiscent of the hype around Dean Kamen's Project Ginger, aka the Segway. The coy tactic will tend to make it harder to live up to speculation/expectations.

What Alpha was getting at, and he can correct me if I am wrong, is that of all the project names he's said, why has FOIL caught on this life of it's own? Why hasn't threads for the other names been created or exist? That's what he was getting at.

As for the timeline (project foil being announced a year ago). Brief history. If you ever had a chance to listen to Alpha on the RC Afterhours podcasts (I recommend them highly) you'll know that Project names were created solely for the factory so as to thwart potential classified info from being found out by competitors. Also, Alpha has spoken numerous times as to the time it takes for an aircraft idea on a napkin, to becoming a reality in customers hands and that is typically 18-24 months. So without saying where in the process he was when he dropped the project name, it could have been at any time in that process.

The project names are like he said, just supposed to be fun. Now had we said a year ago Project FOIL is XXXX without any timeline as to when it is too be released, surely that would be much worse. We would 100% admit to what you say that is was "the worst announcement/PR mystery product in recent memory" But all he said was a project name and the community has taken that football and ran with it. In the time span from when he mentioned Project Foil until today we've released some of the other projects that he mentioned and some projects he never mentioned and that will not change. We will always have projects we are working on. Alpha is basically living in 2020 releases as that's what he is starting and working on today.

It's sort of a double edge sword. If we never said anything then the people who enjoy the guessing game and fun of it would be left out, and we'd probably have numerous threads created saying something like "It's quiet at [insert brand name], are there delays/problems/issues" but if we say a few project names then the people who dislike the unknown get disgruntled, but at least people know we are working on new stuff we believe pilots everywhere will enjoy. And regardless on if we ever said anything, you can be sure we are always working on something.

I'll almost be sad when Project Foil is revealed as I wonder what Project name will take the mantle?

[tclaridge]

I think they should tease us for 90 days.

[Quickstop]

This thread degenerated a long time ago into what I'd like it to be instead of what I think it is.

[fredmdbud]

"There's nothing officially implied as to when or what or why or whatever will be released. So this is all in FUN. Try to convince yourselves and others why you're right, but I won't ever actually confirm what it is until we're ready to release it. As another aside, I'll never understand why Project Foil received so much scrutiny and attention over all of the other Project names we've released... perhaps y'all just really like malleable metals, or have enduring memories of Boy Scout-grade campfire cooking methods?"

It's coming up on a year since Project Foil was announced, and we are still guessing - probably the reason for all the scrutiny. IMO the worst announcement/PR of a mystery product in my recent memory, reminiscent of the hype around Dean Kamen's Project Ginger, aka the Segway. The coy tactic will tend to make it harder to live up to speculation/expectations.

[Valkpilot]

So....I'm house/dog sitting for my daughter, it's raining as Michael passes through and I'm bored out of my gourd. I just spent a few minutes going through the thread. Lots of guesses, some I like, some I don't. I thought I'd make a list of the ones I'd definitely buy. The rest would be maybe or absolutely not.
PLANES I'D BUY FOR SURE:
F-100, Panther, Cougar, Skyray, T-33, F-80, Mig 15, 17, 19, A-7, F-8, F-84 (straight or swept wing), Hawker Hunter.
Which planes out of the ones listed in this thread would you buy for sure?

Well here's the breakdown:
Cougar, Hunter: got them in 70 mm, awaiting parts/assembly/time
T-33, P-80: my POV, same plane, got it in 50 mm along with a Panther
F4D: Lost in "The Corridor", would like to see an upgraded 64 mm
A-7/F-8: Contemplating getting the 64 mm F-8
F-84: Probably would buy, just love those early jets
F-100: Yes, but only 70 mm or smaller
And I'd like to add to the pot the F7U Cutlass, XB-70 and Sukhoi T-4.

[Valkpilot]

Well damn..... Now it will be out of stock for sure.... As far as the EX, I think some of my girlfriends exhibit that trait too...… WOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this who you guys have had relationships with?

[Evoman]

The Il-28 had a pilot, co pilot, and a tail gunner.(Ivan, Joseph, and Boris.)

That is true, but that's IF the the "3) Guess again, it's not Russian" is not true. But I like the idea of a IL-28. ;)

[Grady.c]

I admire your admiration for both domestic and foreign jets. FW lineup really needs a Mig 15-19. The Hawker Hunter is a great jet that would sell here and extra well in Europe.
Even though I really like some of these I can't say for sure I would get them since I have limited space in my small condo. That limited space it reserved for my first EDF which at them moment would be a Hawk T1, a Viggen and some sort of twin prop which I am waiting to see how the OV-10 turns out.

As much as I like these jets this one clue disqualifies them all (7. Reindeer in flight jackets definitely comprise the flight crew.) What ever it is it is multicrew.

The Il-28 had a pilot, co pilot, and a tail gunner.(Ivan, Joseph, and Boris.)

[Evoman]

So....I'm house/dog sitting for my daughter, it's raining as Michael passes through and I'm bored out of my gourd. I just spent a few minutes going through the thread. Lots of guesses, some I like, some I don't. I thought I'd make a list of the ones I'd definitely buy. The rest would be maybe or absolutely not.
PLANES I'D BUY FOR SURE:
F-100, Panther, Cougar, Skyray, T-33, F-80, Mig 15, 17, 19, A-7, F-8, F-84 (straight or swept wing), Hawker Hunter.
Which planes out of the ones listed in this thread would you buy for sure?

I admire your admiration for both domestic and foreign jets. FW lineup really needs a Mig 15-19. The Hawker Hunter is a great jet that would sell here and extra well in Europe.
Even though I really like some of these I can't say for sure I would get them since I have limited space in my small condo. That limited space it reserved for my first EDF which at them moment would be a Hawk T1, a Viggen and some sort of twin prop which I am waiting to see how the OV-10 turns out.

As much as I like these jets this one clue disqualifies them all (7. Reindeer in flight jackets definitely comprise the flight crew.) What ever it is it is multicrew.

[Quickstop]

So....I'm house/dog sitting for my daughter, it's raining as Michael passes through and I'm bored out of my gourd. I just spent a few minutes going through the thread. Lots of guesses, some I like, some I don't. I thought I'd make a list of the ones I'd definitely buy. The rest would be maybe or absolutely not.
PLANES I'D BUY FOR SURE:
F-100, Panther, Cougar, Skyray, T-33, F-80, Mig 15, 17, 19, A-7, F-8, F-84 (straight or swept wing), Hawker Hunter.
Which planes out of the ones listed in this thread would you buy for sure?

Sir, you have good taste.

[davecee]

So....I'm house/dog sitting for my daughter, it's raining as Michael passes through and I'm bored out of my gourd. I just spent a few minutes going through the thread. Lots of guesses, some I like, some I don't. I thought I'd make a list of the ones I'd definitely buy. The rest would be maybe or absolutely not.
PLANES I'D BUY FOR SURE:
F-100, Panther, Cougar, Skyray, T-33, F-80, Mig 15, 17, 19, A-7, F-8, F-84 (straight or swept wing), Hawker Hunter.
Which planes out of the ones listed in this thread would you buy for sure?

[Hardway]

I would buy that.

More fun than a GeeBee…… :Cool:

[Hardway]

BTW as far as my Ex goes, I shoulda known better when she introduced herself to me as 'Maleficent'. Best, LB[/QUOTE]

HA!!!! You think??? Seems legit to me..... HA!!!