Project Foil Guesses?

[tclaridge]

I think FOIL is the premier of the new FreeWing 110mm EDF that runs on 12S so we can use our current 6S batteries in series. It will include super scale jets only previously available to the turbine guys, with speeds up to 150 mph and size up to 15 lbs aircraft. Includes a painted and 3D printed cockpit, and after burner LED ring. I can't wait!

[rifleman_btx]

^ yes! Absolutely!

[Valkpilot]

70 mm T-33, F-106, or XB-70.

[JamesonC]

F-22, F-18C, and Mig-29 all in 80mm EDF or larger....that’s what I want first. Ha-ha

YES, YES, and sure, why not! :)

[T-CAT]

F-22, F-18C, and Mig-29 all in 80mm EDF or larger....that’s what I want first. Ha-ha

[JamesonC]

I had forgotten about that post from Tom. But, now really excited to know that it appears there will be TWO announcements pretty soon and hopefully one of them is FOIL!!! :f18

[RCjetdude]

It was over on the L-39 thread.

https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc-airplanes/jets-and-edfs/149827-official-freewing-80mm-edf-l-39-albatros-thread?p=150701#post150701

[andrew_flyguy]

Tom put the kibosh on that after determining it was not the right time.

I must've missed that part. No worries either way - I'm just really excited about what may be just over the horizon (as well as what's already out there) :)

[RCjetdude]

Tom put the kibosh on that after determining it was not the right time.

[andrew_flyguy]

I believe the Red Avanti was counted as a new release as well.

I'll have to dig it up, but the quote was from Tom (MotionRC) and the Red Avanti was mentioned as "new paint scheme of an already existing model" and I'm paraphrasing from memory here: "a new model to be announced in the next couple weeks (L-39), and if all pans out 2 new models announced at Fall Nall (Grey F-4 may have been one)"

[JamesonC]

Weren't there supposed to be 2 announcements at Nall? The L-39 was in the weeks before Nall and the new paint scheme on the F-4 I assume counts as one of the new releases... but what about the other?

I believe the Red Avanti was counted as a new release as well.

[andrew_flyguy]

Weren't there supposed to be 2 announcements at Nall? The L-39 was in the weeks before Nall and the new paint scheme on the F-4 I assume counts as one of the new releases... but what about the other?

[Valkpilot]

An THAT gentlemen, is the first jet to have 'fly by wire' back in the 50's. This was when the Americans were flying the F-86. First to have an internal weapons system as well as artificial 'feel' to the controls, so many firsts, BTW, supersonic as well. But, Canada wasn't supposed to have the first anything in the aerospace industry so politics stepped in and they were all chopped up...……...except for one...………...so the legend goes...…….

Pick up "Storms of Controversy" by Palmiro Campagna, or watch the movie on the CF 105 starring Dan Ackroyd.



Grossman56

The Dan Ackroyd movie is on Youtube:

[Valkpilot]

Its not silver......
Happy Sunday !

You forgot one:

[Valkpilot]

I believe these planes were cancelled in favor of purchasing aircraft from American companies - hardly a handout from "Uncle Sugar", especially when it cost them their own domestic industries, and some technologies that were at the time ahead of American designs.

But it's cheaper to either buy existing airplanes or share the costs of R&D(with the American taxpayer footing the larger part of the bill) than to develop, manufacture, and establish the logistics for your own aircraft.
And the people in charge at the time were more concerned with creating social programs, and in the case of the British Minister of Defense believed that manned aircraft were obsolescent in view of missiles and MAD. And as mentioned earlier, in Canada, the feud between the PM and the President of AVRO Canada. So instead of the Arrow, Canada bought BOMARC and F-101 Voodoos, and Britain initially was going to get F-111s but opted instead for F-4 Phantom IIs and Bristol Bucaneers. And the money saved went into social programs, which gets the people in-charge re-elected, at their own peril.

[fredmdbud]

It seems that after Korea, most of the "free world" decided to let "Uncle Sugar" foot the bill for their defense.

I believe these planes were cancelled in favor of purchasing aircraft from American companies - hardly a handout from "Uncle Sugar", especially when it cost them their own domestic industries, and some technologies that were at the time ahead of American designs.

[Valkpilot]

Yes, sad story the way the Arrow went down. The TSR-2 is another bird on that list. Politics was more deadly than any SAM.

It seems that after Korea, most of the "free world" decided to let "Uncle Sugar" foot the bill for their defense.

[Pete Lane]

Its not silver......
Happy Sunday !

[Alpha]

Yes, sad story the way the Arrow went down. The TSR-2 is another bird on that list. Politics was more deadly than any SAM.

[Valkpilot]

Something about using tubes for fly by wire led to having an unreliable system for an airplane that needed to pull + and - G in combat maneuvers...

Its just not good when the tubes eject from the sockets.

Actually, the Arrow was killed because of a feud between the new Canadian Prime Minister, John Diefenbaker, and AVRO Canada's President. It was soo bad that the PM, stating that there was a Soviet mole at AVRO that he ordered EVERYTHING, from completed aircraft, to tools and dies, and even blueprints destroyed.