Freewing Su-35 Twin 70mm 12 blade

[JeremySean]

Do you guys think applying a coat of minwax on this jet will stiffen up the airframe? Or is it even worth it?

[Airguardian]

[masterssls1]

My lil' tip about weathering. Don't use black for panel lines, but just a darker grey.
Ideally you do it as pre-shading, and then overspray with a lighter grey tone. You can then control the final result by adding more or less over-spray.

thanks for the tip , it seams like a nice Technic to practice next time.

I'm from Barcelona so I know Gaudi ;)

you should be mentioning sagrada familia ! :)

[Airguardian]

I wonder if it will be finished by 2026 ?

Doubt it very much!
Apparently the pandemic delayed things... but anyway, it's finally advancing at a decent pace so maybe not that far off after all :)

[SanExup]

And ruin decades of anticipation?

[paulrkytek]

My lil' tip about weathering. Don't use black for panel lines, but just a darker grey.
Ideally you do it as pre-shading, and then overspray with a lighter grey tone. You can then control the final result by adding more or less over-spray.



I'm from Barcelona so I know Gaudi ;)

Its almost 20 years since I took my son to see Casa Mila ( great balconies ) and La Sagrada Familia, I wonder if it will be finished by 2026 ?

[Airguardian]

Certainly not, but fine reference...

[kallend]

I'm from Barcelona so I know Gaudi ;)

Is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kqyev46qyI&ab_channel=rymndjesus

[Airguardian]

My lil' tip about weathering. Don't use black for panel lines, but just a darker grey.
Ideally you do it as pre-shading, and then overspray with a lighter grey tone. You can then control the final result by adding more or less over-spray.

well, is everyone here is an architect ? because when i'm talking to my friends about those people they dont know what the h*ll i'm talking about :D
i think it will all come to that its a personal preference . i appreciate minimalism as much as i appreciate details ,but it depends on the subject

I'm from Barcelona so I know Gaudi ;)

[paulrkytek]

well, is everyone here is an architect ? because when i'm talking to my friends about those people they dont know what the h*ll i'm talking about :D
i think it will all come to that its a personal preference . i appreciate minimalism as much as i appreciate details ,but it depends on the subject

Exactly. Its whatever floats your boat or gets you flying.

[masterssls1]

Less is more but then Gaudi and Frank Lloyd Wright are more complex and interesting to look at so I suppose it depends on what you want to achieve and how you want to see it. My paint schemes become more complex and interesting in direct proportion to the number of times I inadvertently modify the shape of the model .

well, is everyone here is an architect ? because when i'm talking to my friends about those people they dont know what the h*ll i'm talking about :D
i think it will all come to that its a personal preference . i appreciate minimalism as much as i appreciate details ,but it depends on the subject

[paulrkytek]

its funny u should say that , i know who said less is more!


looool. :D thanks for your feedback anyways

Less is more but then Gaudi and Frank Lloyd Wright are more complex and interesting to look at so I suppose it depends on what you want to achieve and how you want to see it. My paint schemes become more complex and interesting in direct proportion to the number of times I inadvertently modify the shape of the model .

[masterssls1]

"Less is more" - Ludwig Mies van der Rohe.

its funny u should say that , i know who said less is more!

Overdone panel lines shout out "I am just a toy".

looool. :D thanks for your feedback anyways

[kallend]

"Less is more" - Ludwig Mies van der Rohe.

Overdone panel lines shout out "I am just a toy".

[masterssls1]

Don't overdo it. Subtle is better than overdone. Most real planes, even military, are well maintained. Take a look at a real one, the panel lines are hardly visible except over hatches and inspection plates.

yes that u said is true i dont wanna over do it and i keep a folder with a few detailed pictures of the real jet as a reference when i work on it but since the real once are big and you can easily see some details i try to exaggerate a bit , here is some from what i have done so far

[kallend]

thanks man i'm working on the weathering and metal sheets effects now

Don't overdo it. Subtle is better than overdone. Most real planes, even military, are well maintained. Take a look at a real one, the panel lines are hardly visible except over hatches and inspection plates.

[masterssls1]

Congrats on the successful maiden !

A fine setup, similar to what I did on mine when I was running 8ch a lifetime ago! ;)

BTW, great job on the paint! :D

thanks man i'm working on the weathering and metal sheets effects now

Yeah, pitch can definitely be a bitch on this jet if badly set up!

hahahaha u got it right into place ))

Didn't you check for nozzle alignment BEFORE the flight??

i did but since i painted it before checking the nozzles , i had hard time seeing the marks ( it was covered by paint )

[Airguardian]

Congrats on the successful maiden !

A fine setup, similar to what I did on mine when I was running 8ch a lifetime ago! ;)

BTW, great job on the paint! :D

And yeah, maidening with CG at 170mm is a bit extreme... better to start at 160 and slowly work and adjust from there.
When the CG is very aft, you need to push the nose a bit down when the jet is flying slow, but it's not really tail heavy.
This is normal and to be expected. ;)

- elevator for bitch
[...]
the flight : started with smooth takeoff then the plane suddenly bitched down .

Yeah, pitch can definitely be a bitch on this jet if badly set up!

then i decided to give the plane a full check up and found out the TV nozzles was abit towards down so here is what i did before the re maiden flight :-
- adjust the TV nozzle to more centered location , rudder wise and bitch wise

Didn't you check for nozzle alignment BEFORE the flight??
As mentioned, the Su-35 usually asks for a little bit of pitch-up trim built in the nozzles to fly level.
And did you remember to separate the nozzles from the trim function so that trimming in flight doesn't change thrustline?

i loved how it flies a

It's a beast of a jet, time to enjoy her! :D

i have to thank everyone who told me there experience with this plane
@Airguardian thanks for insisting to say that i have to use expo it saved my plane life a few times during the first maiden THANK YOU

Glad you heeded my call on that one...

Big throws and no expo is a big no-no for this aircraft! ;)

[masterssls1]

here is the first flight i had with the SU-35 .. for analysis superposes , as i said and idiot flying !!!😐

[masterssls1]

oh i forgot to mentioned my setup .. it was as following :-
1- Throttle ( throttle channel)
2- Ailerons Y ( aliron channel)
3- Right Taileron ( elevator channel )
4- Rudders + TV Yaw + Wheel Steering ( rudder channel ) so yaw TV is working all the time
5- Landing Gear ( gear channel )
6-Left Taileron ( AUX1 channel )
7- Left TV ( AUX2 channel )
8- Right TV ( AUX3 channel )

mixes :
1- Right Taileron to left Taileron ( for elevator control )
2- aileron to right raileron
3- aileron to left raileron
4- alierons to right TV
5- alierons to left TV
6- right talieron to right TV
7- right aileron to left TV

i hope i didn't forget something here