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I have both and I would say this is a very accurate description, not that the A-4 is bad but the L-39 is better in all respects.
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Have to agree with this, they both fly great but the L-39 just flies better, it would make and excellent trainer for sure or if you want to sharpen your flying skills with some low inverted passes, which it does nicely and it does have great vertical to, all around a very well designed EDF. If only it came in a couple of livery choices....:Cool:Originally posted by crxmanpat View PostI own both, and they both fly great. However, with it's long straight wing, the L-39 feels more "locked in" and for me has been much easier to land. The L-39 also seems to be a little slicker in the air, and has some pretty good vertical performance. I love them both, but the L-39 seems easier to fly.
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I would go so far as to say the L-39 would be a good first EDF for anyone moving into them from prop jobs. It's that stable.
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Great, thanks a lot for your feedback..pretty much what I expected :Cool:. I love the A4 but by judging of the flight vids the L39 seems indeed a piece of cake to fly..
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I own both, and they both fly great. However, with it's long straight wing, the L-39 feels more "locked in" and for me has been much easier to land. The L-39 also seems to be a little slicker in the air, and has some pretty good vertical performance. I love them both, but the L-39 seems easier to fly.
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Cri cri cri...the L39 has taken all the attention now LOL. Can anyone who owns both tell us how the L39 feels compared to the A4?
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Oh dear sorry to hear that mate. I would love for FW to release a 120mm sizes one.. Anyway if I were to crash my A4 I would also buy a new one..no hesitations!
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Time order a Arf+. Lost my A4 yesterday. I mean really lost her. Something went amiss but she got away from and ended up in Grapevine Lake. A boater who was an former rc guy found the debris floating. Brought her to the field this morning. I had given up hope. Really just wanted to salvage the electrics and lipo. All good. Fuse is not worth saving. Arf + is relatively inexpensive.
I like the Scooter so much I just had to have another.
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If it was a single receiver failing I would send it in or call horizon. I do think mine was an extraordinary circumstance. But dead channels could happen with any brand. Also check the extensions/y-harness as I had what I thought was a dead servo in my t28 that turned out to be a bad extension failing at the receiver plug.
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Are you serious?Originally posted by rifleman_btx View PostI did have to go from spektrum to frsky because after 3 planes went down only 200 yards out with ar8000 dsmx recievers I have lost all confidence in them.
You got me thinking....
Especially since the crash of my beautiful E-Flite P47D Razorback.
Right now post crash investigation is leaning towards Spectrum RX failure of the Flap and Aileron channels.
Replaced those servo's with new ones and still dead.
Time to ditch Spektrum?
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Unless horizon is in the business of selling knockoffs of their own products, then yeah I'm sure.
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rifleman.. are u sure your ar8000's were the real thing or some of the hundreds of knockoffs sold on ebay I bought one from ebay buy threw it away before it could crash my plane
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A far as a farmer, in my earlier days of model aviation, I was know to farm a few planes... Plant them nose-first into the nearest field and hope for rain!!!! LOL You guys are all awesome! Many blessings. Back to work on the B-17G. Glassing the flaps before bed tonight...
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Hey!!! I didn't mean for the numbers to go "HEY!! LOOK AT ME" Sorry. I just put them out there to give some perspective to my opinion on what seems to have worked very well over the entire fleet... Look out TI, when I build my shop we can do a head to head on what we own!!!! LOL :P
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I hope I never have 93 planes, : (. That's just too many. You must be a farmer, and own an nice big barn. LOL D**m Hardway that a lot of planes! I have about 25, half in boxes, I'm struggling with places to put them as it is.Originally posted by Hardway View Post
To be fair, the Lemon receivers that went nuts with my neighbor's planes were NOT stabilized (internal gyro) so that is data for everyone to consider... And certainly they were not distributed under the Admiral brand from Motion!
Just for a point of reference, when I say "a lot" of airplanes, that is really subjective to most fliers... I have 93 that are flight ready at this time. All of them have a Spektrum receiver and 87 of them have A3-L gyros. Two have A3's and the remainder have none... Most of the lost birds I read about here sound like a brown-out, not loss of signal... (Barring mechanical failure, that is... servo gears, wire break, loose connections, standard stuff...)
Best Regards
Woody
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And we alI thought TI was the body count king. ;)Originally posted by Hardway View Post
To be fair, the Lemon receivers that went nuts with my neighbor's planes were NOT stabilized (internal gyro) so that is data for everyone to consider... And certainly they were not distributed under the Admiral brand from Motion!
Just for a point of reference, when I say "a lot" of airplanes, that is really subjective to most fliers... I have 93 that are flight ready at this time. All of them have a Spektrum receiver and 87 of them have A3-L gyros. Two have A3's and the remainder have none... Most of the lost birds I read about here sound like a brown-out, not loss of signal... (Barring mechanical failure, that is... servo gears, wire break, loose connections, standard stuff...)
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Thank for the response mate. I just realized you may have planes that need more than 6 channels. For this the Admiral wouldn't work. To be honest, I really do a lot of testing prior to taking a new build up. Only bad radios I ever actually had were some Spektrum's I purchased early on, on ebay. I've sense learned this is a Bozo No No. I've only been back about a year. I took a look at the Frsky's yesterday. There receivers look great, and their price point looks really good. Love the look of the transmitters too. The problem I'm having with ever switching is I've had nothing but good luck with the DS9 and Admiral receivers. Yea it's a pretty common radio but they work really good, no complaints. I've gotten use to setting it up in a pretty timely manner, with excellent results. To be honest, I'm still learning the capabilities of the DS9, and I don't have to impress anyone but myself.Originally posted by Hardway View Post
I have always used Spektrum... My neighbor used a few Lemon and I have seen them crash first-hand... I know Motion has done a lot of research and development with Lemon to sell the Admiral brand, so I would trust them... However, I have a lot of airplanes and they almost all have the A3-L or A3 gyros with Spektrum receivers. I have only lost one early on and that was due to a brown out from low BEC voltage from the ESC. So now, I use an external BEC from CC on any plane with more than 4 channels. 10 amp on the little guys, and 20 amp Pro on all the EDF's... The Eflight birds have the AS3X receivers if they come that way... It all just works well, for me...
One last thing the Admiral's are really small. Makes it easy to find a place to put them. The Spektrum AS636 is over twice as big,(almost all of the E-flight & parkzone AS3X planes use the AS636) and most of the additional size is simply much bigger plastic case. The bail out feature is really important to me. I don't see as well as I use too, and loosing orientation is always a worry for me, especially in scale EDF's. I guess I just need the dummy mode fall back to use every option possible to ensure the preservation of my planes. It won't always help, but it could.
I think your wiring looks great.
Best Regards
Woody
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