Official FlightLine RC 2000mm B-24D/J Liberator Thread

[rifleman_btx]

Agreed!

[Sky Wolf]

YES PLEEEAAASSSEI

And a B-29 while you're at it!

[Hugh Wiedman]

I was looking for a comparable silver B-17, but didn't really like the Hobby King version as much as my Olive B-24, so I bought the silver B-24 instead since I absolutely loved flying the Olive one. With a little extra paint and Callie's decals, I think I like the silver one better than my Olive. But having both sure gets the attention at the field, especially since both have the 3D cockpits and top and front turrets hooked up to servos. Put the Mr. RC sound with the multi-engine pack in this one as well and the suspension struts.

Flightline, please make a large B-17 using the same equipment as the B-24!!!

[radfordc]

Cross controlling is normally used in side-slips to control bank angle while angling the nose well off to the side vs line of travel. The wing "behind" the fuselage is blanketed by turbulence and highly likely to stall. Its a great way to lose altitude and airspeed at the same time. Its also a great way to put the airplane into a spin if you lose too much airspeed.
Typically a technique used on landing approach, you have ZERO room for recovery if it spins.

It is very difficult to spin an airplane while slipping....nearly impossible: http://www.askacfi.com/5189/forward-...-stallspin.htm

Skids are completely different and you are very likely to enter a spin while skidding. Almost all stall/spin accidents are caused by in inadvertent skid.

http://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/slip-skid-stall/

[TiredIronGRB]

Hey Guys,

I'd like to write a brief report about flying the B-24 with 3-cell packs. (everything on my model is stock by the way, I have Witchcraft)

I was flying mine yesterday afternoon, and started with the 4-cell 3600's that I usually use. As many of you know, the plane is a rocket ship. It will leap of the ground in about 10 feet and has absolute unlimited vertical. Of course that kind of performance is similar to my OS.45-powered stunt plane, but is a little (slightly) uncharacteristic for a bomber. To each his own - for me, it just doesn't seem right flying this plane at speeds that for a full-size Liberator, would be supersonic. So I tool around at low power and that makes me happy. Its nice to have that extra burst when you want it, and say to my friends "hey watch this" and watch their mouths drop.

So I've been wanting to try a 3-cell pack but I was waiting to gain some flight time (and some good weather) before doing that, and yesterday was the day. I used 3-cell Admiral 3600's. One placed in the tray all the way forward, the other one was on top and all the way up front to the foam bulkhead - which placed it out of reach of the strap, but the canopy locked it in nicely (the strap held the wires). I had to push the battery forward like that in order for the model to balance. ITs important of course, with smaller batteries that was my main concern. But everything checked out fine and my hypothesis was that the model wouldn't need as much power, since it would be lighter. Less power draw = longer flights. (I didn't weigh it).

Well I'm very pleased to report that it flew extremely well. I was surprised that with the 3-cell packs it still had plenty of power for takeoff, in fact it took off with authority (but somewhat more realistically). And I was able to cruise around at less than 1/2 throttle. The model still flew around at a pretty good clip - it wasn't like it was just plodding along - the only thing that was missing was that it wouldn't go vertical. At full power it would climb at a nice angle, say 45 degrees, but eventually would lose steam. I was able to loop from level flight without any problem at all (it did not need full power to do that). The best part was the landing, when I came in (full flaps on final) I was able to hold the nose WAY up and when it touched down, it started flying again. It was definitely "light on its feet". What a *****cat.

After landing, the batteries were at 3.8 volts per cell - that was a after a 5-minute flight, and its the exact same time and results as I got from my 4-cell pack. (I could fly longer I am sure, I just haven't pushed it yet)

I would encourage everyone strongly that you do NOT have to use 4-cell packs in this plane, its just not necessary. You can save some money and enjoy a terrific flying experience with 3-cell packs. The only thing you can't do is fly "3D style" or whatever you want to call it when you fly this plane like an Extra 330. Maybe with larger 3-cell packs (like a 5000mah) you could fly for a lot longer. Have fun, with whatever you decide to do!

Very true, 3S works great and I even cut my throttle range down to 80% so as to not sling a prop blade loose.

[themudduck]

Hey Guys,

I'd like to write a brief report about flying the B-24 with 3-cell packs. (everything on my model is stock by the way, I have Witchcraft)

I was flying mine yesterday afternoon, and started with the 4-cell 3600's that I usually use. As many of you know, the plane is a rocket ship. It will leap of the ground in about 10 feet and has absolute unlimited vertical. Of course that kind of performance is similar to my OS.45-powered stunt plane, but is a little (slightly) uncharacteristic for a bomber. To each his own - for me, it just doesn't seem right flying this plane at speeds that for a full-size Liberator, would be supersonic. So I tool around at low power and that makes me happy. Its nice to have that extra burst when you want it, and say to my friends "hey watch this" and watch their mouths drop.

So I've been wanting to try a 3-cell pack but I was waiting to gain some flight time (and some good weather) before doing that, and yesterday was the day. I used 3-cell Admiral 3600's. One placed in the tray all the way forward, the other one was on top and all the way up front to the foam bulkhead - which placed it out of reach of the strap, but the canopy locked it in nicely (the strap held the wires). I had to push the battery forward like that in order for the model to balance. Its very important to get the balance correct of course, with using smaller batteries that was my main concern. But everything checked out fine and my hypothesis was that the model wouldn't need as much power, since it would be lighter. Less power draw = longer flights. (I didn't weigh it).

Well I'm very pleased to report that it flew extremely well. I was surprised that with the 3-cell packs it still had plenty of power for takeoff, in fact it took off with authority (but somewhat more realistically). And I was able to cruise around at less than 1/2 throttle. The model still flew around at a pretty good clip - it wasn't like it was just plodding along - the only thing that was missing was that it wouldn't go vertical. At full power it would climb at a nice angle, say 45 degrees, but eventually would lose steam. I was able to loop from level flight without any problem at all (it did not need full power to do that). The best part was the landing, when I came in (full flaps on final) I was able to hold the nose WAY up and when it touched down, it started flying again. It was definitely "light on its feet". What a *****cat.

After landing, the batteries were at 3.8 volts per cell - that was a after a 5-minute flight, and its the exact same time and results as I got from my 4-cell pack. (I could fly longer I am sure, I just haven't pushed it yet)

I would encourage everyone strongly that you do NOT have to use 4-cell packs in this plane, its just not necessary. You can save some money and enjoy a terrific flying experience with 3-cell packs. The only thing you can't do is fly "3D style" or whatever you want to call it when you fly this plane like an Extra 330. Maybe with larger 3-cell packs (like a 5000mah) you could fly for a lot longer. Have fun, with whatever you decide to do!

[TiredIronGRB]

Day 652: Got in some flights on "The Dragon and His Tail" this morning...

[rifleman_btx]

Awesome

[Hardway]

:Cool:Great job Wesnc and mirored !

[mirored]

Ready to maiden downunder :)

Looking great. Have fun!

[mirored]

Two to go to Joe Nall in a week. Hope to see others there.

[Wesnc]

Ready to maiden downunder :)

[themudduck]

Willow Run is just east of Detroit.

The Yankee Air Museum is based at Willow Run, and during the past few years they worked to save part of the original bomber plant to become their new museum. The "Thunder over Michigan" air show is held there each year in late August and is a fantastic warbird airshow. Each year they have a "theme" and they also have a "ground war" reenactment with tanks and infantry (with air support!). Several years ago they brought in ALL of the flyable B-17's (except Sally B which is in England) and had them all running on the ramp at the same time. B-24 "Diamond Lil" did a knife-edge display pass past the entire line. I'll never forget it.

[SoLongSidekick]

The dude shown was in the nose turret when it got a little kiss on the cheek.

[dahawk]

My Dad was in one of the first B-24 groups to head over. After basic at Sheppard Field in Wichita Falls, he was sent to the Consolidated factory in San Diego. Then over on the Queen Mary to Hartwick with the 93rd Heavy Bombardment Group / 409th Bomb Squadron( Ted’s Traveling Circus). Hartwick to Libya back to Hartwick then back to Tunesia ( Polesti raid launch point) then back to Hartwick. He was a crew chief, essentially an A&P in today’s vernacular.

I’m a member of the reunion group. It’s even on Facebook. One of the few B-24 reunion grouos out there. Only a few actual WW-2 guys remaining but is continued on with surviving family members.

Ford was a huge contributor amongst the 3 plants making the Lib. Love that vid. Over 18,000 made in total , far exceeding the B-17 production. Just didn’t get the same press as most of the B-17 squadrons were based in S England and the press was too lazy to travel North.

[OV10]

Wanted to share something with all you lovers of the Libby.
I learned of this via an email from my dad..............here's an excerpt.
This is one of the best and most informative clips about a great American accomplishment, thanks to the Ford Motor Company during WWII.
A Ford Airplane! AMAZING!
Production began here 6 months BEFORE Pearl Harbour! Henry Ford was determined that he could mass
produce bombers just as he had with cars, so he built the Willow Run assembly plant and proved it.
This was the world's largest building under one roof at the time. This film will absolutely blow you away,
one B-24 every 55 minutes! Ford had its own pilots to test them. And no recalls!
ADOLF HITLER HAD NO IDEA THE U.S. WAS CAPABLE OF THIS KIND OF THING.
B-24 Liberator Willow Run Assembly Plant - YouTube

[dahawk]

Kevin,

Really surprised at your comment. I’ve been a customer of Motion RC since their early beginnings and have never had a bad experience. Over 20 planes purchased. In fact, I consider MRC my LHS. Great product line-up and unmatched service & support.

First time in years I’ve heard a negative comment about MRC. What part(s) do you need ?

Love my Liberator, Yak-130, BAE Hawk, A6, A4, A10, F5,F18, F16, P-51 Voodoo, Mossy, P-51 BBD, QQ, F105. F7F,F22, F35, etc.

Good luck to ya


Hawk

[Boots Whirlygig]

Hey Kevin, welcome to the squawk! Have you read any of the official b-24 postings, or any postings? There are great fellow hobbyists on these forums, and we help each other out when parts or advice are requested. It really is remarkable! Please introduce yourself. And tell us what specific parts you need. The manufacturer sometimes has trouble meeting the demand, and they took a long holiday, me thinks.

[MikeT]

Anyone want a B 24 CHEAP. I'm done with it and motion rc. They really suck with their parts inventory. Had my bomber for month and flew it exactly twice. What a bush league company.

Wow 1st post. Your sediments are not the norm with Motion. Guess you can't please everyone.

Mike

[Hardway]

Roger that. How much?? I have a ton of parts...And have not used one of them yet... thanks.