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  • ryramZ
    Pilot Ryan

    • Dec 2012
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    #21
    Originally posted by Old_Man
    Hi Warbird Charlie, according to Motion RC, yes, it will do that and I just spoke with them to confirm it. Thanks. I asked several times to make sure that I was stating correctly what I meant. I hope there was no confusion on what I was saying to the representative.
    Who did you talk to? The gyro has a recovery mode, it's not an auto level.

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    • ryramZ
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      #22
      Please watch this video which displays the gyro and what it does.

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      • ryramZ
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        #23
        And this one to see the setup and install. Lots of good info

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        • OV10
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          • Sep 2014
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          #24
          I reluctantly :Thinking:accepted Old_Man's comment that Motion CS indicated it had auto-level.
          So my original input on post#18 was correct. :Smug:
          I trust what you say Ryan......;)
          Warbird Charlie
          HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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          • Old_Man
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ryan@Motion/ryramZ

            Who did you talk to? The gyro has a recovery mode, it's not an auto level.
            Sad to see that Warbird Charlie had RELUCTANTLY accepted comments.

            I spoke to BRAD more than one time on this topic.

            He informed me that the capability is similar to that of the SAFE TECHNOLOGY and that if the sticks are left alone the plane will go to straight and level.

            Is Brad misinformed Ryan?

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            • ryramZ
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              #26
              Originally posted by Old_Man

              Sad to see that Warbird Charlie had RELUCTANTLY accepted comments.

              I spoke to BRAD more than one time on this topic.

              He informed me that the capability is similar to that of the SAFE TECHNOLOGY and that if the sticks are left alone the plane will go to straight and level.

              Is Brad misinformed Ryan?
              The plane will act like any other plane if you let off the sticks, it will need you to get back on the sticks. The only way it would self level is if you were in recovery mode and you continually held down the bind button/recovery button. In which case the plane would be hard to fly because it will be trying to stay level. That is because it's a recovery function not a bank limiting training aid. This is only with recovery function being activated.

              similar but different safe has beginner, intermediate and experienced modes as well as some of the self leveling features. Also when you hit the panic button the plane recovers.

              ours is a stabilizer that can easily be set to have the desired gain you want. With ours you must hold the recovery button down until you achieve the desired result. This is because the rx is not designed for any particular plane. The end user is the one who determines when the desired result has been reached.

              if I'm inverted and I just tap the recovery button it will only begin to recover. I must hold it down until the plane has righted itself, as demonstrated in the video.

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              • Old_Man
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                #27
                Ryan, I now see some comments stating that the receiver is essentially a "copy" of the LemonPlus but with changes to the firmware. And, those changes which have simplified things may have diminished the full capability for auto-leveling although it is still there. I am not sure if the receiver is what I need, or not, at this point. Maybe you can communicate with Brad and let me know what is what? Would like to use your product if it will satisfy the mission required. I just saw your response above while writing this most recent comment. I will filter your statements. And thank you for the input.

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                • Old_Man
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ryan@Motion/ryramZ

                  The plane will act like any other plane if you let off the sticks, it will need you to get back on the sticks. The only way it would self level is if you were in recovery mode and you continually held down the bind button/recovery button. In which case the plane would be hard to fly because it will be trying to stay level. That is because it's a recovery function not a bank limiting training aid. This is only with recovery function being activated.

                  similar but different safe has beginner, intermediate and experienced modes as well as some of the self leveling features. Also when you hit the panic button the plane recovers.

                  ours is a stabilizer that can easily be set to have the desired gain you want. With ours you must hold the recovery button down until you achieve the desired result. This is because the rx is not designed for any particular plane. The end user is the one who determines when the desired result has been reached.

                  if I'm inverted and I just tap the recovery button it will only begin to recover. I must hold it down until the plane has righted itself, as demonstrated in the video.
                  OK, thank you for comments above. I believe that I understand. It might be helpful to ask, as well, what does the LemonPlus do that the Admiral does not? This might help also to more clearly identify the differences.

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                  • OV10
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Old_Man

                    Sad to see that Warbird Charlie had RELUCTANTLY accepted comments.
                    Is there a reason for the capitalization of reluctantly ?
                    No need to be sad..........the reluctance was because I do know a lot about this technology but I don't profess to know it all thus the reason for saying I learned something while taking your word on it.;)
                    Warbird Charlie
                    HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                    • BrandonTW82
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                      • Dec 2017
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                      #30
                      Does anyone know if this rx has the failsafe on it like some of the others?

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                      • DPF4052
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                        #31
                        Anyone out there have experience setting up the Admiral RX600SP with a Spektrum DX7s? If so , I'd like some info on how to set the mixes to turn stability on/off. I can't seem to find that info in the documentation for the RX or for the DX7s

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                        • Joebabe
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                          #32
                          Buy the lemon plus !
                          lemon can program level. This Admiral is set , you have to mount it level. It dives like crazy . I was told to mount it with the back up 10 degrees. Well it still dives bit eventually will get level. I've tried beginner and advanced ( green / blue )
                          This doesn't hold a candle to a safe receiver .

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                          • BrandonTW82
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                            #33
                            I have the Lemon 7 channel plus and a DX 8 G2. I have been told by all my peers to get rid of it and get a Spektrum receiver. I don't want to get rid of it. I'm sure it work good but, am skeptical considering there are no instructions easily accessible, especially when setting up a warbird.

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                            • doctormike
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                              #34
                              What is needed to set up a RX600SP for a flying wing? Is it all done in the radio (DX6) or does the receiver need a set up also? Doc

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                              • xviper
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                                • Jan 2014
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                                #35
                                Originally posted by BrandonTW82
                                I have the Lemon 7 channel plus and a DX 8 G2. I have been told by all my peers to get rid of it and get a Spektrum receiver. I don't want to get rid of it. I'm sure it work good but, am skeptical considering there are no instructions easily accessible, especially when setting up a warbird.
                                I think your "peers" are not very well informed as to how the Lemon product works. They probably are turning their noses up at the name "Lemon". Many of us have been using Lemon products for years and they have proven to be as good if not better than Spektrum RXs. There is a 12 page instruction manual that you can download for that RX.

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                                • xviper
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by doctormike
                                  What is needed to set up a RX600SP for a flying wing? Is it all done in the radio (DX6) or does the receiver need a set up also? Doc
                                  I believe it's all done in the RX. The TX is set up for "normal" wing.

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                                  • CPD
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                                    #37
                                    I read a post here a while ago that said instead of using a MIX on a DX8G2, you could assign a toggle switch to GER, and program it for 100% and -105%, where the 0 position in combo A is Gyro and the 1 position is Recovery. That worked, although in Recovery with the alternating Red and Green LEDs, sometimes the Red one quits and I just get a pulsing Green. Probably a bad connection on the Red. In any case, it switches modes without a MIX.

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                                    • ryramZ
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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by doctormike
                                      What is needed to set up a RX600SP for a flying wing? Is it all done in the radio (DX6) or does the receiver need a set up also? Doc
                                      It's easy. All it takes is setting the dip switches forvwing type on the rx.

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                                      • F22trainer
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                                        • Mar 2018
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                                        #39
                                        I had to yank the Admiral out of my HoB Cub. I never figured out how to get the Bind switch to change modes for a given combo with a DXe transmitter. Going back to the original Spektrum 400 RX I had planned without a gyro. That said I will mess with the Admiral after my new TX (DX6) arrives and find another model to put it in.

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                                        • TwistedGrin
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                                          #40
                                          Gents - I often use a separate system (RC+Stabilizer) and have a dedicated UBEC plugged into the "BATT-Bind" port of the RX for power which isolates the ESC for just running the motor. This affords the ESC to stay cool as it is now only servicing control to the motor. Can we deploy a separate UBEC power lead to this RX bind/Aux2 port for the same purpose?

                                          Thanks in Advance,
                                          TwistedGrin

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