Admiral RX600SP 6-channel DSMX with Stability Plus Gyro

[James]

Hi
I have a Spektrum DX7s and wanted to ask if anyone uses it with the Admiral RX600SP with stability plus gyro. If you do use that setup could you tell me how to setup the recovery mode?
thanks
Christoph

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[Chris___aviation]

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the Problem is that my radio doesn’t have the letter I and the Ger when I want to program the Mix so I can’t program it. Can you help?

[Rossgtn]

Admiral RX600SP "Panic Recovery" setup on a switch. Sorry guys if I missed this somewhere but here goes. I installed the RX600SP in a 6 channel aircraft (4 + Flaps and Retracts) using a DX8 gen2 transmitter and I couldn't get the switch to activate Panic Recovery, gyro worked fine. Deleted and recreated the aircraft twice, double and triple checked the setup still not working. Contacted support and was told it was a issue with the DX8 setup and that the receiver was fine and to check my setup. I have installed the RX600SP in 3 other aircraft and had no issues. I then begin checking the setup of the working plane (T-28) and they where the same as for as "Mixes" and "Channel Assignment". So I then deleted the Hellcat in the DX8 and copied the T-28 over and the switch worked. So I was tweaking the setup and now the switch isn't working. Turns out that I had reversed the gear servo (to get gear up with the switch up and down etc) and this kills the recovery switch. So just a FYI if this should happen to you check you gear servo setting. I'm not sure why support didn't suggest I check this.

[Len P.]

Hi guys, I have several of the old Lemon rec/stabs, And all are great in planes that have no flaps or retracts, I want to get this new style to use in a plane with flaps and retracts, And now I see some are having problems with throttle cutouts on certain occasions, So right now I am hesitant to purchase one, However, THIS Information May or May Not be of value to this group concerning this problem of throttle cutout. Not so long ago a Co. in Florida called HeadsUp RC, was closing up, and had everything on sale, Among all the things I purchased was several 6 channel "Powerup" brand receivers, They are type Spekrum compatible, And installed a few in some cheap homemade foam planes, And WOW they work great! ( I have a Spekrum DX6 new model), HOWEVER, I noticed I was having throttle cutout issues with these receivers, Not just One, But All of them!, Then I discovered that If you pointed the transmitter directly at the plane,Yep throttle will cut out, Keep antenna on transmitter 90 degrees away from plane it works just fine! SO maybe that is the issue here with this stab/rec. As it is easy to do without realizing, You stand behind your plane, take off, and your antenna is pointed at the plane, Or while flying, You are watching the plane and point the antenna at the plane, Hence- A brownout, Or throttle cutout. I may be wrong here, But I know it has happened to me, Just may be one of those things that makes you think... Hope someone finds a solution. Take care

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

Quick question. On Freewing planes/edfs with the MCBE board and the Admiral rx600sp rx. Can I plug the UBEC into the the MCBE to free up Aux 2?

TIA, Tom

[James]

Admiral RX600SP "Panic Recovery" setup on a switch. Sorry guys if I missed this somewhere but here goes. I installed the RX600SP in a 6 channel aircraft (4 + Flaps and Retracts) using a DX8 gen2 transmitter and I couldn't get the switch to activate Panic Recovery, gyro worked fine. Deleted and recreated the aircraft twice, double and triple checked the setup still not working. Contacted support and was told it was a issue with the DX8 setup and that the receiver was fine and to check my setup. I have installed the RX600SP in 3 other aircraft and had no issues. I then begin checking the setup of the working plane (T-28) and they where the same as for as "Mixes" and "Channel Assignment". So I then deleted the Hellcat in the DX8 and copied the T-28 over and the switch worked. So I was tweaking the setup and now the switch isn't working. Turns out that I had reversed the gear servo (to get gear up with the switch up and down etc) and this kills the recovery switch. So just a FYI if this should happen to you check you gear servo setting. I'm not sure why support didn't suggest I check this.

So, since you reversed the gear switch, then you went into the mix and went to -5 rather than 5? That makes sense since the GER channel in the mix is part of the setup

[James]

Hi guys, I have several of the old Lemon rec/stabs, And all are great in planes that have no flaps or retracts, I want to get this new style to use in a plane with flaps and retracts, And now I see some are having problems with throttle cutouts on certain occasions, So right now I am hesitant to purchase one, However, THIS Information May or May Not be of value to this group concerning this problem of throttle cutout. Not so long ago a Co. in Florida called HeadsUp RC, was closing up, and had everything on sale, Among all the things I purchased was several 6 channel "Powerup" brand receivers, They are type Spekrum compatible, And installed a few in some cheap homemade foam planes, And WOW they work great! ( I have a Spekrum DX6 new model), HOWEVER, I noticed I was having throttle cutout issues with these receivers, Not just One, But All of them!, Then I discovered that If you pointed the transmitter directly at the plane,Yep throttle will cut out, Keep antenna on transmitter 90 degrees away from plane it works just fine! SO maybe that is the issue here with this stab/rec. As it is easy to do without realizing, You stand behind your plane, take off, and your antenna is pointed at the plane, Or while flying, You are watching the plane and point the antenna at the plane, Hence- A brownout, Or throttle cutout. I may be wrong here, But I know it has happened to me, Just may be one of those things that makes you think... Hope someone finds a solution. Take care

Do you have a picture of how you are mounting the receiver? I have seen many who mount a receiver (any receiver) and not tape off the aerials at 90 degree angles for max coverage. Many time at events I see people open there planes and the receiver is just in there and the aerials are next to each other, or touching the battery, esc or something else powered electrically which will 100% cause signal issues.

You always want to mount any receiver as far from all the other electronics as possible AND tape off the aerials at 90 degrees from each other.

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

I don't know why I ask questions here since I'm usually ignored but I'll ask another. With the stabilizer on (on a 2 pos. switch mode 3) and the Master gain all the way up (set up with my Rknob on Ch 8) when I pitch or roll my AL37 the surfaces deflect and stay deflected until I level the plane. Is this "normal"?
TIA for any input.

Tom

[Beeg]

I have only used a gyro in one airplane. Just so you don't feel like you're being ignored, in my limited gyro experience having gains all the way up is extreme. Maybe try half gain and see what happens?

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

I have only used a gyro in one airplane. Just so you don't feel like you're being ignored, in my limited gyro experience having gains all the way up is extreme. Maybe try half gain and see what happens?

I only use the max gain to check correct direction correction.

Tom

[Beeg]

When you say stabilizer are you talking about a recovery "auto-leveler" or a standard gyro to dampen movement?

[F22trainer]

I don't know why I ask questions here since I'm usually ignored but I'll ask another. With the stabilizer on (on a 2 pos. switch mode 3) and the Master gain all the way up (set up with my Rknob on Ch 8) when I pitch or roll my AL37 the surfaces deflect and stay deflected until I level the plane. Is this "normal"?
TIA for any input.

Tom

My experience with the Admiral is 50/50...one does not work at all. It did when I set the model up at home, but went to fly and would not respond at all when powered up at the field. That said, the other one has been in use for a few years now. I tried to set it up with a full version DXe but could not get the mix to work. I upgraded to a DX6, Gen. 3, used the setup guide and the videos, put it on a 2 position switch and it works great - had to reduce the gains after the first flight but did not want recovery mode. No Master gain switch on the DX6, but several other members use it.

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

When you say stabilizer are you talking about a recovery "auto-leveler" or a standard gyro to dampen movement?

I'm in mode 3 or C..no recovery mode.Gains are switched on/off.

[xviper]

When you hold the plane at any angle other than level and the control surfaces stay deflected, that's an indication that you've somehow selected "recovery mode" on these types of stabilized RXs. You may not have intentionally selected "recovery", but that's how the plane is reacting. This is the same as the Spektrum line of RXs when you throw the switch for "safe select". If you flew it like that, the plane will not (or be very difficult) to do a complete roll or a complete loop. Normal stabilized mode, when you move the plane, the control surfaces moves in the opposite direction to counter-act that movement, BUT, only for an instance, then they go back to neutral. They shouldn't stay.
PS. Perhaps the reason why nobody answered your previous questions is that nobody who read it, knows the answer.

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

Thank you xviper.

New plane, new rx600sp.
I've come across something today a bit puzzling.. I have the rx600sp in mode C with a 3 pos. switch. In pos 0 the stabilization is OFF. In pos. 2 stabilization is ON. So far so good. I have adjustable gains on a knob. Turning the knob CCW decreases the gains. Rotating the knob CW increases the gains. Knob at center should be where the pots are set. So far so good.
I set up my dual rates and throws etc in my tx as always.
Looking good.
So, I fly my AL37 today (only it's third flight) and seemed to lose elevator authority. Landed it fine.
Put in a fresh battery and went to taxi. Checking my throws as usual and noticed my elevator had reduced throws and I was on high rates. Reduced throws on ailerons as well.
On my first flight I had some oscillation in the roll axis so I lowered the gains via the knob.
Took my plane back to the bench and discovered that when I switched from stabilization off to stabilization on my throws on elev. and. ail. would change. Decreasing with stab. on.
Then I adjusted the pots on the unit.
As I would increase the gains on the knob my throws would increase. If I decreased the the gains with the knob my throws would consequently decrease as well.
I'm stumped as to what's causing this to happen.
I think I'll go back to the beginning as if it's a new model and rx/stab.

I'm new to using this Admiral rx600sp.
I do have it in two other aircraft and they don't have this behavior.

Tom

[xviper]

Knob at center should be where the pots are set.

I don't use this RX. I use the Lemon equivalent, so my responses are "generic" to the two. The knob is "master gain". It is a proportional relationship to your pots on the RX. IE, if your knob is in the middle, it is NOT representative of where your pots are. If the pots are in the "middle", that's about 50% gain. If your knob is in the "middle", that's also 50% of what the pots are. Therefore, if both are at 50%, the actual gain is then 25%.
When you start to use gyros that have both "normal" gain and "3D" gain, the knob does something completely different depending on how you set stuff up. At 50% ("middle"), there is ZERO gain for anything. "Normal" gain goes from zero to 100% counter-clock. "3D" gain goes from zero to 100% clockwise. Now you have to look at the color of the light on the unit and what those colors mean.

[davecee]

I've got oneof these in my Lippish P-15. It's worked perfectly, until today. Powered up as usual, launched and plane flew OK for a few seconds then started to oscillate in roll as if the gain was set too high. I'd never touched the gain adjustment since it was installed. Switching to recovery mode increased the oscillation. Switched back to just stability and safely landed. Turned the aileron gain down, launched again and it did it again, I again landed safely. Turned the aileron gain to minimum and launched again aand fter a few seconds it started to oscillate in pitch, attempted to land, but the pitch oscillations caused it to nose into the ground and flip with some subsequent damage. Again the receiver has worked perfectly until today. I made no changes to anything prior to the initial launch. Very windy today, gusts to a measured 16 mph, but I've flown it in these kind of winds many times. Anybody seen similar behavior? Any hints of how to trouble shoot this problem?

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

Ok, so I started over. New Model. Rx600sp in default config. All pots all the way negative. Put stab in mode C.
Set up the Stabilizer on same switch as before. Pos 0, stab off. Pos 2, stab on.
Set my low,mid and high rates in tx. Assigned Rknob to Aux 3 for Master gain.
Set elev pot to 11 o'clock.
Powered up tx then rx.
Now when i turn off/on stab the throws do not change. When I increase/decrease the Master gain the throws don't change.
I don't know why it did it previously but works as it should now.

Tom

[xviper]

Gremlins!

[Cessna180]

I just installed the Admiral 600 stabilizer rx. Set up is straight forward, but watching the videos is a must , there are some errors but you can work around them. I have used several other brands, am quite familiar with the theory and operation.I then tried setting up throttle cut (dx6 new version) and realized that the gyro uses the Gear channel and so does the throttle cut. After a very very interesting conversation with a motion rc associate and several disagreements I agreed to program Throttle Hold. Now what? not in the menu and I was not going to call back as some information in the videos is incorrect and our conversation was far from positive. So here goes how to program Throttle Cut or Hold. Go to mix 2, you have used mix 1. Mix Thr to Thr, rate -100,-100,offset-100, trim inh. I use switch A. Go to servo setup and scroll the low throttle setting to
-150. So now we have Throttle Cut.
Michael