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  • Valkpilot
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    • Oct 2017
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    #3541
    Originally posted by Alpha
    Martin Mars would be a treat. Big and slow and scale. Speaking of which, a Bear remains near the top of my personal wishlist (although compared to the Mars it isn't exactly "slow").
    But wouldn't that be REALLY expensive to pull off the counter-rotating propellers?

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    • Alpha
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      #3542
      Why yes, yes it would. but electric contra-rotating propsets sound divine.
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      • T-CAT
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        #3543
        Although I love my 80mm (6S PNP and 8S aftermarket) and 90mm EDF jets (only 8S or above on most of the scale jets), I'm in the mood for a new 70mm EDF jet. The 6S 70mm EDF jets with full suspension struts and enough scale features are fun, and am curious to see what the future holds for those.

        It's okay to spill the beans on Hobbysquawk regarding a new project, Alpha. The internet is totally private and nobody will know.

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        • tab28682
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          #3544
          Originally posted by Valkpilot

          But wouldn't that be REALLY expensive to pull off the counter-rotating propellers?
          There have been a number of brushless motor sets produced where one motor shaft rotates inside another motors hollow shaft. The two motor stack works fine.

          With these and two ESCs and some custom spinners and props, you would be good to go. This does turn aircraft like a Bear Bomber into, technically, a model with 8 motors and 8 speed controls. Not undoable.

          I have bought a couple of different smaller coaxial brushless motors for under 50 bucks.
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          • Gilatrout
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            • Dec 2016
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            #3545
            If you can do a Bear, you can do a B-36.

            Just saying. ;)

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            • Beeg
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              #3546
              We all usually put forth "manned" aircraft but a few have mentioned the modern UCAV's. I don't know how many remember back in the late 70's/early 80's when the HiMAT project was the talk of the aviation circles. Back then the periodical "Aviation Week&Space Technology" was always full of new an exciting ideas and new technologies due to the cold war with the USSR and "Star Wars" research. It hasn't been nearly as exciting the last decade or so.

              Anyway, when I was a young man I always thought the HiMAT vehicle was coolest thing going and had hoped that is what the F-16 would have morphed into. I think with wheels it would make a very cool EDF.

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              • xviper
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                #3547
                Originally posted by tab28682

                There have been a number of brushless motor sets produced where one motor shaft rotates inside another motors hollow shaft. The two motor stack works fine.

                With these and two ESCs and some custom spinners and props, you would be good to go. This does turn aircraft like a Bear Bomber into, technically, a model with 8 motors and 8 speed controls. Not undoable.

                I have bought a couple of different smaller coaxial brushless motors for under 50 bucks.
                I've never seen "humping" motors.

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                • Valkpilot
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                  #3548
                  Originally posted by Beeg
                  We all usually put forth "manned" aircraft but a few have mentioned the modern UCAV's. I don't know how many remember back in the late 70's/early 80's when the HiMAT project was the talk of the aviation circles. Back then the periodical "Aviation Week&Space Technology" was always full of new an exciting ideas and new technologies due to the cold war with the USSR and "Star Wars" research. It hasn't been nearly as exciting the last decade or so.

                  Anyway, when I was a young man I always thought the HiMAT vehicle was coolest thing going and had hoped that is what the F-16 would have morphed into. I think with wheels it would make a very cool EDF.

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                  If you like the HIMAT check this one out, STRAIT OUTTA QO'NOS:


                  The Boeing Bird of Prey

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                  • Valkpilot
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                    #3549
                    Originally posted by Gilatrout
                    If you can do a Bear, you can do a B-36.

                    Just saying. ;)
                    Compared to the Bear, unless you wanted full realism, a Peacemaker would be infinitely easier. Only two more engines than the B-24, and unless you absolutely, positively had to have the jet pods functional with EDFs, all the'd have to be are plastic glue-ons.

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                    • Beeg
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                      #3550
                      Originally posted by Valkpilot

                      If you like the HIMAT check this one out, STRAIT OUTTA QO'NOS:


                      The Boeing Bird of Prey
                      That doesn't do it for me. I like the performance aspect of the HiMAT rather than a "stealth" drone that would flame out if pulling more than 5 or 6 positive G's.

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                      • AceMigKiller
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                        • Feb 2016
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                        #3551
                        Originally posted by Alpha
                        Why yes, yes it would. but electric contra-rotating propsets sound divine.
                        I remember a few years back there was free plans out of an English magazine for a hot-wire cut foam Tu-95.
                        Designed by... Chris Golds? I believe? Ran a couple of .40 glow engines with dummy outer motors or four .25's
                        Even back then I was curious to the feasibility of it flying on brushless outrunners. Lipos were pretty new at the time, just for context

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                        • tab28682
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                          • Jul 2017
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                          #3552
                          Originally posted by AceMigKiller

                          I remember a few years back there was free plans out of an English magazine for a hot-wire cut foam Tu-95.
                          Designed by... Chris Golds? I believe? Ran a couple of .40 glow engines with dummy outer motors or four .25's
                          Even back then I was curious to the feasibility of it flying on brushless outrunners. Lipos were pretty new at the time, just for context
                          I had that plan, scaled it down and started a 72” version for four Speed 400 direct drive.It sits on the shelf, about 30-40% complete.

                          As unlikely as it would ever be, an ARF would be awesome.

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                          • James
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                            • Aug 2017
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                            #3553
                            What's next you ask? Find out LIVE Tomorrow (Friday, August 7th) at 12 pm est on our YouTube channel. Alpha will be joining me and we will unveil your next RC favorite! Show will go live at this link:



                            Can't wait to see you all there!

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                            • T-CAT
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                              #3554
                              Originally posted by James
                              What's next you ask? Find out LIVE Tomorrow (Friday, August 7th) at 12 pm est on our YouTube channel. Alpha will be joining me and we will unveil your next RC favorite! Show will go live at this link:



                              Can't wait to see you all there!

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                              • ArthurJ
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                                • Jun 2019
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                                #3555
                                Originally posted by James
                                What's next you ask? Find out LIVE Tomorrow (Friday, August 7th) at 12 pm est on our YouTube channel. Alpha will be joining me and we will unveil your next RC favorite! Show will go live at this link:



                                Can't wait to see you all there!

                                oh yeaaaaah come on make us a nice big RAFALE or any french fighter jet 🤙🏻🥰🇫🇷

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                                • Aros
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                                  #3556
                                  I see a lot of orders ahead for this one.
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                                  • L over D
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                                    #3557
                                    No hints this time? 😃 Just a tiny one?

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                                    • Twowingtj
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                                      #3558
                                      Well, we do know it's an EDF.

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                                      • Gilatrout
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                                        #3559
                                        Originally posted by Twowingtj
                                        Well, we do know it's an EDF.
                                        Yes, but how many edfs?

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                                        • Alpha
                                          Former Motion RC Staff

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                                          #3560
                                          Originally posted by L over D
                                          No hints this time? 😃 Just a tiny one?
                                          A big one, actually
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