New Avios Mig 17 ?

[mavdriver]

Nice I would do a Red Bull version

[themudduck]

MrS, that cockpit looks terrific. Great job on that, and the rest of the plane! It really looks sharp.

[Elbee]

MS, Bravo Zulu, Sir. It is inspiring to see talented modelers using 3DP, Corel, and whatever other tech is available to do such great work. Best as always, LB

[MrSmoothie]

Happy to see a thread on the Avios Mig-17 over here on HS. I'm "done" with the thread on RCG -- every second or third post is from the same jack*** (yes, I mean that) who posts his new videos flying his Mig irresponsibly (the way that is causing, and will continue to cause, all kinds of issues by the FAA for law-abiding AMA member flyers).

That said, here's my Mig 17. I replaced all the servos with Freewing hybrid metal gear. The inner doors worked -- until they became intermittent and I decided not to fool with them any longer, as I could barely tell if the wheels were covered or not in flight. All wheels are Freewing replacements (F-4 Phantom). 3D printed cockpit and pilot. New color scheme -- BEHR flat latex uppers, Testors silver (spray can) lowers. I did my own grahics in CorelDraw, printed out for me, as always, by Callie. My pitot tubes are partly 3D printed (tips and wing-nubs) with plastic straw in-between, in case they snag.

My latest lipo is the one suggested by The RC Geek -- Roaring Top, 6s, 6250mAh. So far I'm very impressed. Vertical is virtually unlimited (when it gets too high to see, that's high enough, right?).

[gooniac33]

OK here you go! This video was shot on Monday, we had what will probably be the last nice day until next April of May. Unfortunately Gooniac's afterburner didn't show up well in the daylight during the flight, partially because of the angle to the camera, but the video does include a shot on the ground which shows it off. This flight also includes "the sound" - my favorite thing to do with this plane is to make a high-speed dive and then cut the power - the result is a "compressor stall" that sounds TOTALLY cool, but is hard to get on the camera mike.... so here it is.

I also made a perfect landing - after trying and trying without a lot of success to get rid of the bounce, I finally did it. The solution for me was to mix in a little bit of up elevator with full flaps. I also increased the flap throw and replaced the original hard nose wheel with a soft foam one. Poof - problem solved, perfect landing!

Here is the proof! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJwzcAgt-JI

What I think stands out the most about this plane is the way it sounds!! It sounds awesome screaming past! Its a lot of fun to fly and my only issue with it is the tail being so easy to crunch with car doors etc...

[WrightBrosRC]

I was hoping to fly mine today, but the build yesterday hit a snag...

[themudduck]

OK here you go! This video was shot on Monday, we had what will probably be the last nice day until next April of May. Unfortunately Gooniac's afterburner didn't show up well in the daylight during the flight, partially because of the angle to the camera, but the video does include a shot on the ground which shows it off. This flight also includes "the sound" - my favorite thing to do with this plane is to make a high-speed dive and then cut the power - the result is a "compressor stall" that sounds TOTALLY cool, but is hard to get on the camera mike.... so here it is.

I also made a perfect landing - after trying and trying without a lot of success to get rid of the bounce, I finally did it. The solution for me was to mix in a little bit of up elevator with full flaps. I also increased the flap throw and replaced the original hard nose wheel with a soft foam one. Poof - problem solved, perfect landing!

Here is the proof! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJwzcAgt-JI

[gooniac33]

Great job! I'll have a new video posted soon. I got a couple of flights in with the burner today!

Sweet!! Looking forward to seeing it!

[themudduck]

Great job! I'll have a new video posted soon. I got a couple of flights in with the burner today!

[gooniac33]

Finally a flight that is not hat cam!! take a look...

[Porkster]

I had an aileron, flap and gear door. Gear door is understandable as they do make some noise. The flap servo just stopped working and the aileron servo melted the case and has actually damaged the foam on the wing. HK did send replacement servos but after the Aileron failure I thought I’d rather change to servos I trust.
I was very careful on set up and moved linkages and used mechanical throw rather than through the radio.
I'm going to keep going with this plane as it is very pretty in the sky and will achieve decent flight times. Just a shame about the junk fitted to mine. As another note mine did turn up without any marks and was well packed, so guess some QC is present.

[Evan D]

I stopped counting but I'm probably around 100 and while a couple have always mad some noise none have failed. I also took my time in set up and moved linkages in on servo horns where I could to get better leverage. I also resized all the ball links as they were very tight. And I also removed the white box and ran extensions and Y's.

I am still using all the original servos, retract module and sequencer.

I had a friend just last night saying that I am super lucky and never have servos fail (talking specifically about FW EDFs). I personally think we make our own luck some of the time.

[Helijet]

Wow..i have about 50 some flights on mine with original servos but I did take lots of time to set up the gear, flaps and airbrake servos. May I ask which ones failed on you?

[Porkster]

I had occasion to watch a MiG-17 during Oshkosh 2016`s night show, I believe it was NX620F but can't recall exactly. Either way, it was one of the most memorable flight demos I've seen in recent years. The pilot had a plume of flame that must have measured almost half the length of his fuselage blazing out the back during a low pass. It's amazing how confining the cockpit is, and how limited the forward visibility is, similar to something like an A-4, yet they were such an effective fighting force despite the simplicity of such a classic design. Quite literally a point and shoot aerial weapon. I've always had a soft spot for MiGs, and the MiG-17 high among them, The models always seem to fly well, from the Freewing to the FlyFly to the BVM.


Porkster Are you saying that your Savox servo failed, or the stock one? Savox has always been reliable for me; they're my Go To servo for larger helicopters in unenviable flight environments.

Hi Alpha,
sorry, that was poorly written, I had three of the original servos fail so I decided to replace all the servos with savox. I’ve always liked the Savox brand.

[Evan D]

I repainted mine and the original paint is too delicate. A slight bump and it flakes off.

I just wish it was some other finish besides camo, seems the cheap way out, cutting corners on the design. Would have liked a finish closer to the Thunderchief, w the metal tones, shades, and no, am not goin through the hassle of painting it at that price.

[MrVoyagerx]

I just wish it was some other finish besides camo, seems the cheap way out, cutting corners on the design. Would have liked a finish closer to the Thunderchief, w the metal tones, shades, and no, am not goin through the hassle of painting it at that price.

[Alpha]

I had occasion to watch a MiG-17 during Oshkosh 2016`s night show, I believe it was NX620F but can't recall exactly. Either way, it was one of the most memorable flight demos I've seen in recent years. The pilot had a plume of flame that must have measured almost half the length of his fuselage blazing out the back during a low pass. It's amazing how confining the cockpit is, and how limited the forward visibility is, similar to something like an A-4, yet they were such an effective fighting force despite the simplicity of such a classic design. Quite literally a point and shoot aerial weapon. I've always had a soft spot for MiGs, and the MiG-17 high among them, The models always seem to fly well, from the Freewing to the FlyFly to the BVM.


Porkster Are you saying that your Savox servo failed, or the stock one? Savox has always been reliable for me; they're my Go To servo for larger helicopters in unenviable flight environments.

[Evan D]

Sorry to hear this. The ESC is a good one but rated at 100A with a 5A BEC. My Mig pulls more than 100A at full throttle and the low grade servos don't tax the BEC. I wonder if your changing the servos might have been too much for the internal BEC?

[Porkster]

I bought my MiG 17 as soon as they were released and have been absolutely loving it. Admittedly I have changed all the servos for Savox, metal geared ones and by-passed the landing gear control box.
Its been flying great and I really like its overall flight characteristics.
Unfortunately the quality of components leaves much to be desired, first the servos and last weekend the ESC failed :( after a couple of miss fires, which i heard so I was setting up to land, down wind gear down alls fine, base leg, no control at all.... so lucky it was level and slow plus I fly from an airbase with very few obstacles. It did however find one of the only trees to land in!!! its a tough ol'bird, i'll get it fixed but lets say hobby king has been their usual non helpful selves :rolling_eyes:

[gooniac33]

Yep, you got that right, cycling the batteries is a must.

A friend has this jet at the field, this thing is huge and flies fast w good envelope. But, I personally dont dig the color scheme and jet wing design, just imo.

That flying field never sees a drop of cloud, has to be difficult to fly sometimes. I hate flying in skies w no clouds, got no reference points at all.

It is a really important step that most people miss. I would prefer to get at least 15 cycles to be really happy but considering the load being put on them in this plane I think that is enough. I have a Turnigy Reaktor Charge that can do Regen Discharge. So I hook it up to an external battery and then set it up on their cycle set up. It will discharge that pack at about 12-15amps which is good enough to get it done reasonably quickly without over amping the pack.