Official Freewing 80mm EDF F-86 Sabre Thread

[russ t]

I'm considering purchasing a used Freewing F-86. I have a few questions.

1. It apparently has an upgraded motor, fan, and ESC. Has anyone heard of putting the Avanti motor, fan and ESC into the F86? So far I've only found mention of the FMS 12blade fan upgrade.
2. I'm a former full size flying instructor, and always test my RC models for stalls, so I can learn how far I can slow them down. Have also been experimenting with airspeed telemetry on my Avanti. Anyway, the Avanti stalls, spins, and tail slides great, and recovers instantly, though usually pointing downward so loss of altitude. It's first stall tendency is a gentle nose drop (even with a rearward C of G). And only if you hold back elevator for a few seconds does it drop a wing tip. How does the F86 stall? Abrupt or gentle nose drop? Does it immediately drop a wing? I know a lot of you wouldn't try or recommend this, but its usually perfectly safe doing it high up. I'm looking for a response from someone who's actually tried it.

Thanks very much!

[Ron1950]

I used the freewing 100a esc set up for the f86 (had the correct wire lenths for this plane) I haven't had any problems with any of there esc's

[Phantom]

What esc did you use?

Not sure what he used, but I purchased a 100amp with 120amp burst capability from FMS website. It was the biggest one they had. From what I read about this power setup, it only pulls about 90 amps max.

[Mayler]

you will really like the power and sound from this fan also your batteries and esc don't get hot just a little warm with throttle management u can check out the sound on this clip if u want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqmyCUUur8Q

What esc did you use?

[Ron1950]

look at the flying vid on #427

[AkumaZeto]

well that's up to the way u fly it I guess

Do you have vids of this setup. I am going to purchase another one of these awesome birds.

[Ron1950]

well that's up to the way u fly it I guess

[Phantom]

you will really like the power and sound from this fan also your batteries and esc don't get hot just a little warm with throttle management u can check out the sound on this clip if u want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqmyCUUur8Q

Longer flight times by chance? Due to greater efficiency from this power setup.

[Ron1950]

you will really like the power and sound from this fan also your batteries and esc don't get hot just a little warm with throttle management u can check out the sound on this clip if u want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqmyCUUur8Q

[Phantom]

http://www.fmsmodel.com/fms-80mm-duc...0-kv2100-motor

this is the hole unit with the 2100 motor its the same fan unit for the 2000 motor hh has it also here
https://www.horizonhobby.com/airplan...--p-efla8012df

Thank you Ron, I just purchased that setup. Almost unlimited vertical sounds pretty good to me, I'm about 7 to 15 days away from a repower!

[Ron1950]

http://www.fmsmodel.com/fms-80mm-duc...0-kv2100-motor

this is the hole unit with the 2100 motor its the same fan unit for the 2000 motor hh has it also here

https://www.horizonhobby.com/airplanes/ducted-fan-units/ducted-fan-unit--12-blade%3A-f-4-phantom-ii-80mm--p-efla8012df

[Phantom]

id go with the 9 blade but never the 6 blade this is a very bulkey plane..ive put the fms fan with a 2000kv 12 blade in and really helped the speed then replaced that with the 2100kv fan and has almost has unlimited vertical lol

Do you have exactly which FMS 12 Blade fan and the 2100kv motor by chance?

[Ron1950]

id go with the 9 blade but never the 6 blade this is a very bulkey plane..ive put the fms fan with a 2000kv 12 blade in and really helped the speed then replaced that with the 2100kv fan and has almost has unlimited vertical lol

[Phantom]

Well I hate taking the damn wing off this bird, but I think I'm gonna throw in the 9 blade power system first, and I hope I'll like the performance since I love the 12 bladed sound and the 9 bladed one isn't too far removed from the whoosh we all love.

After that setup, whether I like it or not, I'm going to throw in the 6 bladed setup, which I believe I will love the performance of most, but absolutely hate the sound for, oh well we will see...

[Ks.jetflyer]

I'd like a little more speed for fluid aerobatics I've got a few FW power systems to include a 6 blade and 9 bladed fan. Has anyone had success using another FW power system set up in their F-86. Keep in mind I've been flying this one since about 2015 stock so not sure if they upgraded the power system for the ones they sell now...:Confused:

I blew the rotor on mine, believe fod got it. I picked up a used FW set up that has the 1800kv motor and 100 amp esc. Not a speed demon by any means, but a very noticeable increase in thrust and speed over the stock 1750kv set up.

[Ron1950]

first flight on the 2100kv fan tomorrow...hope I got that darn fan back on right lol ill let ya know if I think its faster then the 2000kv fan

[Phantom]

I'd like a little more speed for fluid aerobatics I've got a few FW power systems to include a 6 blade and 9 bladed fan. Has anyone had success using another FW power system set up in their F-86. Keep in mind I've been flying this one since about 2015 stock so not sure if they upgraded the power system for the ones they sell now...:Confused:

[flyinhigh042]

Thanks to all for the battery info. I do appreciate it. Looks like I need an F-86 in the hanger... ;-)

[DCORSAIR]

Hey everyone. Admittedly, I’m being a little lazy here. Rather than researching and reading 21 pages in this forum, I’m wondering if anyone has flown the F 86 with the Admiral 5000 6S pack? Is it too heavy? Or will it work? Thanks for the input!

Shouldn't be a problem I would think, I fly mine all the time with Gensace 5000 60c pks, it handles it just fine, I fly a little nose neavy anyway on all my jets so it flies just fine and lands like a trainer, I can grease it right in on the mains with the drop tanks on.:Cool:

[Phantom]

I have flown it with a CHNL 6s 6000mah 70c battery. Trust me that's a big battery, 4.5 to 5 minutes of flight time. Lands a wee bit faster but still easy to grease her on, it's the only time I land with power on for this bird, unless winds dictate otherwise I usually land power off.