Avios/Hobby King 1600mm C-130 Hercules

[xviper]

cheers bud, yeah ill make sure all of the checks as you state are carried out. If i have any doubts ill buy a different brand like micro beast or something.

When it comes to to battery the one i mentioned in the last post was 80C is this ok to use or is it better to use what the avios reccomend e.g 40 ~60C

That should be fine (battery). This Herc is not a high demanding power system. It'll fly on almost anything so long as it will balance given the weight. High C is never bad but too low can be.

[Arron yeate]

It's really hard to tell a clone from the real deal. I bought a tail gyro for my helicopter years ago. It was a well known and popular brand. It came in all the proper packaging, labels and even the actual gyro looked identical. I found out the hard way on the internet that that particular seller was selling clones. I took the thing apart and found a large nut glued inside to make up the weight of having no electronic innards. I don't suggest you do that but I would strongly recommend you do ALL the required tests once the gyro is installed before the plane leaves the ground - control directions are correct, gyro response directions are correct, no odd little glitches like vibrations and improper servo centering. These are telltale signs that something is wrong - DON'T FLY.

cheers bud, yeah ill make sure all of the checks as you state are carried out. If i have any doubts ill buy a different brand like micro beast or something.

When it comes to to battery the one i mentioned in the last post was 80C is this ok to use or is it better to use what the avios reccomend e.g 40 ~60C

[xviper]

ah good stuff, however mine was purchased from ebay a while ago for £17.00 this is the actual product taken by my phone

It's really hard to tell a clone from the real deal. I bought a tail gyro for my helicopter years ago. It was a well known and popular brand. It came in all the proper packaging, labels and even the actual gyro looked identical. I found out the hard way on the internet that that particular seller was selling clones. I took the thing apart and found a large nut glued inside to make up the weight of having no electronic innards. I don't suggest you do that but I would strongly recommend you do ALL the required tests once the gyro is installed before the plane leaves the ground - control directions are correct, gyro response directions are correct, no odd little glitches like vibrations and improper servo centering. These are telltale signs that something is wrong - DON'T FLY.

[Arron yeate]

Either one will work. Neither is the "wrong" one. I use both on my planes. The A3-L has a "normal" gain pot and a "3D" gain pot. You dial the 3D to zero. The A3 splits the gain pots into the 3 separate axis - AIL, ELE, RUD. I don't think you can have 3D gain on that one.
BTW, HobbyEagle has discontinued both of those. You can still buy left over stock in various places but once that stock is gone, you'll have to buy the replacements, which will have some extra features. Just beware of "clones" from places like ebay or even AliExpress and Banggood.

ah good stuff, however mine was purchased from ebay a while ago for £17.00 this is the actual product taken by my phone

[xviper]

Either one will work. Neither is the "wrong" one. I use both on my planes. The A3-L has a "normal" gain pot and a "3D" gain pot. You dial the 3D to zero. The A3 splits the gain pots into the 3 separate axis - AIL, ELE, RUD. I don't think you can have 3D gain on that one.
BTW, HobbyEagle has discontinued both of those. You can still buy left over stock in various places but once that stock is gone, you'll have to buy the replacements, which will have some extra features. Just beware of "clones" from places like ebay or even AliExpress and Banggood.

[Arron yeate]

I haven't seen that particular battery in my neck of the woods. However, the weight is likely good to balance this plane in the available space provided. Even if the 80C is exaggerated, this plane really only needs 30C or so anyway.
I use this Graphene in my Herc:
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/graphene...ucts_analytics
It lays transverse at the rear of the battery compartment right up against that first lip. It balances nicely and flies very well. 250g to 300g is about the sweet spot for a transverse mounted battery. Any bigger and it may have to straddle the lip. I am also amazed at just how long this thing can fly on 2200mah.
I do use a gyro in mine. It's been a while since I looked at it but I recall it's the same HobbyEagle A3-L you posted up. Use only the normal gain and turn the 3D gain completely OFF. Mine flies very stable with the gain at around 30% - 35%.

Thats great thanks you. Yeah these batteries are UK made apparently quite good. I was just looking at the gyro and theres 2 x different hobbyeagle A3's. Mines the A3'L V2 gyro and then theres an A3- V2 with also has gyro and stabiliser... have i got the right one

[xviper]

Its been a while away from the hercules. Im in the Uk what are your thoughts on this battery? Weight, discharge etc

https://www.overlander.co.uk/2200mah...o-battery.html

I haven't seen that particular battery in my neck of the woods. However, the weight is likely good to balance this plane in the available space provided. Even if the 80C is exaggerated, this plane really only needs 30C or so anyway.
I use this Graphene in my Herc:
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/graphene...ucts_analytics
It lays transverse at the rear of the battery compartment right up against that first lip. It balances nicely and flies very well. 250g to 300g is about the sweet spot for a transverse mounted battery. Any bigger and it may have to straddle the lip. I am also amazed at just how long this thing can fly on 2200mah.
I do use a gyro in mine. It's been a while since I looked at it but I recall it's the same HobbyEagle A3-L you posted up. Use only the normal gain and turn the 3D gain completely OFF. Mine flies very stable with the gain at around 30% - 35%.

[Arron yeate]

Actually, there are several 2.2, 4s batteries. You just have to put in the correct search parameters.
Here's the one I'm using in the Herc, weighing about 273g:

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/graphene-2200mah-4s-45c-w-xt60.html?queryID=0f9904658f625296ea0cd69ba0038c6d&objectID=45448&indexName=hbk_live_magento_en_us_products

A slightly better one is this one weighting only 20g more:

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/graphene-2200mah-4s-75c.html?queryID=08b5c59ea9fded9bcced97f97781a28c&objectID=75660&indexName=hbk_live_magento_en_us_products

So if you don't wish to carve out foam, your target battery weight is in the 270 to 290g range. An even better buy and perhaps just as good if not better battery is this one from ChinaHobbyLine from their USA warehouse. However, you need to buy 80 bucks worth to get free shipping. That would equate to 4 of these:

https://chinahobbyline.com/shop/detail/38

Because of the higher price of the HobbyKing ones, you can get free shipping by buying just one or two. When I need more of this size of battery, I'll get the CNHL ones. Actually, I just checked, I've got 4 of them coming from CNHL as I type.

Its been a while away from the hercules. Im in the Uk what are your thoughts on this battery? Weight, discharge etc

https://www.overlander.co.uk/2200mah-14-8v-4s-80c-extreme-pro-lipo-battery.html

[Arron yeate]

Have any of you installed a gyro to your hercs, and what are your thoughts on the a3-l v2? I have a micro beast in my scale heli and the micro beast is a lot more expensive but does the cost change anything?

[Arron yeate]

Actually I use 2600 mah and 3000 mah tunigy pack without any CG problem, get up to 7-8 min of playtime

Which battery are you using do you have a link?

[FlyingFighter]

Nice job i like the grey version.?. F18 not keen on the blue angels,,, think I just like the military stuff I have been looking at the c130 alot of work thou if its like my mig 17 but its a great looking plane can't believe 2200 runs 4 motors 4 5 minuts

Actually I use 2600 mah and 3000 mah tunigy pack without any CG problem, get up to 7-8 min of playtime

[f4u ausie]

Hello all! Just needed to say that I'm a happy Avios C-130 owner. Mine got some scratch du to transport and some hard landing on grass field but works and fly pretty, just replaced my prop by the BA version because I find it better with those yellow line and pant the panel lines with tamya panel line juice and added two false windows with some black paint! :)

Nice job i like the grey version.?. F18 not keen on the blue angels,,, think I just like the military stuff I have been looking at the c130 alot of work thou if its like my mig 17 but its a great looking plane can't believe 2200 runs 4 motors 4 5 minuts

[FlyingFighter]

Hello all! Just needed to say that I'm a happy Avios C-130 owner. Mine got some scratch du to transport and some hard landing on grass field but works and fly pretty, just replaced my prop by the BA version because I find it better with those yellow line and pant the panel lines with tamya panel line juice and added two false windows with some black paint! :)

[Arron yeate]

Color me a satisfied Avios C-130 owner.

Still need to do a little weathering on my Avios C-130H, but have been flying it instead. I chose to model a local Texas Air National Guard C-130H-2 aircraft that a flying buddy has in their squadron and works on. I enjoyed recognizing the hometown hard working members of the Guard.

Markings are a mix of the stock Avios decals (some not exactly the right size, but close enough for sport scale) and my own custom TANG markings, plus some home brew hatches and windows. I did get Callie’s C-130 decal sheet, but only used the prop decals and the “armament” box next to the crew door.

Wing and fuselage walk lines are done with a black paint pen of the correct width.

Hi mate

Looks great, do ypu know what width paint pen you used for the walk lines

[Arron yeate]

Have any of you applied a coat of any protection / wax or anything to stop dirty marks getting stained on the body from your hands?

[xviper]

I have just assembled my c130 and checked CG (65mm) from the leading edge of wings with 2200mha 4s and it's tipping nose down at 45° . I never even thought to fly any airplane that much nose heavy. Battery is place in the prearranged by factory place. What I am doing wrong?

When you say "factory place" for the battery, where is that? Where was the battery strap when you got the plane? The strap "could" be mounted along the longitudinal slots or it could be mounted at the rear, near the back foam lip for a transverse battery position. It's the transverse position that should be used.

[Basas]

I have just assembled my c130 and checked CG (65mm) from the leading edge of wings with 2200mha 4s and it's tipping nose down at 45° . I never even thought to fly any airplane that much nose heavy. Battery is place in the prearranged by factory place. What I am doing wrong?

[boomer108]

Congrats on the maiden Brinka! Good looking plane.

[Brinka]

Finished the maiden of my C130, although it took me a lot of time to finish the build and set up right, the airplane did indeed come with flaws, particularly on the elevator and rudder hinges. Both flap servos burned out on me during a short test and after replacing them I noticed they were placed in opposite wings, meaning reverse servo was on wrong side causing servo to work harder and buzzing, they got really hot and both burned out during a minimal flap set up.

I did indeed go through aircraft details as advised above, thanks again. So back to hinges I had to remove and glue loose hinges on elevator and rudder, that was really tricky as they are all connected together underneath the foam. This was vey troublesome and had to break it in order to glue and stabilize better. Foam on the rudder was damaged and had to putty and repaint.

Maiden flight went great, I flew with 10 mph cross winds and although she did handle well, I will need to install a gyro to stabilize her better, I took off with half flaps and it needed a bit more power than expected but nice and scale. She rolled to right a bit had to trim and get her high. We recorded video I will put it on YouTube today.
Landing was perfect, she slowed down nicely with half flaps, just need a little elevator mix but no biggie, I actually almost landed with the gear up, being nervous, so as I approached powered up and did a go around, landed her perfect. Overall the airplane felt like it needed at least half throttle to stay in the air, not too much of a floater.

Overall great show plane to have, with only a few people around the park the C130 caught everyone’s attention at the field. I flew her for almost 5 mins with a zippy 2200 60c and the meter read 14%. I’m gonna try a 2700 for more flight time.

[Arron yeate]

The better value and just as good battery is the one from ChinaHobbyLine. With that Panther, it'll work but could be slightly nose heavy but this is not a bad thing. This plane can fly well a bit nose heavy.
You won't see TX setup with HobbyKing planes. You plug things in as they are labelled. IE, throttle to throttle, AIL to AIL, etc. Do the throttle calibration as you should on any new plane. Follow the recommendations in the downloaded manual for throws and flaps. Expo is a personal thing and you should get a feel for what you like. I can't remember if the manual suggests any ELE compensation for flaps but if you use a slow down for deployment and use them as the plane slows down, you shouldn't need any compensation. Rudder mix is another personal thing. Most people learn to fly with rudder on a banked turn and don't dial in a mix. Just remember, this is not a "beginner" plane.

Yeah i may look at the china version and order a few. I will be learning with a cessna182 style electric plane. And build the herc fully ready and just display it u till im ready confidence wise. Ill be building it as this RAF style herc c130. Ive not seen one like this yet.