Official Black Horse 2280mm F4U Corsair thread

[TwistedGrin]

Taxi test and general inspection at the field......found my throttle cut needed tweaking on transmitter settings....the landing gear showed no signs of weakness running up and down the field. I'll get the maiden in as soon as I get some much needed flight time logged as soon as these blasted winds and rain pass.

The covering design works for me......I had never observed it in the open and at the field in the sun. It looks great.

TwistedGrin

[davegee]

TwistedGrin how do you feel about the weathered covering? I've heard both ends. Cheesy to very cool.

I'm also disappointed in the "cartoonish" weathering patterns. For my money, I would much prefer it had been clean to where I could add my own weathering techniques. But that's just me. I'm not buying one, at least at this point. I like its size and it looks good in the air. If someone likes the way it looks, more power to him.

davegee

[TwistedGrin]

No maiden yet.....I would like to have a couple days in a row where I am able to get my flight skills in top shape and of course have good conditions for this new bird. The winds have been too high and very erratic for an extroidinary long time this year......I have many flights on record in years past compared to this year.

I have triple checked the CG with my battery placement and prop spinner set up several times now....so the aircraft at least should be ready to go

I keep looking for recent video or comments anywhere for this aircraft.......does not seem to be very many with the latest version of this Plywood Carbon Fiber sandwhich ARF other than this video from 2021:

https://youtu.be/fYSEGaXIRSA

TwistedGrin

[TwistedGrin]

Most purchasers of larger balsa birds choose not to post on forum threads.

They'll read posts for a sense of quality or hints and tips from others though.

The Squawk isn't bad, but some forums are awash with "experts" willing to pounce on those that post.

Yep - I agree to all three points
TG

[Twowingtj]

Most purchasers of larger balsa birds choose not to post on forum threads.

They'll read posts for a sense of quality or hints and tips from others though.

The Squawk isn't bad, but some forums are awash with "experts" willing to pounce on those that post.

[TwistedGrin]

Interesting there are only a couple of these ARF's left in stock.......nearly no activity on this thread and no new UTube flight video.......I am still waiting on a workable weather window for my maiden so just looking for digital content to fill the gap

TwistedGrin

[TwistedGrin]

Regarding the Blackhorse Corsair weathering......the photo attached shows the Hanger 9 Ki-43 (Magnificent Model) with it's preprinted livery.

Some people complained the coloring of the Oscar is unrealistic.....I find it super cool exotic and absolutely love it.

In my own world I am pleased with the contrasting finish of the Blackhorse Corsair against the Hanger 9 Ki-43 and the underbelly of te Blackhorse DO-335.

TwistedGrin

[TwistedGrin]

TwistedGrin how do you feel about the weathered covering? I've heard both ends. Cheesy to very cool.

I think it's sorta "cartoonish".....perhaps.....but I have not had it fully assembled at the field yet....and not flown yet so my opinion is not yet fully vetted yet. It did NOT deter me from purchasing at all. In fact I would rather have the printed weathering as is than single monochrome coloration.

I have seen plenty of other covered Corsair models that were plain single colorations that are clean ....too clean. They are lacking any color contrast other than the tail and wing tip colors. I would rather have the pre-printed BH over those.

On the other hand I do like the photos of the Phoenix 60cc coloration pattern in comparison....however it's a completely different color...but the weathering appears to be more realistic.

Last thoughts....I am thinking it will show very well in flight.....so I am looking forward to seeing what this weathering looks like compared to my gasser buddies flying same sized Corsairs in competitions...both on the ground and in the air.

TwistedGrin

[Aros]

TwistedGrin how do you feel about the weathered covering? I've heard both ends. Cheesy to very cool.

[TwistedGrin]

Storage challenges.....PVC balance rack. Uses the wing spar tube as a balance catch, spinner resting on high density foam block. 1inch PVC with easy acces.....a wooden dowel goes through the wing tube and held captive in the PVC frame with a small wire nail. The frame is only meant to hold the model balanced while resting on the propnut. This is NOT for transport.

[TwistedGrin]

Ya - I followed your lead and measurement for a base line to confirm .....I too will fly about 6-7min per flight. Let the batteries, ESC and motor cool down between flights

Had to triple check my numbers to cut the motor mount extensions right....after moving the cowling forward as desired....then find the blasted bolts with enought threads to work correctly. Lots of process there for a minimal task - LOL

Looks good and proper.....now

Thanks again for posting up !!

TwistedGrin

[Rccen44]

Your cowl appears to be spaced about like mine. My gas radial does not get hot at all. Granted, I don't fly 15 minute flights, I tend to fly 5 or 6 minutes maximum.

[TwistedGrin]

OK ...measure 10times at midnight and 10times again at 10:00am then drill....then go find new bolts with long enough threads and new blind nuts to match the bolts.

Thank goodness for the local farm implement hardware feed store...both Lowes and HomeDepot failed me....had to change out from metric to SAE and from fine thread to corse thread.....but I got it done without chewing up the internal plastic cowl mounts.

I don't have enough motor clearance to have the prop very far out from the cowling face as this 60cc electric motor will grind on the faux motor backside.... the new cowling spacing is matched again with the motor prop offset.

I do like the space that is now open to pull some airflow.....good as can be for the Texas triple digit dawg days of summer now

I chose to fill in the original cowl mounting holes with flathead screws backed with popcicle stick wood on the inside to help hold them in.

All that I need now is for the prop nut to arrive and then triple check the CG.....wondering if I will see any difference with the motor forward about an inch

TwistedGrin

[TwistedGrin]

10:4 Thanks for these photos and measurments RCCN44......

I removed my prop...pulled the cowling forward .23mm/.9inch and I like the gap spacing much better...looks like some air can now pass through. Your prop clearance is very close to what mine will be if I move everything forward. I am making plans to make this adjustment. Hate to drill new holes in the cowling...but can probably hide the original holes with filler and paint.

I feel a little "short" for not realizing this during my initial set up....would rather fly cool than not...so the adjustment is justified.

Thanks again sir!

TwistedGrin
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[Rccen44]

My cowl is an inch from the hatch and my prop has about 3/4 of an inch clearance between it and the cowl.
Corsairs always seem to have a lot of prop to cowl clearance.

[TwistedGrin]

I just discovered that I have my motor or Prop set up a little shorter to most photos I see. The GP60-180KV motor is pretty long....too long for the motor and the larger motor box supplied with the kit.....therefore I had to use the shorter motor box mount and cut my own motor mount extensions.....I could have made my motor mount extensions a little longer perhaps. My cowling is dead even with the front of the forward hatch line....so I figure I am set back a little shorter most perhaps!

Looks like I can go about 1.96inches further out perphaps by cuttting some longer motor mount extensions

Not sure if this will affect flight performance or not

TwistedGrin

[Aros]

Updtate on my F4U-Corsair prop hub....True Turn (Wendy) knew exactly what I had...even double checked that the XOAR PJN prop for electric is smaller diameter than the standard "Gas" XOAR prop. She stated the 4-bolt E-Flite Power 360 prop hub is same as DLE/DA 4bolt prop spacing and pattern. She is handing my order to the shop to crank one out today maybe....that's called expertise, knowledge and true customer suport!!

I have used Tru-Turn several times for custom hubs and they are fantastic. Worth the price. Wendy is excellent.

[TwistedGrin]

TwistedGrin Here is a link to the spinner I used on the 60cc electric set-up on the Gilmore. It should be the same colt pattern as the Admiral GP60. It should look right for the Corsair. It's as good as the Tru-turn IMHO.

https://www.zyhobby.com/products/175...mld35-us-stock

Wow 10:4 and thanks Twowingtj....this aluminum set up should be much lighter than the TrueTurn......I can use the TrueTurn as a back up plan or sell it to the other fellas in our club who have the Corsair's

TwistedGrin

[TwistedGrin]

Updtate on my F4U-Corsair prop hub....True Turn (Wendy) knew exactly what I had...even double checked that the XOAR PJN prop for electric is smaller diameter than the standard "Gas" XOAR prop. She stated the 4-bolt E-Flite Power 360 prop hub is same as DLE/DA 4bolt prop spacing and pattern. She is handing my order to the shop to crank one out today maybe....that's called expertise, knowledge and true customer suport!!

[Twowingtj]

TwistedGrin Here is a link to the spinner I used on the 60cc electric set-up on the Gilmore. It should be the same colt pattern as the Admiral GP60. It should look right for the Corsair. It's as good as the Tru-turn IMHO.

https://www.zyhobby.com/products/175...mld35-us-stock