New "compatible" Heng Long 6.0 IR receiver test results

[Prowler901]

Downloaded and printed. Thanks!
I have two IR units ordered. One for my Bulldog. And, I'll be ordering a Panther G as soon as they arrive.

[Vaseline]

I mention it in the thingiverse summary, but I didnt step the inside of the rectangular tube so the ears and clip things on the side of the plug have to be trimmed off in order to fit, the tolerances are pretty snug, but you might want to use a drop of CA to abuse proof it. The disk is 32mms in diameter, and its overall 28mms high. (based on rough measuring the Walker drivers hatch) but I figured it could be cut/sanded back to fit anything you care to, with 2mm pilot holes so you can screw it rather than gluing it in to make it easier to remove if you need to.

[Beeg]

I designed a universal 3D printed riser tower to set the 5 pin plug into for mounting LegoDEI's receivers in tanks with really low hatch floors/ cupolas. .STL found here https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4384598

Good stuff Vaseline. Thanks!

[Vaseline]

I designed a universal 3D printed riser tower to set the 5 pin plug into for mounting LegoDEI's receivers in tanks with really low hatch floors/ cupolas. .STL found here https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4384598

[Rubicon99]

Bump because I have been receiving a few questions about this now that the next tank shipment is due in any day now.

[Beeg]

This is my install of the LegoDEI Heng Long compatible IR sensor in the Heng Long M4A3 Sherman.
Many thanks to Rubicon99 for his advice on the install.


Remove stock 3-pin socket and board.


Remove one of the existing screw pillers and reshape the slot to fit a JST-XH, 5-pin plug.


Install the new 5pin plugs all the way in. I used CA glue to secure it. Not sure how long CA will hold
but it's fairly easy access if I need to re-glue, use another adhesive or mechanical strap.


With the plug inserted all the way it works out to the perfect height so the sunshade just
clears the hatch hinge. I colored two of the sockets to aid in plugging in the IR sensor correctly.

After a little sanding and painting the new LegoDEI IR sensor almost looks like a part of the tank.
The sunshade pictured is the 360 degree model vs the "Tamiya" quadrant style sunshade.

[LegoDEI]

Well, I received a LegoDEI IR receiver yesterday and here is my review: It is not prime time Plug and Play ready!! I received a nice looking "mushroom" with no instructions, no diagrams, no wiring and no connectors.

Not quite sure what you're going at there; if you even looked at the listing you would see the wiring diagram is the 4th picture, and it is quite straight forward. Furthermore, the day I shipped your order out, I also sent you a message stating the wiring was coming in a separate package. Please don't bash on my product because you couldn't be bothered to read the instructions or your email.

[Beeg]

I bought for my HL M1A2 Abrams and as an Ol Timer who still thinks a light switch is an electronic miracle, I could either use some help or else e-bay it .....

I''ll take it off your hands for a deep discount! You take paypal?

[Alpha]

The first page of this thread has lots of information and photos showing what must be done in sequence to adapt this system to an HL tank. I don't have one yet so unfortunately I can't contribute to this guide as others have. In Post #12, Rubicon99 says

I will state these are NOT PLUG & PLAY direct fit to the HL 6.0 battle system external IR plug port. It’s not hard to change out the wires and plug, but it is not something I would recommend for the novice with no RC “hobby” experience.

[Rubicon99]

Well, I received a LegoDEI IR receiver yesterday and here is my review: It is not prime time Plug and Play ready!! I received a nice looking "mushroom" with no instructions, no diagrams, no wiring and no connectors.

Please reread this thread it was stated a number of times it is NOT “plug and play” so this should have come as no surprise. It is a hobby grade unit that REQUIRES installation. The installation is not hard and can be easily done by anyone with even a modest modeling or r/c building background.

Only the 6.0 HL version should be coming with mounting lead wires. Make sure you ordered the correct one or that you were sent the correct one. There are a few versions for different control systems.

Take a look at the thread and you will find information sources on how to install it. I posted a pictorial install on my Instagram @ fsttanks and noted this a few times over the the last several days. Installation is NOT a hard procedure especially on the 6.0 Abrams.

I will also double check with the supplier to make sure all the HL 6.0 versions are infact shipping with wires and this has not changed from what I was told would be happening.

Also you can PM LegoDEI directly he is a member here.

[Narly]

I bought for my HL M1A2 Abrams and as an Ol Timer who still thinks a light switch is an electronic miracle, I could either use some help or else e-bay it .....

[Beeg]

Well, I received a LegoDEI IR receiver yesterday and here is my review: It is not prime time Plug and Play ready!! I received a nice looking "mushroom" with no instructions, no diagrams, no wiring and no connectors.

There are posts in this thread and folks here that can help with your install. And no, it is not plug n play for Heng Long tanks. It was easy enough to install in my HL Sherman but it does take a little tinkering. Once you install one and understand the wiring it all falls into place. Any particular tank you want to put it on? I'm sure there's someone here that can help. "Ribucon99" is the guru for these sorts of things... The only gripe I had was I thought the 3D printing was pretty crude. But, if it works and a little sanding and painting then I'm happy!

[Narly]

Well, I received a LegoDEI IR receiver yesterday and here is my review: It is not prime time Plug and Play ready!! I received a nice looking "mushroom" with no instructions, no diagrams, no wiring and no connectors.

[Beeg]

Disregard..

[Rubicon99]

Rubicon, earlier your mentioned testing high-output IR emitters on the LegoDEI reciever, did you notice a significant difference using those vs. the HL supplied, and if so, what do I need to search for; "High output IR emitter"?

I tested the HP bulbs to see if they would work with the 6.0 system and if the system provided sufficient power for the bulbs to achieve their full potential. The answer was yes to both.

The maximum range with a HP bulb to hit a target with the LegoDEI receiver in moderate overcast or afternoon sunlight is rather far ~150ft and in some cases out as far as 200ft. With the stock HL 6.0 IR bulb the results were just a little less. Compared to the industry standard Tamiya stock IR bulb, both the HL and HP bulb easily outperform the Tamiya stock bulb. This is true not only for the LegiDEI receiver but also the Tamiya receiver.

By comparison the Tamiya receiver is a bit more sensitive then the LegoDEI to receiving hits with the HP bulbs at ranges past 200ft. But I have never been in a fight that was quite that far away. We tested at that range just for the fun of it and on static targets.

100ft is pretty darn far for a tank on tank moving fight. It is hard to aim that accurately on the move when you can hardly see you advisory. The goal for the LegoDEI receiver was 75ft and it easily does this in all lighting conditions with all the bulbs tested.

I run the HP bulbs in most of my older tanks but for the new 6.0 HL tanks I do not bother installing them unless a bulb “burns out”.

If you want the little extra range here is where I buy my HP bulbs.

[Vaseline]

Rubicon, earlier your mentioned testing high-output IR emitters on the LegoDEI reciever, did you notice a significant difference using those vs. the HL supplied, and if so, what do I need to search for; "High output IR emitter"?

[Beeg]

If you need connectors, they are standard JST "XH", 2.5m. I get all my servo wires and connectors for my airplanes from Henson Hobbies. Always good to deal with and fast shipping.

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/products/connectors/250mm_X57/

..and these JST BEC work for your 2 wire connections.

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/products/connectors/miscconnectors/

[Rubicon99]

Great do they supply a pin out diagram as it looks as if it will sit on a 5 pin lipo balance plug. Any recommendations on which IR emitter to get ?

Honestly your best and most simple route given you need everything is to buy the full Tamiya battle until that has all you need for your IBU system. It’s about $100 and there are some on EBay or the AAF.com museum store has them too. Once you have the Tamiya base installed and you still want the low profile LegoDEI receiver it is an easy plug and play swapping of the Tamiya receiver for the LegoDEI one.

Note: The Tamiya battle until is NOT compatible with the Heng Long 6.0 control system programming. They can fight each other only because the beam sequence is “the same” not because of how it is interpreted.

[Arcright]

That looks like the right one.

Note: This is only a receiver not an IR beam projector.

Great do they supply a pin out diagram as it looks as if it will sit on a 5 pin lipo balance plug. Any recommendations on which IR emitter to get ?

[Rubicon99]

So if I get the one below will I be able to battle Heng Long system new and old ?

Sorry for all the questions not had an RC Tank before.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/7103...active_2&crt=1

That looks like the right one.

You will be able to battle(receive hits) with Tamiya, Clark, IBU and 6.0/1 Heng Long tanks. Please note thought that you will need the base to plug it into. Most people using an IBU control board use the Tamiya base and wires which are a bit different then the 6.0 Heng Long ones. Also you will need to install an IR bulb and wiring to your IBU. Normally these can be purchased through Tamiya.com 1/16 tank parts section but they are not taking orders because of the current health issues set upon the world by China.

Note: This is only a receiver not an IR beam projector.