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Just saw some prototype pics from the Coolbank booth. Looks like an M5, an M8, a Crusader, and a Hetzer on those shelves.
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Returning to "rumors of future releases"....Coolbank Wang recently FB posted the Churchill would be available "around the end of January". Shall we say, he's been wrong before, but that's the latest rumor. The specific problem about that prediction is the start of CNY. If product isn't available by then, it'll be March I imagine. He also predicted the Stuart would be available in April. Don't anybody hold their breath, but you never know.
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My first tank was a VS PRO tiger 1 back in 05, I was in grade 4. WW2 stuff is more popular and will be for some time so makes sense most of the releases are from that era.
Some diversity would be nice but what are you as a business gonna chase after? The hearts of a few people or the bag?
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A 14 year old boy, who joined our club at the November event, bought a panther as his first tank.
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Every time I talk to people who want to get into the r/c tank hobby, it’s always WW2 tanks that they think of. The most popular and mentioned? The Tiger I! Everyone’s gotta start somewhere.
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I find that surprising but since I guess kids are not buying these the adults are possibly more into the nostalgia of wwii. I still think cold war US and Nato tanks are desperately needed like the m60. Still need an M48 and leopard 1 to round out the cold war. AMX 30 would be good too.
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Amazingly WW2 tanks sell much better than modern ones according to Heng Long. Modern ones are bigger and more expensive to manufacture as the injection molds have to be bigger using more plastic.
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ETA - JMHO, as I’d gladly buy 1/16th RC Matilda II, Valentine, M13/40, PzKw II, R35/H35, Somua S35, Char B, BMP
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One advantage to their choice of Churchill is the tank served in Korea too, not just WWII. Same for the upcoming M24, which even went into Viet Nam.
That said, more modern AFVs would have wider appeal.
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The Churchill would not have been my first choice for a British WW2 tank, I would have gone for a Cromwell (yes Hooben makes one but it is expensive and unreliable) as it had a much better service record and was used more extensive in the war. But I understand the why of the Churchill being produced since a good majority of it was already designed and in production with OKMO. It was just easier to get out quickly.
Personal I am waiting on the M24 Chaffee which unfortunately is running behind schedule. Hopefully all the delays will be worked out before the Chinese New Year. If not it will be summer of 24 before we see it.
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I for one am tired of so many wwii tanks being produced that will likely have low sales, especially one like this,. Our hobby needs more Cold War tanks and the modern stuff that is not US and Russian.
we finally got the M60 series and the Bradley from TD . But we need to see Leopard 1, AMX 30, Type 74 and some modern stuff like Leclerc. Possibly even the M48 or an M5 Stewart which I think would sell better than that old British tank.
Im thinking about what is marketable across the world market in large numbers. I just feel like that tank might sell a few in the US and a bunch in the UK and that’s it.
I ponder how popular the TD Centurion actually is, and many that wanted one already bought the Tamiya release or Haya.
Low sales due to a poor choice of subject could lead to them stopping producing new tanks because they may not be aware they picked a poor marketable subject. Especially when your paying 200 bucks for the shipping on each tank.
I mean no offense to anyone that actually wants to buy this tank, I just think it’s not very marketable. In my own opinion I would love to see an M47 produced as it was used all over the world, but I just don’t think it would sell well and I say that when I talk to tank Reps.sure a few would sell here in the US and maybe Germany but I think that’s it.
But they are goin for it so I hope they sell enough to make it a good project and keep them making new tanks. Go get one guys.
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I had a talk with some Chinese lawyers visiting the US a while back. Long story short, "intellectual property" is not a legal concept there, so using someone else's idea is not illegal or immoral. Yep, just different.
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The Chinese do things very differently then we in the west do. I stopped trying to figure out the "way of what they do".Originally posted by keilau View PostIf I were Tongde, I would be very, very worry about intellectual property being stolen. Never heard of a product development department to allow any "hang around". It sounds like Coolbank Wang is in good term with Tongde and allowed his name to be used on a line of Tongde product.
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One could speculate for days on what peoples relationships are with each other and still get it wrong. On the manufacturing side there are people who I've encountered who are dishonest or are just middle men in other industries. Not saying that's what this is, but you really don't know what the full story is unless you know all sides. People bounce around companies all the time over there just like they do here, so the knowledge doesn't stay proprietary. IP is looked at differently in China to put it politely.
As a consumer, I'm just glad we have choices and I hope they can hold up their end as a brand.
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If I were Tongde, I would be very, very worry about intellectual property being stolen. Never heard of a product development department to allow any "hang around". It sounds like Coolbank Wang is in good term with Tongde and allowed his name to be used on a line of Tongde product.Originally posted by Rubicon99 View PostHe is a "hang around" at their plant, but does not have a "say" in design or production, so we are told (?).
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