Official RotorScale AS350 Alpine Yellow and Red 450 Size Helicopter Discussion Thread

[RotorHead19]

So I disassembled the blade grips and greased them and I still have a lot of play in the blade grips so bad that I can't get zero pitch correctly with my Brain2, are you guys experiencing the same problems and if so how are you correcting this? Out at the blade tips its exaggerated and have 15mm where I can move the blade tip up from where it's resting. Pulling them horizontally its good, but I can move the grip left/right, up/down, when looking into the blade grip where the screw is it looks like the housing where the bearings are is too big for the bearings and can see a gap all around when moving it.

[RotorHead19]

Happy 4th to you Chief thanks for serving our Country, my dad is also retired military, 22 years AF. Happy 4th to everyone else as well!!!!!:Stars::Stars::Stars:

[Chief58D]

Alpha

Thanks for posting those updates!
Guess it's time for me to finally get my 3D printer online and start printing parts!! :P
Appreciate all the GREAT feedback and support from all the folks that have chimed in on this thread :Cool:


Happy July 4th everyone!!

RR

[RotorHead19]

Hi Chief58D, as you requested, attached are the adjusted files for the AS350. The LED mounts are now affixed with screws instead of glue.

If you had any questions about specific 3DPUP files, where they go, or how they're attached, just post and one of us can chime in. I titled the files with a prefix that states which general area, then you can cross reference these photos to confirm the exact location.
The LEDs install very simply. More detail in one of my earlier posts on Page 1. Now, both belly LEDs and the Searchlight are screw-on, and the searchlight is also adjustable for angle.

I'm still working on the exhaust and static winch.

I just love what you did to this it looks fantastic! So how do I go about getting these great add on scale features? I dont have a 3D printer and have zero knowledge of 3D printing. Is there a way for a person to be able to purchase these? Also how do you wire it for the LED's? I am totally new to doing any of this scale work, but have been flying and building helis for about 4 years. What kind of paint did you use to do the detail work on the hinges and rivits? Thanks so much:Cool:

[Alpha]

I'm seriously considering adding this to my next order as part of my re-entry into electric helicopters -
and i would really like to scale this one up a bit!

Were the STL files for the 3DPUP parts Alpha mentioned ever made available?

Thanks!
RR

Hi Chief58D, as you requested, attached are the adjusted files for the AS350. The LED mounts are now affixed with screws instead of glue.

If you had any questions about specific 3DPUP files, where they go, or how they're attached, just post and one of us can chime in. I titled the files with a prefix that states which general area, then you can cross reference these photos to confirm the exact location.





The LEDs install very simply. More detail in one of my earlier posts on Page 1. Now, both belly LEDs and the Searchlight are screw-on, and the searchlight is also adjustable for angle.

https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc-helicopters-and-multi-rotor/helicopters/156477-official-rotorscale-as350-alpine-yellow-and-red-450-size-helicopter-discussion-thread?p=187179#post187179

I'm still working on the exhaust and static winch.

[F106DeltaDart]

What size is the motor shaft, 3.17? I found one, as I would like to put one on mine as well, but didn't want to purchase it yet until I new the shaft size. Thanks:Cool:

Yes, 3.17mm.

Ridgerunner, thanks for the correction on the mechanics, my mistake.

[RotorHead19]

On my B222, I installed an 11 tooth pinion on the Gartt 1800kV motor and am running between 2200 and 2800 rpm on the main rotor (I like running lowish headspeeds).

What size is the motor shaft, 3.17? I found one, as I would like to put one on mine as well, but didn't want to purchase it yet until I new the shaft size. Thanks:Cool:

[RotorHead19]

No, the Rotorscale mechanics are a clone of the Trex 450 Sport V1 - (converted to FBL - and is likely made by Tarot). I researched this pretty thoroughly. You can find the Sport V1 Align manual (listed as: "TREX 450 SPORT FB Super Combo") on this page of Align manuals provided by enterprise hobbies:

Thanks for this link, I understand alot better now! I kept seeing the two gears main and the autorotation, thinking this is a torque tube why do they show a belt, and now from the manual I see how they do the belt system, makes sense now:Whew: The newer helis have come along way, I also noticed these don't have thrust bearings in the tail grips, I started helis about 4 years ago, all my heli's have a front belt pulley, and thrust bearings, I wish they made a scale fuselage for my 470LP that would be really awesome!:)I am going to look at it when it arrives this Friday, and see if the main frame of the 470 will fit in the fuselage, I may need to cut the boom down and use the 325 blades or maybe a bit longer, the 470 is a 380 heli its close and may be able to modify to fit, I also may be able to cut the slot in the tail piece longer to accommodate the longer boom of the 470, we shall see.

[RotorHead19]

On my B222, I installed an 11 tooth pinion on the Gartt 1800kV motor and am running between 2200 and 2800 rpm on the main rotor (I like running lowish headspeeds).

Thanks again! I am with you on this, I also like the lower head speeds, makes sense on a scale heli.:Cool:

[ridgerunner]

Hi ridgerunner, what head speeds are you running with this? I am installing a HobbyWing 60A V4 Esc in mine though, I have one in my Trex 470LP and love it. Thanks

On my B222, I installed an 11 tooth pinion on the Gartt 1800kV motor and am running between 2200 and 2800 rpm on the main rotor (I like running lowish headspeeds).

[ridgerunner]

... The mechanics are a clone of the Trex 450 SeV2. ...

No, the Rotorscale mechanics are a clone of the Trex 450 Sport V1 - (converted to FBL - and is likely made by Tarot). I researched this pretty thoroughly. You can find the Sport V1 Align manual (listed as: "TREX 450 SPORT FB Super Combo") on this page of Align manuals provided by enterprise hobbies:

[RotorHead19]

9 packs through my AS-350 so far today (I've lost track of the flight count, but have over an hour and a half airtime on the "odometer" timer in my Taranis). After a few more packs this evening, it will be time to move on and start focusing on setting up the 450 Airwolf!

Hi ridgerunner, what head speeds are you running with this? I am installing a HobbyWing 60A V4 Esc in mine though, I have one in my Trex 470LP and love it. Thanks

[RotorHead19]

Welcome rotorhead! The mechanics are a clone of the Trex 450 SeV2. All of the servos are 333hz and 1520us.

Great, Thank you for the fast reply, glad to be a part of this forum!:Cool:

[F106DeltaDart]

Hi, I just purchased this heli, and was wondering what air frame is this, Align 450 Sport? I will also be using an Ikon Mini2 for the FBL what are the refresh rates Hz and center pulse for the servos.Thanks in advance!

Welcome rotorhead! The mechanics are a clone of the Trex 450 SeV2. All of the servos are 333hz and 1520us.

[RotorHead19]

Hi, I just purchased this heli, and was wondering what air frame is this, Align 450 Sport? I will also be using an Ikon Mini2 for the FBL what are the refresh rates Hz and center pulse for the servos.Thanks in advance!

[Chief58D]

Cool - thanks!

[F106DeltaDart]

Can anyone recommend a decent readily-available swashplate leveling tool that works well with these Rotorscale 450's?
Seems the Align tools are getting to be in short supply.

Thanks!

Here you go Chief!

http://www.aligntrexstore.com/450-Swashplate-Leveler-H45191-_p_2098.html

[Chief58D]

Can anyone recommend a decent readily-available swashplate leveling tool that works well with these Rotorscale 450's?
Seems the Align tools are getting to be in short supply.

Thanks!

[Chief58D]

Hey Chief, if you are planning on scaling out the 350 and keeping the stock scheme, I’ve still got a set of snowshoes and nose mirrors that I made for mine before I redid the paint scheme on mine to a Police version. If you want, they’re yours.

Awesome!! PM on the way...:Cool:

[F106DeltaDart]

Hi Alpha -
Thanks for getting back so quickly!

I'll likely take on the scaling effort after flying the AS350 "stock" a bit, so if you think you might have time in the near future to modify your STL files for screw-on bases, I can certainly wait a bit.
Also, I am very interested in adding the lights you have pictured in your photo, so if you have any recommendations for specific LED's and/or lighting controllers to use, it would be most appreciated.

RR

Hey Chief, if you are planning on scaling out the 350 and keeping the stock scheme, I’ve still got a set of snowshoes and nose mirrors that I made for mine before I redid the paint scheme on mine to a Police version. If you want, they’re yours.