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Sorry about your crash.Originally posted by Mad Baron View Post
I dont own the 26 myself but i understand dynam did a poor job on this kit. I think the main issue that contributed to your crash might be the horizontal stabilizer, it requires some additional positive incidence to fly right...which is BS imho
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I tried aerotow with the Beaver yesterday. I prepped the tow release mechanism but did did not need it as all went to plan. This thing is a great work horse just like its 1 to 1. :)My first time towing a sailplane! I have always wanted to try this and today was my opportunity. It went well and makes me consider attempting towing a banne...There are hundreds of RC aviation videos viewable here; WBRC
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Proof positive that you can, in fact, over power a plane.
The 1/3 scale Fokker D-VIII is no more. The airframe specs called for 45cc to 80cc. I wanted to use as close to scale diameter prop as I could get. A 100cc electric motor would spin a 27" prop and that looked good, so 100cc it was.
After several flights of taking off at half throttle (not bad for a 48lb plane) and cruising at one third throttle, I decided that it was time to explore a broader throttle range. Maintaining straight and level flight, the throttle was inched up. All was going well. The airframe was stable although much faster than scale.
Nearing the final minute of the flight time for the batteries, we'll try full throttle for a moment. Upon nearing full throttle, aparently the horizontal stab became frieghtened and decided it was time to abandon ship, taking all horizonal AND vertical control surfaces with it. Nothing left to do at that point, but pull the throttle back and watch.
As well built as the plane was, the 37" x 30" horizontal tailplane had too much force put upon it, between high P factor and surface area resistance. It did not break, but all mounting points were ripped from the aft fuselage.
This was the first time experiencing a major airframe failure. An expensive, in terms of time and money, lesson learned. Just because you have a lot of power on tap, doesn't mean you have to, or should use it.
It's all good fellow Squawkers. I had to kind of lick my wounds for the past week before I could post about it.
I'm liking the looks of the 92.5" Black Horse Gilmore Red Lion. That might ease the pain and fill the void in the hangar.
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TWTJ, Very sorry to read of the accident. I like that you're taking it in stride and the Black Horse Gilmore is a beautiful tribute to the Fokker, I think. :) Best, LBOriginally posted by Twowingtj View PostProof positive that you can, in fact, over power a plane. The 1/3 scale Fokker D-VIII is no more. It's all good fellow Squawkers. I had to kind of lick my wounds for the past week before I could post about it. I'm liking the looks of the 92.5" Black Horse Gilmore Red Lion. That might ease the pain and fill the void in the hangar."I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."~Lucky B*st*rd~
"Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."~Anonymous~
AMA#116446
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I hate that you lost such a beautiful plane but I love how you're taking it and that you are already planning to replace it...great post :Cool:Originally posted by Twowingtj View PostProof positive that you can, in fact, over power a plane.
The 1/3 scale Fokker D-VIII is no more. The airframe specs called for 45cc to 80cc. I wanted to use as close to scale diameter prop as I could get. A 100cc electric motor would spin a 27" prop and that looked good, so 100cc it was.
After several flights of taking off at half throttle (not bad for a 48lb plane) and cruising at one third throttle, I decided that it was time to explore a broader throttle range. Maintaining straight and level flight, the throttle was inched up. All was going well. The airframe was stable although much faster than scale.
Nearing the final minute of the flight time for the batteries, we'll try full throttle for a moment. Upon nearing full throttle, aparently the horizontal stab became frieghtened and decided it was time to abandon ship, taking all horizonal AND vertical control surfaces with it. Nothing left to do at that point, but pull the throttle back and watch.
As well built as the plane was, the 37" x 30" horizontal tailplane had too much force put upon it, between high P factor and surface area resistance. It did not break, but all mounting points were ripped from the aft fuselage.
This was the first time experiencing a major airframe failure. An expensive, in terms of time and money, lesson learned. Just because you have a lot of power on tap, doesn't mean you have to, or should use it.
It's all good fellow Squawkers. I had to kind of lick my wounds for the past week before I could post about it.
I'm liking the looks of the 92.5" Black Horse Gilmore Red Lion. That might ease the pain and fill the void in the hangar.
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Could have used your help with raking all of the debris onto the old king size bed sheet to carry her back in LOL. There will be a replacement of some kind,Originally posted by OV10 View PostTony.........I am so glad that I wasn't there to witness the demise........watching me blubber over your pain wouldn't of been pretty :P
Now pick an airframe that can handle that 100cc motor;)
Thanks TI and LB.
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Ugh soooo sorry to see that TWTJ! :( Beautiful plane!My YouTube RC videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda
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Wow TJ, such a great looking plane and we're all guilty of wanting to see what full throttle looks like so we're just as vulnerable to having the same thing happen.
I got the P-40 and the Pitts out today. Did quite a bit of minor repairs to the P-40 and she was great to fly. Fearing to lose another prop, I filled in the quarter areas ( on the back of the spinner the plastic ribs divide it into four quarters with a circular rib at about half the diameter, you'll know what I mean when you look at it) with Gorilla Glue, let it expand and trimmed it the balanced the prop. I figure that should add some strength at a minimum of additional weight.
The Pitts hasn't been up since last season and I figured it was about time. Flew her once and was not pleased with the Prop Torque, so landed it and planned shim the motor to the starboard side to help alleviate some of the problem. Got the prop and cowling off and looked up inside the fuse only to see that there are 4 screws that would seem to bolt the motor mount together, one was ready to fall out! I didn't even know they were there. Needless to say I tightened them up and add a small shim to both the port side screws to angle the motor slightly to starboard. Tried a higher speed taxi in front of the house and it seems to really help. I'll take her out again on Wednesday and see.
Team Gross!
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So sad to hear of that, Tony. The DVIII is such a rarity and quite noble on the flight line.
Makes me reserve temptation to do the same with the Ryan. Have not used full throttle yet, even on take off she only needs a bit of coaxing to lift off at 3/4 throttle and climbs real brisk to safe zone, which 2 mistakes high for me right now.
Will look forward to seeing the replacement(s?)!
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xviper I am going to steal that sailplane right under you. Watch your back! ;)My YouTube RC videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda
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OK. ;) I haven't been down to your area for some years. I used to go once a year on my sports car club road trips to the Olympic peninsula - my all time best trips. Know a bunch of great people in and around Seattle. If I go again before I get too old and I bring my planes, I'll keep the Mystique locked up with a spy cam on it. LOL Of all my planes, props and jets, the Mystique has been with me the longest. It just never gets old. I've acquired several other sailers but none have garnered my favor as much as this one. I think Horizon still sells it.Originally posted by Aros View Postxviper I am going to steal that sailplane right under you. Watch your back! ;)
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Well you have a warm bed in the Pacific Northwest if you ever need it, especially if you bring that Mystique along with you. LOLOriginally posted by xviper View PostOK. ;) I haven't been down to your area for some years. I used to go once a year on my sports car club road trips to the Olympic peninsula - my all time best trips. Know a bunch of great people in and around Seattle. If I go again before I get too old and I bring my planes, I'll keep the Mystique locked up with a spy cam on it. LOL Of all my planes, props and jets, the Mystique has been with me the longest. It just never gets old. I've acquired several other sailers but none have garnered my favor as much as this one. I think Horizon still sells it.
Even though she's not a T tail, I forgive that transgression because she is otherwise a gorgeous bird in every way. If you ever do lose your marbles and decide to sell her you had better come to me first!My YouTube RC videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda
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This is the time of year I did enjoy the NW.
But, gliders are alive and do well in the mornings here in AZ.
I have high hopes for the Electra conversion. Just about have all the Goldberg chased away. Turnigy motor arrived also.
I got a couple flights on the Ryan - still cannot land it worth ****...but figured out a few tweaks were still necessary. Seems my flying wires actually do hold some of the built in washout, and they need to go on the plane during assembly and not when she is resting on the wheels - something I got from the Instruction manual, but I built in the washout which was not called for in the plans.
Taking her out again tomorrow- maybe some more pics. Had a lot of fun with the Carbon Cub and one flight with the Cherokee- need some tweaks on the rudder / steering also.
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