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  • SanExup
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    • May 2020
    • 912
    • Western Wy.
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    #4061
    dahawk I'm reading the book, Holding the Line, The Naval Air Campaign in Korea by Thomas Cleaver. It's a fascinating book and discusses many planes and pilots of that time and the transition of naval air power post WW2. With US navy jets, my favorites are anything from the phantom to present. (The development of the real F35 pisses me off but I'd still own one, especially if they made a C variant.)

    But I do agree, and now that.i understand it's role.in navy aviation, I really do think a 90 mm F9f cougar would be outstanding!

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    • dahawk
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      • Jun 2013
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      #4062
      Bravo Zulu ! Agree and for Blue Angels fans, the Cougar would top off the list. I have a Bearcat A4, F4 and F/A- 18. Plus, there isn't one available in the 80 or 90 size. A potential big seller for MRC.
      Currently flying: Twin 80mm A-10, 80mm F5, 80mm A6, 70mm Yak-130, 70mm F-16v2,90mm Stinger 90, 70mmRC Lander F9F, Flightline F7F TigerCat, Phoenix 46 size Tucano, Flyzone L-39
      Out of Service: 80mm Mig-21,64mm F-35, 64mm F/A-18
      I Want: 80mm A-4, twin 80mm F4J Phantom

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      • wolpertinger
        Pilot ??

        • Dec 2016
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        #4063
        Originally posted by dahawk
        Keep it simple. A 90 mm F9F Panther / Cougar. A few livery options including Blue Angels.
        Totally agree with this..... A 90mm F9F panther and Cougar would be a great addition to lineup.

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        • Grossman56
          Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

          • Jun 2014
          • 7325
          • Cody, Wyoming
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          #4064
          Alphas friend Dante suggested an Avenger, which is a great airplane as its currently not been modeled. I believe I suggested that as well quite a while ago. Nevertheless, it would be something to see and the mods would be amazing.
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          BTW, that IS a P63 behind her, cool plane too.
          If anyone lives near Abbotsford BC, Canada, this particular Avenger was based at Abbotsford Airport as a Conair water bomber, turns out I've seen her fly a number of times up there at the airshow as a kid.

          Grossman56
          Team Gross!

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          • Gilatrout
            RC Pilot Addict

            • Dec 2016
            • 806
            • Albuquerque NM
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            #4065
            An avenger is on my must have.

            Motion, Alpha, I have an itch and budget to buy a new plane. I've been holding off because you are overdue for an announcement, but if something doesn't shake loose soon, I might have to scratch that itch elsewhere.

            What I'm saying is I have some money I want to give you.

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            • dahawk
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              • Jun 2013
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              • Keller,Texas
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              #4066
              Well the full scale flys good slow as shown at the Cocoa Beach air show.
              Currently flying: Twin 80mm A-10, 80mm F5, 80mm A6, 70mm Yak-130, 70mm F-16v2,90mm Stinger 90, 70mmRC Lander F9F, Flightline F7F TigerCat, Phoenix 46 size Tucano, Flyzone L-39
              Out of Service: 80mm Mig-21,64mm F-35, 64mm F/A-18
              I Want: 80mm A-4, twin 80mm F4J Phantom

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              • Gringotuerto
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                • Feb 2017
                • 409
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                #4067
                Originally posted by Gilatrout
                An avenger is on my must have.
                The real one has a reputation of being a horrible flyer. It was nicknamed the "Turkey", and here is an example article of a modern pilot's impression of "Turkey Wrestling". Sounds harrowing.

                http://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-new...m-avenger.html

                Of course there is no reason an electric foam model would have these same characteristics. I agree it would be a great model. Lots of opportunity to add things.

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                • 406PIlot
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                  • Nov 2020
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                  #4068
                  Originally posted by dahawk
                  Well the full scale flys good slow as shown at the Cocoa Beach air show.
                  You mean as it water landed?? It was pretty crazy to see the video of it.. the pilot was good!

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                  • Wild Man
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                    • Dec 2019
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                    • Rapid City, S.D.
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                    #4069
                    Originally posted by 406PIlot

                    You mean as it water landed?? It was pretty crazy to see the video of it.. the pilot was good!
                    I just watch the landing in the water on the news tonight. WOW he made a great emergency landing

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                    • SanExup
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                      • May 2020
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                      #4070
                      It was impressive! Bad enough you have to do a water landing. But also to contend with a populated beach.

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                      • TangoVector
                        High alpha wannabe

                        • Feb 2019
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                        • Leksand, Sweden
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                        #4071
                        Originally posted by SanExup
                        It was impressive! Bad enough you have to do a water landing. But also to contend with a populated beach.
                        Yeah, let's land near this populated beach with people in the water, not a further 100m out where the risk of hitting anyone is zero. It's the same as landing on highways, bad judgement. If you're flying a warbird you have signed up for some risk, bathing at a beach not so much.

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                        • MikeT
                          Here......Hold my beer.

                          • Jan 2016
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                          #4072
                          Originally posted by TangoVector

                          Yeah, let's land near this populated beach with people in the water, not a further 100m out where the risk of hitting anyone is zero. It's the same as landing on highways, bad judgement. If you're flying a warbird you have signed up for some risk, bathing at a beach not so much.
                          He nailed it. End of story.

                          Mike
                          \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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                          • SanExup
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                            #4073
                            Or it's just the good part, a positive outcome of that story. I agree that he nailed the water landing part. After seeing more footage and different angles, he was pretty close to people in the water. I doubt he had a life vest, so that was probably a component of his decision. He didn't cartwheel, but he could have. And then I also saw that someone presented footage of him trailing smoke at altitude with other airfields nearby. But youtube enthusiasts aren't the NTSB, I think we have snippets of the whole story. The thing I have always appreciated about aviation and incident evaluation, is that the outcome, positive or negative, doesn't negate all of the details and possibilities when analyzing a crash. Some people do everything right and die, some people do everything wrong and live. The water landing itself looked text book to me but he didn't get shot down. And I'm not part of the accident investigation. Just saying. I'm impressed. And I think the story just started really when he hit the water.

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                            • xviper
                              Hobby Squawk Regular

                              • Jan 2014
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                              • Calgary, Canada
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                              #4074
                              As I watched that news clip, I was thinking, "Heads are going to go flying everywhere". He just missed a few by mere feet.

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                              • Gringotuerto
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                                • Feb 2017
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                                #4075
                                Originally posted by SanExup
                                ... youtube enthusiasts aren't the NTSB,....
                                I sometimes type youtube comments, but if I ever run across a video on my actual field of expertise, I take one glace at the comment section and read all the idiocy and just think...."nope." No way am I going to engage and type a comment. It's much easier to summarize my impression when I don't actually understand the underlying details.

                                Anyway, whatever the reason, the end result is that youtube comment sections show a negative correlation between confidence and competence.

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                                • CF-105
                                  Arrowhead

                                  • Aug 2019
                                  • 140
                                  • Atlantic Canada
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                                  #4076
                                  Would love an Avenger! Preferably balsa tho, I'd need two... one in military colours, and another I'd redo in the markings of one of the forestry planes I worked beside about 30 years ago (I was just a lowly Cessna pilot).

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                                  • Biff767
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                                    • Sep 2017
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                                    #4077
                                    AVENGER Please!

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                                    • rifleman_btx
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                                      • Dec 2016
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                                      • West Point TX
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                                      #4078
                                      I was thinking of a suggestion for the next plane. But thought of something that could benefit the longevity of the planes around the hatch, would it be possible to have a plastic shell around the area of the foam down the lenght where the hatch and and fuselage meet? The reason I asks is, first it would reduce the flex of the hatch (less cracks in the finish of the hatch over time) and second add rigidity to the hatch sections of the fuselage. If you brought the plastic up about a half inch up the sides of the hatch and down the outsides of the hatch space, I feel like that area of wear would be reduced significantly. Anyway just a thought.

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                                      • Elbee
                                        Be humble...be approachable...and be credible.

                                        • Feb 2018
                                        • 4816
                                        • Wichita, Kansas
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                                        #4079
                                        RM, Acknowledged and Agreed. I have used epoxy (F-4) between the hatch and fuselage. Kind of like we did in the olden days where we used silicone in the wing saddle to better match the wing to the fuselage. The gap on some of these models is 'not attractive' to say the least. Great suggestion, Bro. Best, LB
                                        "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                                        ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                                        "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                                        ~Anonymous~

                                        AMA#116446

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                                        • T-CAT
                                          Senior Member

                                          • Jan 2016
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                                          #4080
                                          Originally posted by rifleman_btx
                                          I was thinking of a suggestion for the next plane. But thought of something that could benefit the longevity of the planes around the hatch, would it be possible to have a plastic shell around the area of the foam down the lenght where the hatch and and fuselage meet? The reason I asks is, first it would reduce the flex of the hatch (less cracks in the finish of the hatch over time) and second add rigidity to the hatch sections of the fuselage. If you brought the plastic up about a half inch up the sides of the hatch and down the outsides of the hatch space, I feel like that area of wear would be reduced significantly. Anyway just a thought.
                                          This is basically what E-Flite has done on two of their new planes, the FW 190 and the F-16 80mm EDF jet. I like the idea and implementation because I’m picky and I like to keep my planes looking nice even after hundreds of flights.

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