All-New Freewing PJ50 Twin 70mm EDF Jet - Official Thread

[Gilatrout]

Already heard back from Callie. The graphics are in the works. I also printed a pair of 1:16 pilot heads and started painting them as coastie pilots. Can't print the body because I don't know what kind of room is in there.

I needed a plane fix pretty bad it seems.

March is what...3 months away? That's 90 days...2160 hours... I can wait. Maybe.

[MeyerVW]

I have flow for 20ish years off and on. Mostly in the last 2 years. I never get to excited for new releases because you never know what will show up. Yesterday felt like Christmas eve as a kid and super excited to see what would show up today. To my surprise this PJ50 showed. It took all of 2 minutes to pull the trigger and buy it. I really have fun with my AL37, even though I keep crashing it. Its a fun aircraft. I love the size of this with a twin 70mm. I think its perfect for me. I seem to be having nice success with twin 70's. My 262 is all worked out and flies amazing. Al37 is a hoot in Kulula livery. This one will get people added in the windows. I have talked with Callie graphics about this with the AL37 and hopefully will be able to do it with this one. Less windows will make it easier for the PJ50. Thank you for another great looking aircraft.

[Gilatrout]

You are right. But remember, I was just starting out in this hobby. Didn't know a good manufacturer from a bad one and Dynam was "affordable". Experience and years teaches a lot.

That's the same lesson I learned,.we.all learned the hard way.

[xviper]

Dynam is one of those manufacturers that I will almost never buy. The quality control is just awful and I know I'll end up replacing everything.

You are right. But remember, I was just starting out in this hobby. Didn't know a good manufacturer from a bad one and Dynam was "affordable". Experience and years teaches a lot.

[Gilatrout]

... I went through 3 of the Dynam A-10s

Dynam is one of those manufacturers that I will almost never buy. The quality control is just awful and I know I'll end up replacing everything.

[rifleman_btx]

I've always looked at that one myself, but always with that, eeeeeeh no feeling.

[xviper]

I know dynam makes one but.... I'm very glad freewing stepped up and made a quality unit vs one that is decisively less desirable.

That's right, they do. I've seen one at my field. Small. It didn't fly well. Underpowered, sounded like a sewing machine, flew on 4s, poor build quality, needed a bunch of mods just to make it hold up to daily use. It didn't fly more than once that day. Then there's the UMX one from Eflite. It flew very well but so small. For the price, it wasn't bad (for a bargain basement product). On the other hand, I went through 3 of the Dynam A-10s, so the price was basically triple for a mediocre product. Just never learned. It was early in my RC "career", so I was a bit younger and a lot dumber.

[GliderGuy]

Semantics...LOL Silhouette (top / side) would be a better choice of words. What I was getting at is the number of times folks see my Mig-29 and call it one of these by mistake: F-15, F-18, SU-30, F-14, etc.

Being in a class of its own with a unique silhouette is why I pushed the order button.

-GG

[rifleman_btx]

I know dynam makes one but.... I'm very glad freewing stepped up and made a quality unit vs one that is decisively less desirable.

[xviper]

There are several “similar” profile EDFs offered for sale.
-GG

Do you mean other similar "looking" EDFs? When I see the word "profile", I'm thinking of those flat, 2-dimensional 3-D stunt planes or foamboard pusher props. I don't know of any mass produced foam BizJets. All the ones out there are really large custom jobs that are usually powered by turbines. This one is in a class of its own.
Had this been a Honda Jet of the same size, I'd have been the first one to have clicked the pre-order button. I'd have no patience to wait for that one.

[Gilatrout]

Hugh Wiedman - Every. Single. Release.

The negative ones always start louder, just wait a little while for them to disappear for a while and the ones who are interested remain. Today was a good day for civilian jet fans. Everyone will have their day

I would go so far as to say today was a good day for scale jet fans.


Just like all the airliner mods,.this too can be customized from warbird to business jet. Looks fun to fly too.

[GliderGuy]

There are several “similar” profile EDFs offered for sale. I’ve been holding off buying as I looked for something with a more unique profile. This one fits the bill. Ordered one!

Can’t wait to see how she holds up to lots of flights.

By the way…The MiG-29 overall is holding up great. Just needs attention to (beefing up) the plastic main gear attachment box support area.

Good job bringing the PJ50 to market!

-GG

[xviper]

Twin 70 mm 12 blades

"High zoot" inrunners, no less. At first I was a little surprised that this plane is 50 bucks more than the AL-37 but then I thought back to what I did with mine. I went and bought the more powerful inrunners to put in the 37 after mine ditched in the alkaline pond. Well, let's just say I spent way more than 50 bucks. Those inrunners made my ginormous 737 a rocket ship of sorts. I'm thinking they'll make this smaller jet even faster and more impressive. Plus, it comes with trailing links - a huge bonus for me. Besides, it's my retirement "play money", so what does it matter.

[avanti127]

Hugh Wiedman - Every. Single. Release.

The negative ones always start louder, just wait a little while for them to disappear for a while and the ones who are interested remain. Today was a good day for civilian jet fans. Everyone will have their day

Yes it was James...

[Elbee]

A little disappointed in some of the negative comments in various social media on this one. You're not going to get something that's right for everyone all the time. While this ain't my "cup of tea", still gotta hand it to FW for coming up with another incredible product. They now produce two of the finest commercial jets out there! I will definitely watch all the outstanding repaints many will come up with, just like the AL-37, and I'm sure this bird flies awesome and looks like a lot of thought went into every piece of it. For many (although not me), I'm sure this is right in their "wheelhouse". And it's not like those of us who aren't necessarily interested in this one have plenty of incredible FW military jets to choose from already. I don't seem to recall hearing anyone complain when HH came out with an 80mm F-4 and F-16 (well after FW already had theirs), although IMO the 4 different 90mm FW F-4's (including 8S) and the 2 90mm F-16's are far superior to anything HH came out with and the Mig is hands down far superior to the SU-30. And don't even talk about their prop warbirds in the Corsair/Spitfire/B-24 (all by far the only ones to spend your dough on). Bottom line, there's different aircraft that appeal to different people so if this ain't for you, GET OVER IT!

Hugh, I think you've nailed it with regard to those who 's expectations might have been for a new military jet. I think if this new offering has even half the appeal and sales as the AL-37, it could be a major success. I see this as a great new product and not as a disappointment. A single 6S battery and Twin 70 mm 12 blades, seriously, this is awesome engineering. Bravo Zulu, MotionRC, Freewing, Alpha, and all those who brought this one to market. Best as always, LB

[James]

Hugh Wiedman - Every. Single. Release.

The negative ones always start louder, just wait a little while for them to disappear for a while and the ones who are interested remain. Today was a good day for civilian jet fans. Everyone will have their day

[Tom]

My question is, I may be moving at the end of January so will I be able to call to update the shipping info so I can get it shipped to the correct place?

No worries, If you have any trouble changing your address, just sent me a PM and I'll get it changed.

[avanti127]

Just what I have been waiting for-for years now and the wait is now over! Thanks FW and Motion!

[Hugh Wiedman]

A little disappointed in some of the negative comments in various social media on this one. You're not going to get something that's right for everyone all the time. While this ain't my "cup of tea", still gotta hand it to FW for coming up with another incredible product. They now produce two of the finest commercial jets out there! I will definitely watch all the outstanding repaints many will come up with, just like the AL-37, and I'm sure this bird flies awesome and looks like a lot of thought went into every piece of it. For many (although not me), I'm sure this is right in their "wheelhouse". And it's not like those of us who aren't necessarily interested in this one have plenty of incredible FW military jets to choose from already. I don't seem to recall hearing anyone complain when HH came out with an 80mm F-4 and F-16 (well after FW already had theirs), although IMO the 4 different 90mm FW F-4's (including 8S) and the 2 90mm F-16's are far superior to anything HH came out with and the Mig is hands down far superior to the SU-30. And don't even talk about their prop warbirds in the Corsair/Spitfire/B-24 (all by far the only ones to spend your dough on). Bottom line, there's different aircraft that appeal to different people so if this ain't for you, GET OVER IT!

[James]

I've noticed a couple of potential issues in the videos. The first is that James seems to be carrying a ton of up trim on his elevators indicating that his CG and possibly the book CG is way too forward. The second issue is that in one of the slo-mo landings, it looks like there is some fuselage flex in the aft section.

Both are easy to solve. For the flexing issue, I'm going to add additional carbon fiber slats internally along the tail and up the fuselage to stiffen the area where the two pieces meet. As to the CG, Ill figure out if I need to do more than move the battery after I add the stiffeners.

March is soo far away....

Im going to wring it out more this week now that the reveal is done. I was babying it with it being the only one. Just needed enough footage for the hype video. Definitely will try to get Major Croasdale on the sticks. He was there for the flight I showed (had a new baby, hadn't seen him in a bit). Hang tight.

But yes, Evan is right. The book calls for 5mm up, I did have to trim the elevator down on my maiden, but it was flying great for me so I didn't further play with it. I will now. Monday looks sunny and calm