Official Freewing B-2 Spirit Bomber 86" Twin 70mm EDF Jet

[MikeT]

Ignorance is bliss.

Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.

Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.

It sure is. I can tell just by the posts in this forum.

Mike

[avanti127]

Ignorance is bliss.

Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.

Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.

AMEN!, was my point exactly. I've been flying for 40 years as well and it doesn't mean your reactions are the same as the were 40 years. Good for you if they are, I choose not to fight it.

[kallend]

Don't know or care John...

Ignorance is bliss.

Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.

Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.

[Elbee]

......Ahem, Gentlemen.

[xviper]

A human eye blink is 100ms. To be as fast as a gyro, yes, you'd have to be "superhuman" OR, have pre-cognition, which is basically guessing when something is about to happen and reacting at about the time it happens. That becomes "supernatural".

BTW, I can fall out of my chair at the bar faster than I can blink.

[Evan D]

Don't know or care John...

[kallend]

And questioning your flying ability and telling you all about your plane, how it flies, balance, mods etc... When they don't own or have ever flown the plane...

How well do you do? Can you beat 25ms?

https://calcpark.com/reaction-time-test

[Evan D]

And questioning your flying ability and telling you all about your plane, how it flies, balance, mods etc... When they don't own or have ever flown the plane...

LOL
Mike

[kallend]

After 40 years of flying this stuff . . .

Mike

Newbie!

[MikeT]

Get ready for the posts saying gyros don't fly the plane, that every plane should have one and that it makes a good flying plane fly bigger or better...

LOL
Mike

[Evan D]

Get ready for the posts saying gyros don't fly the plane, that every plane should have one and that it makes a good flying plane fly bigger or better...

[MikeT]

After 40 years of flying this stuff you kinda get the hang ( if you try) of ground handling , crosswinds and so on. Jumping on me for actually flying airplanes is ridiculous. That left stick is there for a reason. Your free to use anything you like after all it's a hobby.

Mike

[kallend]

Or maybe just really impressed with yourself!

He's from Texas. 'Nuff said.

[radfordc]

LOL. I must be superhuman or maybe just a good pilot. .

Mike

Or maybe just really impressed with yourself!

[MikeT]

Sure.

The fastest measured human reaction time is something over 100ms in a top athlete, and 270ms is average. And that's after you've noticed something that needs correcting.

See what yours is here: https://calcpark.com/reaction-time-test

The gyro will react to an anomaly in about 25ms.

LOL. I must be superhuman or maybe just a good pilot. .

Mike

[kallend]

Rudder and throttle control ( left stick ) does that same for me.

Mike

Sure.

The fastest measured human reaction time is something over 100ms in a top athlete, and 270ms is average. And that's after you've noticed something that needs correcting.

See what yours is here: https://calcpark.com/reaction-time-test

The gyro will react to an anomaly in about 25ms.

[davegee]

davegee The steering servo goes into the steering gyro and then you Y that in with the rudder.

Might order a few, you are already paying for shipping. You'll like them for a bumpy runway.

Thanks! Good point!

Cheers

davegee

[davegee]

davegee No, you don't need a dedicated channel for the Assan. It merely intervenes between the servo signals and the servos.
IE. Isolate the steering servo lead and plug it into the Assan (all leads are clearly labeled). For the Assan to get the steering signal, you put a Y into the rudder channel. One side of the Y is whatever was there before and the other is a new lead you add to go to the Assan. That takes care of the steering. (You don't want to bridge where the steering servo originally came from on the control box because that output is gyro controlled by the stock gyro, hence the Y directly into the rudder port on the RX.)
As for the nose retract, you can do something similar ................. isolate the retract lead and plug it into the Assan. For the Assan to get the retract signal, wherever the retract was plugged into originally, you use a lead that goes into those pins and hooks up to the Assan. This is how the Assan knows when the retract is UP and prevents the steering servo from working.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Not all Assan steering gyros will work properly until it is initially calibrated. That is, if the steering doesn't work when the gear is DOWN and only works when the gear is UP or if the direction of steering is opposite to what it ought to be, that's when the calibration must be done. Of note is that when you follow the intructions for calibration, it says to move the rudder stick at a certain time quickly several times. That really should read "VERY quickly". In fact, as quickly as you can physically move the stick. Too slow and it will NOT calibrate. This has fooled several people, making them think the Assan is a dud.

That's great info, xviper! Really appreciate it. I will order one from RC Castle. I'll let you know if I have any question/issues with the plugging in and calibrating of the Assan gyro once I get it. I think that will be a big help for the B-2. I was very impressed with a test video they did on a foamie jet with a line painted on their dirt runway and how close it followed the straight line until liftoff.

Cheers

davegee

[MikeT]

RC Castle, Assian 61. take off full throttle straight down the runway. Slows down your control input of turning to keep it you from flipping it or possible doing wing scrapes.

Rudder and throttle control ( left stick ) does that same for me.

Mike

[xviper]

davegee No, you don't need a dedicated channel for the Assan. It merely intervenes between the servo signals and the servos.
IE. Isolate the steering servo lead and plug it into the Assan (all leads are clearly labeled). For the Assan to get the steering signal, you put a Y into the rudder channel. One side of the Y is whatever was there before and the other is a new lead you add to go to the Assan. That takes care of the steering. (You don't want to bridge where the steering servo originally came from on the control box because that output is gyro controlled by the stock gyro, hence the Y directly into the rudder port on the RX.)
As for the nose retract, you can do something similar ................. isolate the retract lead and plug it into the Assan. For the Assan to get the retract signal, wherever the retract was plugged into originally, you use a lead that goes into those pins and hooks up to the Assan. This is how the Assan knows when the retract is UP and prevents the steering servo from working.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Not all Assan steering gyros will work properly until it is initially calibrated. That is, if the steering doesn't work when the gear is DOWN and only works when the gear is UP or if the direction of steering is opposite to what it ought to be, that's when the calibration must be done. Of note is that when you follow the intructions for calibration, it says to move the rudder stick at a certain time quickly several times. That really should read "VERY quickly". In fact, as quickly as you can physically move the stick. Too slow and it will NOT calibrate. This has fooled several people, making them think the Assan is a dud.