Official Freewing 80mm EDF F-86 Sabre Thread

[timmybeetle]

Update about progress F86

Received my F86 High Performance

1. well packed and looking very nice.
2. know that I have it at home I noticed that wing is not easy to remove for transport, compared to my FW T33.( in manual looks easy ha ha )
Will see in practice with wing installed how I will take it to the flying field
3. I have 6S Rhino and CNHL they are heavier and bigger, so testing them in my plane for CG I have to get them as far back as possible.
6S5000-50C 900 gram, CNHL 6S-70C 850 gram and CNHL 65C 760 gram.
Plane balanced perfect with 6S Rhino at position see pic below.
4. ESC has to move it's position.
I think its now located at old ESC position, will check heat because no cooling there yet!
5. Canopy does not fit with my Lipo's will see how to get it done.
Checked with LIPO installed and noticed that strap was only thing to high,modified canopy wit a little removal of foam see pic.
6. Think I move my RCVR up front !
yep I moved it in front of nose, used longer servo cable to get there and this also improved my wing assembly
7. Cheater mesh cover because I fly from grass.
Installed mesh on cheater and front gear mounting place
8. Check LG in main wing for if its glued in well, same issue as with FW T33 ?
Pulled hard on LG's seems to be ok, will check after every flight to be sure.

Well take my time to get it sorted out.
Was a quick build once started 😂

Grts Hans

[DCORSAIR]

I use the Gens 5000, 45C in this plane. No foam cutting needed.

Yeah,. I used the 45c and they did fit, then I wore those batteries out and bought 10 -Gensace 5000 60c so I had to cut the foam, the 60c seemed to hold up better for the EDF jets I had, now that I fly only scale helis, I wish I would have bought only 45c, they do fit better and are cheaper and perform just as good.

[xviper]

My Gensace 5000 60c fits, but you have to remove some foam from the bottom of the canopy, actually a lot of foam but it works, so you may have to do the same, I bought a second canopy just in case I messed up...

I use the Gens 5000, 45C in this plane. No foam cutting needed.

[Carlos G]

Hi All,

Here is an update with my Saber. I checked the nose wheel strut and found it hitting the steering servo when retracted, causing a bind. Checking further, I found the nose wheel strut had a slight bend where the strut is machine down to accept the nose wheel door clip. With a little gentle tapping with a block of hardwood I was able to straighten it out. I was also able to shift the steering servo away from the strut to gain a bit more clearance. I also adjusted the nose door clevis to minimize the tension the door places on the strut when the wheels are retracted.

My suggestion is to check the nose wheel strut after a less than perfect landing to make sure it is not bent. I will be buying a spare nose gear strut as it seems a bit thin and prone to bending. Thanks to everyone for your help.

Carlos G

[rifleman_btx]

I fly with floureon 4500 and hrb 4000, I believe they are the same cells in different packages. But never had any issues in 5 years with either brand using them in different planes

[DCORSAIR]

Received my F86 High Performance

1. well packed and looking very nice.
2. know that I have it at home I noticed that wing is not easy to remove for transport, compared to my FW T33.( in manual looks easy ha ha )
3. I have 6S Rhino and CNHL they are heavier and bigger, so testing them in my plane for CG I have to get them as far back as possible.
4. ESC has to move it's position.
5. Canopy does not fit with my Lipo's will see how to get it done.
6. Think I move my RCVR up front !
7. Cheater mesh cover because I fly from grass.
8. Check LG in main wing for if its glued in well, same issue as with FW T33 ?

Well take my time to get it sorted out.

Grts Hans

My Gensace 5000 60c fits, but you have to remove some foam from the bottom of the canopy, actually a lot of foam but it works, so you may have to do the same, I bought a second canopy just in case I messed up...

[paulrkytek]

Received my F86 High Performance

1. well packed and looking very nice.
2. know that I have it at home I noticed that wing is not easy to remove for transport, compared to my FW T33.( in manual looks easy ha ha )
3. I have 6S Rhino and CNHL they are heavier and bigger, so testing them in my plane for CG I have to get them as far back as possible.
4. ESC has to move it's position.
5. Canopy does not fit with my Lipo's will see how to get it done.
6. Think I move my RCVR up front !
7. Cheater mesh cover because I fly from grass.
8. Check LG in main wing for if its glued in well, same issue as with FW T33 ?

Well take my time to get it sorted out.

Grts Hans

rhino 4000 50c fits, no mods. see posts 751 and 753 on pg 38 and post 830.

[timmybeetle]

Received my F86 High Performance

1. well packed and looking very nice.
2. know that I have it at home I noticed that wing is not easy to remove for transport, compared to my FW T33.( in manual looks easy ha ha )
3. I have 6S Rhino and CNHL they are heavier and bigger, so testing them in my plane for CG I have to get them as far back as possible.
4. ESC has to move it's position.
5. Canopy does not fit with my Lipo's will see how to get it done.
6. Think I move my RCVR up front !
7. Cheater mesh cover because I fly from grass.
8. Check LG in main wing for if its glued in well, same issue as with FW T33 ?

Well take my time to get it sorted out.

Grts Hans

[SanExup]

Flew mine this morning. Greased the landing but one retract just yanked right out of the foam. Very poor glue job from the factory.

Ha! I've landed it hard and pulled all 3 out..It sucked but it did provide me the opportunity to use more glue and fix them without any real down time.

[Laserdude]

Ok good to know that's its the same issue as with T33....

grts Hans

That's true of most all foamies that I have had experience with.

[timmybeetle]

Flew mine this morning. Greased the landing but one retract just yanked right out of the foam. Very poor glue job from the factory.

Ok good to know that's its the same issue as with T33....

grts Hans

[xviper]

Flew mine this morning. Greased the landing but one retract just yanked right out of the foam. Very poor glue job from the factory.

[Ron1950]

i had that same problem but cant remember what plane it was lol getting old.. found that i could get it to come down if i cycled the gear and hit the rudder back and forth a few times and pop goes the nose gear down may be its stuck like xviper said

[Carlos G]

Hi xviper,

I will take a look and see if I can spot the problem. Thanks for giving me a few clues as to what to look for.

Best Regards
Carlos G.

[xviper]

Hi All,

I am having a bit of trouble with the nose gear of my F - 86. On the ground, all the retracts operate just fine. However, in flight the nose wheel will not come down and so I have to belly land the plane on the grass. I pick up the plane and all the retracts work fine. The plane flies great otherwise. Suggestions?

Carlos G.

When you pick it up to check, do you hold it the same way it is when flying or do you turn it upside down so you can see them working? Try putting the plane on a plane stand right side up and hang the front over the edge of the table. Or have someone else hold over you and you lay on the ground looking up at it. See if there is something that moves a certain way inside the retract cavity that might get in the way of the retract coming back down. Also a retract may have a problem coming back down if it's bent in such a way that a part of it presses up against the surface of the cylindrical portion of the retract. This prevents it from completing its full closing cycle and hitting the end switch. This locks the retract. You may find that if you bend the strut forward back to the perpendicular position, it won't hang up anymore. Repeated landings may bend the retract back.

[Carlos G]

Hi All,

I am having a bit of trouble with the nose gear of my F - 86. On the ground, all the retracts operate just fine. However, in flight the nose wheel will not come down and so I have to belly land the plane on the grass. I pick up the plane and all the retracts work fine. The plane flies great otherwise. Suggestions?

Carlos G.

[killickb]

Here is the Canadian version that I did on my F/W -86. Callie supplied decals. Got tired of the same old USAF color scheme. Used rattle can chrome paint -- looks great except shows finger prints even weeks after curing.

[Elbee]

Hallo, Grüße aus Deutschland.habe mir die F86 zugelegt.motor 3530-1680kv und 80A Regler für 6s. Will sie mit einem stärkeren Impeller ausrüsten. Welcher wäre da der beste. Vielen Danke für Eure Hilfe.karl-heinz

https://www.motionrc.com/collections...mm-edf-jet-pnp

TC, Willkommen bei Hobby Squawk. Wenn Sie diesen Link zu Motion RC überprüfen, wird die "High Performance"-Version aufgelistet. Ich würde vorschlagen, dass Sie dies als Richtlinie für ein leistungsfähigeres Upgrade für Ihre F-86 EDF verwenden. Viele Grüße, LB

[Tomcat1950]

Hallo, Grüße aus Deutschland.habe mir die F86 zugelegt.motor 3530-1680kv und 80A Regler für 6s. Will sie mit einem stärkeren Impeller ausrüsten. Welcher wäre da der beste. Vielen Danke für Eure Hilfe.karl-heinz

[SanExup]

Grossman56 I've been taking my weekends during the week, so I went out and flew today, we had blue sky! I flew my Arrows Bearcat, though I'd love to get the FL one with the Blue Angel's scheme, your Bearcat looks fantastic. When I do eventually get the Flightline Bearcat, I will turn the Arrows into Beetle Bomb. I think the Bearcat and the Tigercat are my favorite Navy prop planes.

Have you seen any of the Wyoming Air National Guard planes?