Official FlightLine 1600mm B-25J Mitchell PNP Thread

[Jdcrow]

Not knowing their purpose, I left those posts off the front rim. But since you took the effort to educate me, I'll see if they can be arranged cosmetically

Printed in Polymaker ASA and Bambu ASA with same slicer settings. Quality is comparable, but the Bambu required glue stick to remain adhered to the plate.

Thingiverse has been updated with this version.

now I’m tempted to print out tires. Ha

[desertdrifter7]

Tom, any updates?

[Elbee]

you guys need to read with a little more comprehension...

FP, I'd say that goes for each of us.

No one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen US Customs choosing this particular container for a complete 100% inspection.

This has little to do with any single administration.

This is SOP and, frankly, in this day and age it is necessary, IMHO.

We all know the 'rules' when it comes to "Pre Orders" and if not, you had an opportunity to ask before dropping your hard earned cash/credit.

Motion RC does the pre-orders better than most. We pay our money while rolling the dice, you're either in or you're not. No whining.

Respectfully, LB

[Evan D]

That's what I said too...

[MikeT]

It's Motions choice to charge upon order. They have said many times that it's their system and no way to change it. I assume that means they would have to purchase a new order management system to make the change. My feeling is that if it's that important then don't preorder or order from a vendor that doesn't charge your card until shipment. For this plane that would be Raymond at RC Castle or Paradise RC but then he's paying more for shipping.

FighterPilot is just saying he doesn't like the practice, in an exaggerated alternate reality way, but that's all...

I get that but it's just the way it is and it's been that way since day 1. If you don't like the policy, than don't order and just wait till it's in stock. It's a choice.

Mike

[Evan D]

It's Motions choice to charge upon order. They have said many times that it's their system and no way to change it. I assume that means they would have to purchase a new order management system to make the change. My feeling is that if it's that important then don't preorder or order from a vendor that doesn't charge your card until shipment. For this plane that would be Raymond at RC Castle or Paradise RC but then he's paying more for shipping.

FighterPilot is just saying he doesn't like the practice, in an exaggerated alternate reality way, but that's all...

[f4u ausie]

Just worth a thought,, they all do preorders even here in ozz,, without the preorder money, none of us may hav these awsome aircraft to fly or lookat if u thaat concerned about intrest ,,,, cut the plastic card,, customs r customs,, cant change it

[MikeT]

you guys need to read with a little more comprehension. I pay off my credit card every month, so I don't have to pay interest charges. You missed the point all together, that If I were to charge Motion RC the same rate as credit card interest for having my money for two months, they would owe me +/- $100.00. I hope you understand that. I don't normally allow people to charge my credit card and not deliver the product for two months. I understand this is out of the control of Motion RC; however, the situation could be remedied if your payment method was debited upon shipment, not upon order. Simple fix. Hope you guys that commented on my previous now understand and I hope the government gets their act together and releases this shipment.
By the way Evan D, 20% interest would be about $100.00. I don't understand how you get 114%.

Now you claim to pay if off every month , so what's your beef? You knew that they would charge your CC when you hit the buy button. You had a choice and you made it. End of story.

Mike

[Fast N Light]

i think you’ve nailed it as is

Upon further review, and some shifting of the nose wheel axle, i think 7mm exposed axle is same amount for kit and scale front wheel. grub screw marked the axle just at edge of flat spot.

also noticed the 4 post on the wheel spokes are where they affixed the nose wheel mud/dust cover

I’m waiting for spare tires to be available from motion before i remove the ones from the kit wheels i have.

Not knowing their purpose, I left those posts off the front rim. But since you took the effort to educate me, I'll see if they can be arranged cosmetically

Printed in Polymaker ASA and Bambu ASA with same slicer settings. Quality is comparable, but the Bambu required glue stick to remain adhered to the plate.

Thingiverse has been updated with this version.

[Jdcrow]

Thanks for the feedback.

I typically chase precision holes in 3D parts with a drill. For the front the sequence was 3.9, 4.0 and 4.1mm. Used the axle from my Vulcan to test this setup. Small steps minimizes the tendency to drift in a non fixtured setup. Freezing the bits gives me the impression they cut better rather than smearing the polymer.

I think I can trim up the width on the front axle about 0.75mm per side and still get the cap to work. Do you think that 1mm on the inner hub won't cause the tire to rub on the gear strut? It will be nearly aligned with the rim OD and the tires are wider.

On the filament - I recently got a roll of Bambu ASA and the jury is still out on it. Have had several 1st layer and spaghetti failures using it, including these rims! More issues than I have had with any other filament. I think the Polymaker ASA and Bambu Generic ASA settings provides a better result overall. Hopefully Bambu will evolve their slicer settings and/or filament composition to improve it's performance.

After I can complete a check print for the front mods, I will update the .STL files with a reduced width.

i think you’ve nailed it as is

Upon further review, and some shifting of the nose wheel axle, i think 7mm exposed axle is same amount for kit and scale front wheel. grub screw marked the axle just at edge of flat spot.

also noticed the 4 post on the wheel spokes are where they affixed the nose wheel mud/dust cover

I’m waiting for spare tires to be available from motion before i remove the ones from the kit wheels i have.

[Fast N Light]

i printed with ASA from Bamboo Labs. Parts printed excellent

i think i might have measured the axle diameter a little off, or either the ASA filament shrunk. Most Likely the measurement was off a millimeter on the front and main axle size

mains width at axle fits perfect with the factory supplied spacer.

nose wheel width at axle is tight. Maybe a millimeter on each face of the wheel removed where the axle head and strut side meet.

i also noticed the factory B-25 wheel has brass bushings inserted.

Thanks for the feedback.

I typically chase precision holes in 3D parts with a drill. For the front the sequence was 3.9, 4.0 and 4.1mm. Used the axle from my Vulcan to test this setup. Small steps minimizes the tendency to drift in a non fixtured setup. Freezing the bits gives me the impression they cut better rather than smearing the polymer.

I think I can trim up the width on the front axle about 0.75mm per side and still get the cap to work. Do you think that 1mm on the inner hub won't cause the tire to rub on the gear strut? It will be nearly aligned with the rim OD and the tires are wider.

On the filament - I recently got a roll of Bambu ASA and the jury is still out on it. Have had several 1st layer and spaghetti failures using it, including these rims! More issues than I have had with any other filament. I think the Polymaker ASA and Bambu Generic ASA settings provides a better result overall. Hopefully Bambu will evolve their slicer settings and/or filament composition to improve it's performance.

After I can complete a check print for the front mods, I will update the .STL files with a reduced width.

9PM PST - Updates completed
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6184138

[Jdcrow]

I have taken these wheels as far as I can without the plane. If someone wants to give them a try, I just posted the .STL files.



https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6184138
Planning to wait until the designs are validated to the plane before sharing on RCG. Special release for the folks here who helped me with them.

i printed with ASA from Bamboo Labs. Parts printed excellent

i think i might have measured the axle diameter a little off, or either the ASA filament shrunk. Most Likely the measurement was off a millimeter on the front and main axle size

mains width at axle fits perfect with the factory supplied spacer.

nose wheel width at axle is tight. Maybe a millimeter on each face of the wheel removed where the axle head and strut side meet.

i also noticed the factory B-25 wheel has brass bushings inserted.

[Evan D]

APR… $100 for a year is 20% but for two months you need to multiply by 6. you miss the point of my jest.

[Fighterpilot]

you guys need to read with a little more comprehension. I pay off my credit card every month, so I don't have to pay interest charges. You missed the point all together, that If I were to charge Motion RC the same rate as credit card interest for having my money for two months, they would owe me +/- $100.00. I hope you understand that. I don't normally allow people to charge my credit card and not deliver the product for two months. I understand this is out of the control of Motion RC; however, the situation could be remedied if your payment method was debited upon shipment, not upon order. Simple fix. Hope you guys that commented on my previous now understand and I hope the government gets their act together and releases this shipment.
By the way Evan D, 20% interest would be about $100.00. I don't understand how you get 114%.

[Evan D]

You should get a better rate on your card. Considering you don't pay interest for the first month but still did for two months since you said over 2, you are paying 114% apr.

I understand the problem you are having. This is probably the most dysfunctional government in my lifetime (and that spans more than a few decades). Perhaps you might rethink the charging a customer full price on their credit card at the time of order and charge them instead at the time of shipping. Motion RC has had my money for over two months. If I were to charge credit card interest rates to MotionRC, they would now owe me +\- $100.00.

[MikeT]

I understand the problem you are having. This is probably the most dysfunctional government in my lifetime (and that spans more than a few decades). Perhaps you might rethink the charging a customer full price on their credit card at the time of order and charge them instead at the time of shipping. Motion RC has had my money for over two months. If I were to charge credit card interest rates to MotionRC, they would now owe me +\- $100.00.

Pre Orders are what they are. If you pay your CC bill off every month you would avoid those interest charges. This isn't Motion's problem.

Mike

[Fighterpilot]

I understand the problem you are having. This is probably the most dysfunctional government in my lifetime (and that spans more than a few decades). Perhaps you might rethink the charging a customer full price on their credit card at the time of order and charge them instead at the time of shipping. Motion RC has had my money for over two months. If I were to charge credit card interest rates to MotionRC, they would now owe me +\- $100.00.

[desertdrifter7]

Tom, any updates on the inspection schedule? I know that yesterday was a holiday which probably means the inspectors are going to ease into their work today.

[desertdrifter7]

P2vguy. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[p2vguy]

Update - As of this evening, we are now 12th in line to be inspected.

Unfortunately, the wait is MUCH longer than expected 🤨. At this point there is a possibility the 3rd shipment of B-25 may arrive before the first. It looks like the total transit time is going to end up about 3 months by the time this container arrives. Normal is 4-5 weeks right now.

The government spends a month inspecting a container of model planes while they let anyone or any thing come in across our southern border without any inspection.