Official FlightLine 1600mm B-25J Mitchell PNP Thread

[Elbee]

jetfool, well, I hadn't really thought about that yet.

I had originally thought I'd start the Tomcat after the Corsair, but that is a longer project with more than cosmetic mods, so more likely a project after this Winter.

I would not want to put anyone in a position to commit to a build or airframe that wasn't agreed upon first.

I have never done a 'group build' of any kind, so frankly, I am open to anything including the B-25 if that's the pick.

If I'm choosing favorites, Rex, I still like the F-86, F-5E, P-38 as these are not too costly and could benefit from a few 3DP parts.

I will build the Mitchell before next flying season, so an additional group-build aircraft would just be icing on the cake

Speaking (writing) of the B-25J, I would like to compliment Fast N Light on his Wheel designs, Bravo Zulu, Sir.

Best to all, LB

[Elbee]

themudduck

I received an order confirmation email from MRC on June 27th, 2023 at 0925.

This was a pre-order with payment.

I received my shipment on August 18,2023 at 1155.

Best as always, LB

[Fast N Light]

Just need a plane to put them on ...

[Oxotnik]

Okay, Ladies, I've structurally assembled my Mitchell Bomber. I really like how everything screws together. The outer wing has plastic catches, for attachment to the inner wing. This is one thing that I've made a mental note to myself to check closely before each flight. It does feel secure, once it has snapped into place, but I am a bit concerned about the plastic pieces. Not hugely, but some. Everything else screws together. Alignment was perfect. I never had to modify anything, to allow it to go together. Easy peasy!

Electrically, I did a couple mods:
1. I used my own extensions to run the two elevator servo wires to the location where my rx will go. Each will get its own channel.
2. I pulled the aileron servo connector out of the back of the interface board on each outer wing. I added own extension to reach the rx location. I made a small cutout in the interface board to allow the ail servo wire to bypass the I/F board without pinching or cutting the servo wire. I snaked the ail extension through yhe inner wing and past the inner-wing interface board. Each aileron servo will get its own channel.

The aileron and elevator servos will bypass the blue box, too, and will plug directly into the rx. All other functions I left in the blue box and interface boards.

The ESCs are in each respective nacelle, and the throttle wire and battery wire run into the fuselage through their own ports. I will set these up for differential thrust, mixed with the rudder.

I haven't done it yet, but I will pull the steering servo wire out of whatever it's plugged into and will give it its own channel and trim tab, mixed with the rudder.

I'm calling it an evening. Tomorrow, I'll install the RX and will write my model program (OpenTX Radiomaster T16S, and will run an FrSky S8R witb two xbus extensions to get 16 channels). With the S8R, I will install a battery voltage sensor and a GPS sensor, telemetering the data to the TX.

This model is beautiful! 1.6m is a GREAT size! Great job, Motion RC!!!!

[jetfool]

Congrats Elbee. Will this be your winter project to scale out?

[Elbee]

I suppose it would all be based on your Order Number, not the date of order, hmmm. I will post my order number tomorrow. Best, LB

[Evan D]

SO the question is really when did you see the announcement. Minutes after it was made or days? As Tom has said the ones that have shipped are actually from a small second shipment that was received before the main, large, first shipment that is still undergoing inspections.

[themudduck]

I placed my preorder minutes after I saw the announcement. No shipment notification for me yet.

[Drdoom]

I just received My B-25 Mitchell and it is flawless. Almost too nice to fly. Thanks again Motion RC this is fabulous.

[Oxotnik]

Landed safely.

[borntoolate]

Mine is scheduled for Monday.

[Elbee]

Y'all, Like many of you, I received my Mitchell today via FedEx.

The now famous "Blue Tape" Outer Shipping Box had few dings and slight tears, but nothing that penetrated into the finely decorated inner box.

Opened her up and saw one beautiful B-25J. I have wanted one, like, forever.

Happy Customer here, Boys-n-Girls.

Best, LB

[Drdoom]

My brand new B-25 is "Out for delivery."

[MikeT]

I think that it is implied that if you pre-order that you'll be at the head of the line to get that product. Why else would anyone pre-order?

I'm not going to split hairs with you though. As I said in the earlier post, if I'm going to buy a HH product, I'd rather get it through my LHS anyway, if I know that the LHS will carry the product that I want. The point that I was originally trying to make is that I'll never pre-order from HH again, but am comfortable pre-odering from Motion, even when things don't go perfectly as planned.

I get that you're a brick-n-mortar hobby shop owner. Your perspective is a bit different than us end users. It's a tough business, trying to compete with web sales. Too many LHS's are closing their doors. I hate to see that. That's horrible for the hobby, and for the shop owners.

Not a owner I do a few days a week at the LHS as a retirement gig. My "perspective" is helping people be successful at the hobby and enjoy it , nothing more. On a side note " as a end user" I have a 2 car garage full of planes from all the suppliers you can think of, also on the board of our R/C club . Also I agree with the closing of shops every day I hear of anther going away. Sad.
Mike

[Oxotnik]

That's not "implied" anywhere. There's no telling just how many will be pre-ordered so it's a crap shoot. Motion in the past has oversold pre-orders ( the 80mm A-10for one) I pre-ordered mine on the day it was announced and got it on the second shipment. It is what it is regardless of the supplier. Motion does a good job and since Horizon doesn't really supply what Motion does I always send my customers to them for items Horizon doesn't offer. Motion is after a different customer than Horizon is. It's nice that I can offer my customers that buy Horizon stuff on the spot replacement of products with "issues" along with support on those items..

Mike

I think that it is implied that if you pre-order that you'll be at the head of the line to get that product. Why else would anyone pre-order?

I'm not going to split hairs with you though. As I said in the earlier post, if I'm going to buy a HH product, I'd rather get it through my LHS anyway, if I know that the LHS will carry the product that I want. The point that I was originally trying to make is that I'll never pre-order from HH again, but am comfortable pre-odering from Motion, even when things don't go perfectly as planned.

I get that you're a brick-n-mortar hobby shop owner. Your perspective is a bit different than us end users. It's a tough business, trying to compete with web sales. Too many LHS's are closing their doors. I hate to see that. That's horrible for the hobby, and for the shop owners.

[desertdrifter7]

I understand the pre-order process. I don't have a problem with it unless the company has oversold a product that they know they will not be able to deliver as promised. Positive Grid is a great example. They offered a great little amp and I pre-ordered one. Although 6 months after the promised delivery date I could not get even an estimation as to when I would receive my amp and yet the company continued offering the amp on a pre-order basis. I eventually asked for a refund and bought a different amp which filled my needs perfectly. I understand the delays due to the inspections and I am patiently waiting for my B-25. I am hoping to see it by the end of August.

[MikeT]

Toward the first of the online pre-orders...
It's implied that if you pro-order, you will get it as soon as it's available. If the pre-order announcement would've said, "as soon as the dealers get theirs, we'll start sending out online pre-orders, I wouldn't just saved my pre-order money and bought directly from my LHS. I'd actually prefer to buy through my LHS anyway, and would've gotten it quicker, too. Just saying, I'll never pre-order anything else through HH. I don't really care for HH products much any more anyway; so, it doesn't really matter.

It'd be cool if Motion had a brick-n-mortar presence of some sort, but I don't think that that's in their business model. I'd kinda hate to see a dealership markup added to the final price though. Can't have everything...

That's not "implied" anywhere. There's no telling just how many will be pre-ordered so it's a crap shoot. Motion in the past has oversold pre-orders ( the 80mm A-10for one) I pre-ordered mine on the day it was announced and got it on the second shipment. It is what it is regardless of the supplier. Motion does a good job and since Horizon doesn't really supply what Motion does I always send my customers to them for items Horizon doesn't offer. Motion is after a different customer than Horizon is. It's nice that I can offer my customers that buy Horizon stuff on the spot replacement of products with "issues" along with support on those items..

Mike

[Oxotnik]

"Then, before I got mine shipped to me, local hobby shops had them on their shelves. I think that hobby shops had them a whole week before I received mine"

LOL, you really think you were the first to order that? Here's how it works , Horizon Dealers get 1st shot at pre-orders and delivery of new product first. As it should be , we do 3 or 4 orders a week for Horizon. LHS deserve to get it 1st. While HH is no where near perfect LHS's don't have much of a choice as far as vendors, I wish Motion had a dealer program.
Mike

Toward the first of the online pre-orders...
It's implied that if you pro-order, you will get it as soon as it's available. If the pre-order announcement would've said, "as soon as the dealers get theirs, we'll start sending out online pre-orders, I wouldn't just saved my pre-order money and bought directly from my LHS. I'd actually prefer to buy through my LHS anyway, and would've gotten it quicker, too. Just saying, I'll never pre-order anything else through HH. I don't really care for HH products much any more anyway; so, it doesn't really matter.

It'd be cool if Motion had a brick-n-mortar presence of some sort, but I don't think that that's in their business model. I'd kinda hate to see a dealership markup added to the final price though. Can't have everything...

[MikeT]

"Then, before I got mine shipped to me, local hobby shops had them on their shelves. I think that hobby shops had them a whole week before I received mine"

LOL, you really think you were the first to order that? Here's how it works , Horizon Dealers get 1st shot at pre-orders and delivery of new product first. As it should be , we do 3 or 4 orders a week for Horizon. LHS deserve to get it 1st. While HH is no where near perfect LHS's don't have much of a choice as far as vendors, I wish Motion had a dealer program.
Mike

[Evan D]

I don’t buy much from HH and if I do it’s through Amazon.