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  • Elbee
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    • Feb 2018
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    #161
    Originally posted by davegee

    I read somewhere that using that Bendix turret caused spatial disorientation and motion sickness among gunners using it. Still, it is neat you found an airplane that used this design for a while until they came up with a better solution for the times.

    Coming along great, Steve!

    Davegee
    DG,

    Let there be no confusion, I, too, have suffered 'spatial disorientation and motion sickness' researching, implementing,

    cutting, designing and fitting all the holes/parts for this fuselage modification.

    It's a first world problem, but enough of one to drive a man to drink copious amounts of adult beverage.

    Thanks for the encouragement, Gents, it means a lot.

    Best, LB


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    • Elbee
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      #162
      Hey All,

      Quick update: Prime, sand, prime sand....

      Y'all know the drill.

      Disappointed in all the 'gatoring' on this model, though some of it is self-inflicted, unfortunately.

      I will soldier on, however.

      I am using the same Krylon Filler/Primer I used on the Corsair, but it is just not doing as well.

      I'll need to add a bit more filler, which slows the process.

      The picture is a bit blurry and she doesn't look quite that bad in real time.

      The good news is there are quite a few larger markings to add and she is a war weary warrior.

      More when there is more....:pop

      Best, LB

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      • f4u ausie
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        #163
        Lookin good Steve.. U r an amazingly. Patient man.. it's a heck of alota work.. and U already no ,, the harder U work the luckier U get

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        • RRHandy
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          #164
          Originally posted by Elbee
          Hey All,

          Quick update: Prime, sand, prime sand....

          Y'all know the drill.

          Disappointed in all the 'gatoring' on this model, though some of it is self-inflicted, unfortunately.

          I will soldier on, however.

          I am using the same Krylon Filler/Primer I used on the Corsair, but it is just not doing as well.

          I'll need to add a bit more filler, which slows the process.

          The picture is a bit blurry and she doesn't look quite that bad in real time.

          The good news is there are quite a few larger markings to add and she is a war weary warrior.

          More when there is more....:pop

          Best, LB

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          What I use as fill primer is a sample size of paint and equal amount of talcum powder (8 ounces) and paint on, just sand like normal.
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          • Elbee
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            #165
            Originally posted by RRHandy

            What I use as fill primer is a sample size of paint and equal amount of talcum powder (8 ounces) and paint on, just sand like normal.
            Ron,

            Great Tip, but what type of the sample size paint, Latex, acrylic, what or do use your final color?

            Best, Steve
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            • Elbee
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              #166
              Originally posted by f4u ausie
              Lookin good Steve.. U r an amazingly. Patient man.. it's a heck of alota work.. and U already no ,, the harder U work the luckier U get
              Hah Craig,
              If I had any patience, I'd be a Doctor...bu-dum-bump-tiss. Click image for larger version

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              Thanks, I think "How would Craig do this?"

              That keeps me motivated.

              Best, LB
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              • RRHandy
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                #167
                Originally posted by Elbee

                Ron,

                Great Tip, but what type of the sample size paint, Latex, acrylic, what or do use your final color?

                Best, Steve
                Sample size from Lowes, I believe Acrylic Latex and tint grey.
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                • Elbee
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                  Thanks, that's what I was thinking. I should go back to acrylic latex for these foamies.
                  It is what I've used on everything except the Corsair and I had great results always.
              • f4u ausie
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                #168
                Handy I've heard of that in the auto body trade.. if ya.doing a in show type . custom or bike

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                • Elbee
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                  #169
                  Medium Bomber Fans,

                  Another update.......:sleeping:...... from LB......

                  Finished a remake of the lower fuselage turret to beef it up some.

                  I know I'll crunch it otherwise.

                  Added the glass and have just finished the dry fit before glue, filler, and primer/paint.

                  Next is masking for the color line and applying the upper color Desert Sand ANA 616.

                  This is quite pinkish and as I understand it, become more so with sun fading.

                  My plan is to use both ANA 616 and Desert Yellow for the finish,:astonished: but use the yellower tone as part of the weathering.

                  As Dr Frankenstein was once heard to say, "We'll see what we will see, when we see it."

                  Or was that Stevie Wonder.:rolling_eyes:

                  More when there is more...:pop

                  Best, LB

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                  • Elbee
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                    #170
                    Color Critics,

                    This is ANA 616 Desert Sand in the sunlight.

                    Not as 'pinky' as I thought, but I can see how it would sun-fade to pink.

                    The paint is an Acrylic Enamel so I tested it on a piece of the EPO.

                    Held up just fine as did the primer coat. :clap:

                    Best, LB

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                    • Elbee
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                      #171
                      Lads and Lassies,

                      WHAT?!?!?!?!

                      .....a pain to mask this little jewel.

                      Zinc Chromate down, then a quick splash of gray primer, and on to the Desert Sand.

                      More when there is more.

                      Best, LB

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                      • Elbee
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                        #172
                        Mitchell Menagerie.

                        Celebrating another small victory with the 'greenhouse'.

                        First coat zinc chromate, second gray primer, third Desert Sand.

                        No runs; however, there is some vinyl tape residue, but that's to be expected.

                        I have had this roll of 0,125" masking tape since the mid 80's and it still works great.

                        You can't leave it on the part for more than a couple days as it de-laminates somewhat and leaves the sticky behind.

                        Comes off with IPA.

                        I did get overspray in the inside and will deal with that once it cures out.

                        Next the cockpit greenhouse.

                        More when there is more.

                        Best, LB
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                        • jetfool
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                          #173
                          Coming along nicely, Elbee. Spending time in basement with this heatwave going on. Stay cool!

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                          • davegee
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                            #174
                            Originally posted by Elbee
                            Mitchell Menagerie.

                            Celebrating another small victory with the 'greenhouse'.

                            First coat zinc chromate, second gray primer, third Desert Sand.

                            No runs; however, there is some vinyl tape residue, but that's to be expected.

                            I have had this roll of 0,125" masking tape since the mid 80's and it still works great.

                            You can't leave on the part for more than a couple days as it delaminates somewhat and leaves the sticky behind.

                            Comes off with IPA.

                            I did get overspray in the inside and will deal with that once it cures out.

                            Next the cockpit greenhouse.

                            More when there is more.

                            Best, LB
                            It's like opening a present on Christmas morning to see how it all turned out!

                            Good job!

                            Davegee

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                            • Elbee
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                              #175
                              Hey all,

                              Thanks fellas for the kudos.

                              The photos are not centering for lack of a better term when you click on those.

                              Just continue to click on it and it will come around.

                              Also, I narrowed the 'frames' of each of the plexi-glass sections when I masked everything.

                              The OEM seem too wide and not to scale IMHO.

                              Looks much better to me.

                              Best, LB
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                              • Elbee
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                                #176
                                Hello Fellow Medium Bomber Ardent Devotees,

                                There is more, so there is more.

                                Cockpit glass still needs to cure and then get cleaned up.

                                Turned out better than I thought.

                                Still don't know why the OEM upper sections were blocked out, in fact not even molded into the part.

                                In any event, I winged it and I like the way it turned out.

                                On to the verticals, then full paint for the fuselage.

                                See you then.:pop

                                Best,
                                LB

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                                • jetfool
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                                  #177
                                  Excellent Elbee!

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                                    Thanks, Rex.
                                • Charlee
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                                  • Aug 2017
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                                  #178
                                  "Still don't know why the OEM upper sections were blocked out, in fact not even molded into the part"

                                  The H and J models of the B-25 eliminated 3 of the upper rear cockpit glass panels that the A-G models had.​

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                                  • Elbee
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                                    #179
                                    Charlee

                                    Did not know that, thank you.:pray:

                                    I've been looking at "C" models and early production references too long.

                                    Just wasn't paying attention.:flushed:

                                    Doh.:confounded:

                                    Best, LB
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                                    • Elbee
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                                      #180
                                      Mitchell Mob,

                                      Applied some of Callie Graphics beautiful work to the verticals.

                                      Found good reference photos for placement.

                                      Going to need some faded weathering for certain.

                                      Best, LB

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