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Originally posted by Topdogzrc View PostAnother random thought on project foil...
Given it's long development time, it makes you wonder if it's rather complex and expensive (twin 80mm, with swing wings perhaps?) and I wonder if it's an F-111 since Alpha hinted at it being SEA as I heard prior on this thread?
To fit the criteria for FOIL, cloud atlas, and SEA operation...
Foil: fly low under radars at Mach 1+ without need for fighter escort/EW aircraft, in bad weather to boot, foiling enemy attempts to intercept it
Cloud Atlas: concept gave rise to the F-14 from the Navy, and the Russians took notice with it to design the MiG-23 and MiG-27
SEA: Once fixed, it proved itself over Vietnam with a decent combat record.
So, is it an F-111? It'd be interesting if it was, though I still like my MiGs...
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Originally posted by Topdogzrc View PostAnother random thought on project foil...
Given it's long development time, it makes you wonder if it's rather complex and expensive (twin 80mm, with swing wings perhaps?) and I wonder if it's an F-111 since Alpha hinted at it being SEA as I heard prior on this thread?
To fit the criteria for FOIL, cloud atlas, and SEA operation...
Foil: fly low under radars at Mach 1+ without need for fighter escort/EW aircraft, in bad weather to boot, foiling enemy attempts to intercept it
Cloud Atlas: concept gave rise to the F-14 from the Navy, and the Russians took notice with it to design the MiG-23 and MiG-27
SEA: Once fixed, it proved itself over Vietnam with a decent combat record.
So, is it an F-111? It'd be interesting if it was, though I still like my MiGs...
I like your thinking but I suggest FOIL will be a B1/A or B1/B Lancer
Foil:fly low under radars at just under Mach 1 without need for fighter escort/EW aircraft, in bad weather to boot, foiling enemy attempts to intercept it.Cloud Atlas:The B-1 was first envisioned in the 1960s as a platform that would combine the Mach 2 speed of theB-58 Hustlerwith the range and payload of the B-52, and would ultimately replace both bombers, B-1A cancelled in 1977,
SEA: restarted in 1981 as the B-1BIt first served in combat during Operation Desert Foxin 1998 and again during the NATO action in Kosovothe following year. The B-1B has supported U.S. and NATOmilitary forces in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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If in fact MRC was planing an announcement at Pampa as Stuart hinted, I doubt it would be another US fighter/bomber/ interceptor. With that audience, it's more likely to be a Mig, Raffale, or something else Euro/Soviet . I love the idea of the F-111 made most famous in the the Reagan retaliation bombing of Libya ( Operation Eldorado Canyon). The swept wing Mig 23 & 27 as mentioned above would be very cool. So would a Panavia Tornado. Twin 80, swept wing, flew low, all weather ( Falklands) Just saying.Currently flying: Twin 80mm A-10, 80mm F5, 80mm A6, 70mm Yak-130, 70mm F-16v2,90mm Stinger 90, 70mmRC Lander F9F, Flightline F7F TigerCat, Phoenix 46 size Tucano, Flyzone L-39
Out of Service: 80mm Mig-21,64mm F-35, 64mm F/A-18
I Want: 80mm A-4, twin 80mm F4J Phantom
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Originally posted by dahawk View PostIf in fact MRC was planing an announcement at Pampa as Stuart hinted, I doubt it would be another US fighter/bomber/ interceptor. With that audience, it's more likely to be a Mig, Raffale, or something else Euro/Soviet . I love the idea of the F-111 made most famous in the the Reagan retaliation bombing of Libya ( Operation Eldorado Canyon). The swept wing Mig 23 & 27 as mentioned above would be very cool. So would a Panavia Tornado. Twin 80, swept wing, flew low, all weather ( Falklands) Just saying.
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Thanks James,
I'm very happy to wait. It's fun to speculate. Have plenty of great Freewing jets to fly. And my wallet gets a little time off. It's been brutally too hot to fly here anyway. Whatever it is, I'm sure it will be another home run.Currently flying: Twin 80mm A-10, 80mm F5, 80mm A6, 70mm Yak-130, 70mm F-16v2,90mm Stinger 90, 70mmRC Lander F9F, Flightline F7F TigerCat, Phoenix 46 size Tucano, Flyzone L-39
Out of Service: 80mm Mig-21,64mm F-35, 64mm F/A-18
I Want: 80mm A-4, twin 80mm F4J Phantom
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I caught this in the video that Motion posted today honoring George (Tirediron) for 2 years of consecutive flying. Notice that Alpha is using a little plane to talk as if the plane were talking. That sure looks like a Dassault Mirage F1 to me. I wonder if Alpha is telling us what's coming without coming right out and saying it. He's sneaky like that!
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Could it possible be a TSR2? the model alpha shows in the video looks like one as the tail is a bit less rounded than a mirage f1... maybe its just wishful thinking. Nose doesnt look right :(
EDIT: looking at the video it seems to have turned down wingtips, like TSR2 but not like the Mirage f1.... could it be?Currently Fly: Durafly Spitfire MkVb, Eflite P47 1100mm, Parkzone FW190A-8, Parkzone SE5a, Dynam Tiger Moth, Eleven Hobby Bearcat, Parkzone Mosquito MKVI, Durafly Tundra
Unflyable: Durafly Sea Vixen, Parkzone T28 (In temporary storage in tree)
Retired: Hobbyzone Delta Ray 'Frankenplane'
Wanted: Freewing A4
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also, Im a bit out of the loop but if this is project foil the name could be explained by the thin film of gold foil/film over the canopy on the TSR2 used to protect the crew's eyes from the flash of a nuclear blastCurrently Fly: Durafly Spitfire MkVb, Eflite P47 1100mm, Parkzone FW190A-8, Parkzone SE5a, Dynam Tiger Moth, Eleven Hobby Bearcat, Parkzone Mosquito MKVI, Durafly Tundra
Unflyable: Durafly Sea Vixen, Parkzone T28 (In temporary storage in tree)
Retired: Hobbyzone Delta Ray 'Frankenplane'
Wanted: Freewing A4
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Matt Younkin performing in the Twin Beech. It doesn't get any better than that! These are screen grabs from today's live stream of the airshow at Airventure. I think we need a Beech 18 done up in his colors!
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Y'all are an observant bunch! There were at least two birds in the shot that are part of upcoming projects. Neither is Foil or Hoot.
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