Official Freewing 90mm F-4 Phantom II Thread

[locharrow]

Well LB, my beast has been up trees, sword danced and dropped, hit ball ditches, been lost and found twice, put the U/C up through the wings once .....very little pilot error of course..... and still has the original wings and empennage ...new body couple of years back... but still cuts the mustard in the air. Have a new Camo RTG in the garage and the new Marine guy but still like ol' faithful. Now, if I had a 29 yr old blonde in the garage I'm not so sure about the other ol' faithful in my life.......Hope she doesn't read this.....

[Elbee]

"...a beat up old hack...:

LA, An old hack? Puh-Shaw! I don't believe it even for a minute. Besides, I know your Phantom has more flight hours.. My Phantom has become a bit of a hanger queen this season. Best, LB

[locharrow]

" Some inspiration, as if you'll need any. Best, LB" ............Don't need inspiration like this LB, you make my F4 look like a beat up old hack (which it is) !!!!! Was out today again, bit breezy but not bad. Switched on the trans. putting all the switches to off, connected up the plane, half flaps ...gunned it, took off great....up into what I thought was a hurricane. Plane was all over the place, ducking and diving. Dawned on me that I had not switched the gyro on ....man it was like chalk and cheese, plane settled down a lot although it was still gusty way up. The new Freewing 1750 arrived this morning so that is this evenings job!!!

[Elbee]

Probably McConnell AFB, Wichtia, KS.

Yes, McConnell AFB. The picture was taken on the 'guard side' of the runway, West of the runways. Best, LB

[okcrcpilot]

Where in Kansas is that F4, Elbee?

Probably McConnell AFB, Wichtia, KS.

[Elbee]

That picture is quite old. It was taken on the 'guard side' of the runway, West of the runways.
I do not know what happened to '461', but I bet I can find out.
Best, LB

[Coconut]

Where in Kansas is that F4, Elbee?

[Elbee]

f4u ausie

Some inspiration, as if you'll need any. Best, LB

KsANG: 127thTFS 184thTFG "Jayhawk Squadron"

[locharrow]

" Well i got her permission. " Says it all...F4u......join the club. 8s ? Don't think I'm qualified to progress to that ! I was playing about with the afterburners at the weekend because I thought they had a big draw on some cells in the 6s, seemed like it on the charger after a flight. In my nonchalant (good word) way, I strapped the battery in a wee 1/4----1/8 behind the mark on the ply plate. This morning I thought I'd give it a try. No problem, lifted off very nicely, flaps up, bit nose high, trimmed it, wee bit "livelier" on the sticks....lovely nose high approach and soft touch down. New mark on the ply now! That's only after about 4 years on the mark !! New grey marine lad just waiting on motor from Freewing......Thanks for the comp. LB.........seems many years ago now!.

[Elbee]

f4u ausie Congrats, welcome to the Brotherhood of Spook, Sir. Best, LB

[f4u ausie]

Well i got her permission... took longer than i thought,,,, here in 3 to 5 weeks,, south east asia camo , 8s pnp... oh im excited.... hav learnd,, ewe tube(lb) we had f4 phantom as stopgap ,, while waiting for our f111 s 1970 to 73..... but i was 8 then... do remember seeing f111 s will fly it 6 s at first , and 8 later HOPEFULLY.. been doing some bench tests,, 4 minuts is practical with the 1835 kv innrunner fwing. Motor.

[Elbee]

locharrow, truly beautiful work. I envy your talent. Best, LB

[locharrow]

Thanks guys, it is just that I do not like the design of the skull. I , for my sins, and for all my "working" life, was a woodcarver/artist, My company specialised in carving and painting heraldic devices and the skull just does not measure up. I think I will just paint over it. Way back I used to hand paint all this stuff. Never used decals. The pic is one of my companies products....did them when I used to be artistic. .

[Elbee]

...is there a way to remove the skull transfers on the tail. I am not over fond of the design and would like to change it. It looks as if painting over them is about all one can do.

LA, When I removed all the paint down to the bare foam on my FW A-10a, I soaked paper towels with acetone and draped those over the model.

It lifted the OEM Paint easily. I wiped most of it off with the same paper towel.

Took a couple afternoons.

If I was doing a repaint and there is OEM water-slides/vinyl decals, I would use acetone and paper towels again.

Worth a try if you're repainting anyway.

Best, LB

[f4u ausie]

If its a decal u need to remove it,, but it will pull paint,, water slide ,paint over and cant tell,, lb over on spitfire thread, gave good description, somebody also wanted to change scheme... one thing u dont need to use the latex paint.. i use auto paint( im a an auto body man) its not the cheap option , adhesion is very good.. u may have a hardwhare store to buy interior house paint,, they can color match, for u.... lastly do the grey f4 come with decals fitted now,, used to b 2 decal sets?

[locharrow]

"Its fwing 1835 " Yes, I have the FMS 1835 and didn't realise Freewing made one as well. I just bought the Freewing 1750, it is supposed to produce 4600 - 4900 gms of thrust so hopefully that will improve off grass stuff.

On a different subject, is there a way to remove the skull transfers on the tail. I am not over fond of the design and would like to change it. It looks as if painting over them is about all one can do.

[f4u ausie]

f4u...You talking about the FMS 1835? Have that in my new unflown camo F4...good motor..... this Freewing 1750 has redesigned blades and is supposed to deliver more static thrust. Unfortunately, I am so simple that I read it as "able to get off the grass better" That is why I need help !!

Its fwing 1835 was in my mig 17 not alot of use 12 blade last timit flew 430 minuts just a bit to long.. si will b good 4 f4 soon think its mayb 2 years old

[Hugh Wiedman]

Think I'll be stuffing this into the new F4.........Freewing Metal 90mm 12 Blades EDF with 6s 4068 1750KV ...all opinions appreciated....

I've got the FW 4068-1835Kv 12 blade inrunner in both of my F-4's. As a matter of fact, put those in my FW 90mm F16 and both of my FW 90mm F-18's. Love that fan and the sound of a 12 blade is sweet. I'm sure the 1750Kv will be similar to the 1835Kv, so you should enjoy it. More power than what was in those aircraft stock (although several were purchased early on when they came with the outrunner ). I fly off grass so any additional punch at take-off is well appreciated. I'm now flying all of those on the new 740 gr SMC HiV 5900's (used to use the 6200's which weighed 840gr). On the F-4, I have my timer set at 4:00 and usually come down there or at 3:50 (as much flight time as the 6200's or better since it lost some weight). Suggest you balance it close to the manual recommendation of 190mm. I'm at 195mm and like it there, as for me the F-4 really gets squirrely any further back, unlike all the other EDF's I have balanced 20-40mm further back. Just my opinion though.

[rlcamden]

I recently installed the Freewing 3668 1960Kv after having the 4068 1835Kv for about a year. Lightened the plane up, and on a 6S 6000 Admiral, I can easily get a 4 min flight time with throttle management.

https://youtu.be/-X4o_17UT88

[locharrow]

f4u...You talking about the FMS 1835? Have that in my new unflown camo F4...good motor..... this Freewing 1750 has redesigned blades and is supposed to deliver more static thrust. Unfortunately, I am so simple that I read it as "able to get off the grass better" That is why I need help !!