Official Freewing 90mm F-4 Phantom II Thread

[jetfool]

I think I have added the last 3d parts to the outside of the fuselage. makes the intake dividers more scale. Elbee that center seam is really hard to get seamless. I have sealed and primed, sanded but every time I prime some of it shows thru.
On my jet hanger F-4 the OS 91 would be a good fit but I believe the EDF would be best overall in today's world. Glow plugs are expensive.
Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

.I have a nib Dynamax and nib OS91.

Had the same setup.

Great project.

BTW, glad to see you added the fuel cell covers on the spine.

Hides myriad seam issues, too.

Nicely done.

Best, LB

[f4u ausie]

Looking very good Rex. Can't wait to see the finished product.... Have over 100 flights on mine now and my flying friend. Loves his to.. so far this Is way easier to land than my F16. Hope to change that ... Try try..
And I wish I very good luck at. Toledo have fun

[jetfool]

Added a few hatches and antennas on the top fuselage per my 3-view and photo.

[jetfool]

Elbee,
Life is not a straight line. Your not harping,I understand my friend.
I have a nib Dynamax and nib OS91. Might try and machine an alum motor mount to fit the Dynamax.or go with a JP EDF. Single probably. I do have a new 80 FW EDF from my friends Avanti so could envision 2 of them if enough room is available. If singlr I'll use the OEM exhaust pipe if single, on a twin I'd need advice from some experts. A twin would be nice.
I have machined a scale gear, and it is mounted in the scale position, similar to the RC Crafters scale gear but my costs are cheaper, hobby hour time.
Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

jetfool

Don't mean to 'harp' about my past... thanks for understanding the loss.

What size EDF for the JH Phantom as she's a big girl by Freewing standards as I recall.

Would you still use the 'bifurated pipe' or go for a twin setup?

Best, LB

[jetfool]

Elbee,
Understand when a Tornado hits, can be very troublesome.
I have the Jet Hanger F-4 and the A-7 Corsair. Both are in primer just work on them a little since bought new in the early 90s. Ordered R/C Geeks Jet Hanger cockpit and full body pilots for both planes when Chris sent the FW F-4 pilots. The JH cockpit has more detail and will look outstanding when I finish it.
My A-7 has the scale leading edge flaps, aileron spoilers, dive brake and all the scale features of the real one. I take many pictures of the A-7 in the Air Force Museum every time I visit, same for Robin Olds F-4C. Hope to meet Chris Wolfe at some meet and let him critic them. These are builders kits and take time to get right. Both will be EDF powered.
Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

She was a true labor of love. I'd had that model in my head for many years. It was meant to be for me. Fortunately, Freewing would create a foamie version after I had gotten back into the hobby in 2017. Providence. I had a Jet Hanger Hobbies F-4 with all the options sitting in the corner when Typhoon Ex-Wife hit and all was lost in that storm's wake. LOL

[jetfool]

Thanks, Elbee. I will install these correctly per your instructions. Fuselage is very smooth and after adding some hatches on top of fus. will be ready for paint. Your model is still the goal I'm after.
Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

Rex,

The 'open' ends go forward, i.e., in your picture the one on the right is oriented correctly back to front.

However, the angled side goes at the top.

Th whole part is mounted just shy of the molded panel line.

I do not recall which print sheet I used for your parts, but the smoothest side of the part should face outward.

I have attached some pictures for reference.

Any questions/comments just let me know.

Best, Steve

[jetfool]

Today I sprayed 2 final thin coats of regular primer. Tomorrow I'll lightly sand with 600 grit wet/dry paper then add a few 3d pieces and will be ready for paint.

Elbee, can you tell me which is the correct placement of these parts. The one on the right or left. trying to get the wide strip set the correct way. I think it's the one on the left for proper direction. Thanks in advance.
Best Regards, Rex

[jetfool]

Beautiful day so the Double Ugly is getting a wet sanding. Started with 220 wet/dry and will finish with 600 wet/ dry. It's getting really smooth and level.
Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8n5Tc908uE

Phantom Phriends,

This is Erik Johnston's F-4D walkaround (about 30 minutes) of the Collin's Foundation Phantom.

A homage to one of Robin Olds F-4s (BN 37680).

Great detail shots.

Enjoy.

Best, LB

[davegee]

Davegee,
Same aircraft just not going to be able to finish for the show. With all the details it would be a shame to rush and disappoint myself with a poor job. I am working on it, but wet sanding takes time to get the surface the way I want it. Believe This will be ready for next year but the P-47 with Bob will be going this year. Showed the P-47 at club meeting yesterday and everyone thought it looked great. Will post on P-47 forum later. I had my Corsair for 4 years before I took it to Toledo so not upset to bad. EYES bigger than my Belly.
Best Regards, Rex

Yeah, at this point it would be rushing it, and that usually doesn't end well. As you say, there is always next year, or afterwards! Really looking forward to seeing some publicity pics of your P-47 when you get around to it. I'm sure ol' Bob Johnson is looking down from his cloud and smiling that you are honoring him in this way!

Cheers

davegee

[nuts-n-volts]

On a side note, but still about Phantoms... The Collings Foundation is getting closer to flying their F-4D after a few years in the hangar. Gear swings done the other day and very close now.

Link: Diesel Thunder Aviation

[jetfool]

Davegee,
Same aircraft just not going to be able to finish for the show. With all the details it would be a shame to rush and disappoint myself with a poor job. I am working on it, but wet sanding takes time to get the surface the way I want it. Believe This will be ready for next year but the P-47 with Bob will be going this year. Showed the P-47 at club meeting yesterday and everyone thought it looked great. Will post on P-47 forum later. I had my Corsair for 4 years before I took it to Toledo so not upset to bad. EYES bigger than my Belly.
Best Regards, Rex

[davegee]

Moving ahead slowly. I sprayed the first coat of sandable primer on. Covered all the decals pretty well, will sand, fix imperfections and spray again. Needed to leave the skunkworks because of the smell, wife not happy.
Best Regards, Rex

Hi Rex: could you straighten me out on this? I thought you had an F-4 already completed and almost ready for the Toledo show next month. Is this a second F-4, or did you decide to redo the exterior and repaint it? Whatever, it is coming around great. I have a similar problem with bad paint and glue smells emanating from my workshop in the basement, especially on cold, windy days when I have to keep all the windows and doors closed. I lost my sense of smell over 15 years ago, so nothing bothers me, although that can be a bad thing if it is toxic. I have to just force myself out of the workshop at regular intervals for things to settle down. My wife is the constant arbiter of the paint/glue smell, and when to cool it for a while!

Thanks,

davegee

[davegee]

Davegee,
I agree with you. I still enjoy making something with my hands but really want a 3d printer. Hopefully later this year I can purchase a Mini-Prusa. I think this would do the things I need plus the High School teacher said he could help me. And I have Elbee and you to guide me. How hard was it for you to learn to use and get the quality you wanted?
I bet the H.S. kids would get a laugh if I spent a semester taking a 3d course. 70-year-old wearing a beanie in class. LOL
Best Regards, Rex

Push the beanie down forward just above your eyes, spin the propeller on it, and show those punks that a New badass kid, now 70 years old is taking in charge of the shop class! LOL

I highly recommend the mini prusa to start out. It's well made and does a good job if you have good STLs to print from. Doesn't take much room in your shop.

I had a rough start with mine, wouldn't work properly and I ended up sending it back to the Czech Republic for their techs to work on. When I got it back, I still had problems but thanks to Elbee's kind heart and patience with me over the phone, I finally got to a point where I could print a few things. I'm no master at it, but I'm able to at least print up files that are given to me, and sometimes figure out why they didn't come out quite right. I can adjust the size as needed to the scale of the model so you can print different parts for different scale models. It truly is an amazing machine and now an integral part of my workshop. When you're ready, go buy one and if someone like that teacher can help you, that's the best thing with hands-on help.

[jetfool]

Received my pilot bust from Chris Wolfe plus his cockpit for the Jet Hanger F-4 I have and a full body 1/110 scale pilot for my Jet Hanger A-7.. All detail is fantastic, Thanks Chris.
Best Regards, Rex

[Hugh Wiedman]

Moving ahead slowly. I sprayed the first coat of sandable primer on. Covered all the decals pretty well, will sand, fix imperfections and spray again. Needed to leave the skunkworks because of the smell, wife not happy.
Best Regards, Rex

Nice work, looking forward to the transformation. "Wife Not Happy", join the club, but that's how they keep us on our toes and eventually get everything they want! The sacrifices we make as "true" patriots is monumental!