Official Freewing 90mm F-4 Phantom II Thread

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  • Alpha
    Former Motion RC Staff

    • Feb 2015
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    #41
    Originally posted by hotrod23t
    Is. There another plane conning project foil or did I miss that
    Project Foil is still in the oven, hotrod23t, you didn't miss it. I just like to mete out project names in an order incongruous with the actual release date. Why? Because I'm a workaholic and this is the little bit of fun I get to have :D :D
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    • themudduck
      -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

      • Apr 2017
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      #42
      Hey - what's with the "3D" control throws I see in the first video, what's up with that?
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      • Alpha
        Former Motion RC Staff

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        #43
        Originally posted by seaviper

        I figured you guys wrong.

        Happy to be here and looking forward to the F4.
        'Happy to have you here, seaviper! Truly! You know by now, my friend, we've always got a lot coming for everyone.
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        • e4dragongunner
          Living the dream!

          • Feb 2016
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          #44
          Such Great news to wake up to!
          Current Hanger: FW, F4.F22,F14, Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, Top Flite P-40, Top RC P-51 H9 P-51, SebArt Avanti, Yellow aircraft Spitfire, T Jeti Extreme Flight EDGE, DS-24 Carbon,

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          • RCjetdude
            Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

            • May 2016
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            #45
            Originally posted by MotionJB

            its a 3748-1750KV motor.
            Thank you James. Any input on how it flies with the ordnance? The flight video is without.

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            • ElCid
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              • Oct 2017
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              #46
              So excited . clicking pre order now. BTW any word on grass ops?

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              • mr.frankenjet
                Eat, sleep, FLY FLY FLY !

                • Jan 2016
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                #47
                That's a thing of beauty for sure, nice job guys, thanks for continuing to bring out these awesome planes.
                rc flyin addict

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                • RCjetdude
                  Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ElCid
                  So excited . clicking pre order now. BTW any word on grass ops?
                  Read the write up on the first post.

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                  • mr.frankenjet
                    Eat, sleep, FLY FLY FLY !

                    • Jan 2016
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                    #49
                    :f4phantom
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                    • James
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by RCjetdude

                      Thank you James. Any input on how it flies with the ordnance? The flight video is without.
                      Jon Barnes and Tony Accurso have them and should be able to get some footage while we wait for Ryan and Mike to get some decent weather! Tony is at the Arizona Electric Festival today so I expect we will get some footage there. But Alpha wouldn't let anyone down, she'll fly fantastic with the ordinance or without.

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                      • wolpertinger
                        Pilot ??

                        • Dec 2016
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                        #51
                        Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC
                        Wolpertinger, the 6s and ARF+ models have already departed the factory, which is why we have opened the pre-order for those two formats. However, the 8s PNP production was not completed before Chinese New Year (which effectively began today). So, we are not pre-ordering the 8s PNP at this time. We prefer to only pre-order product once it has left the factory. We'll start the 8s PNP's pre-order once that production run departs the factory, but that won't be for several weeks, at least. Chinese New Year spans weeks before and after the actual holiday period, due to many, many factors. Fun Fact: The largest migration in human history takes place each year from this region, when ~80%+ of the provinces leave the cities to visit their hometowns out in the countryside. Tens of millions of people!

                        I personally prefer the 6s, and, like the recent Avanti and A-10, I assume most people will leave it stock after they fly the stock setup. We tailored the ducting of the F-4 specifically to the 6s PNP's power system. The 8s is ballistic, sure, but it lands faster and I wouldn't recommend landing it on excessively rough terrain except with confidence (and a headwind). This jet deserved being offered in all three flavors.

                        Crxmanpat, the HET1680 will go great. We ran one of the prototypes on HET1500 and HET1680. Watch those amps, depending on which fan you're running on it.
                        Alpha,

                        Thanks for the info. Already ordered the 6 cell version. Should go well with the Avanti, F86, A10, A4 and DH-112 Venom

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                        • James
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                          • Aug 2017
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                          #52
                          I need to see the F-4 in a formation with the A-4 and the A-6!

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                          • Porkster

                            • Mar 2017
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                            #53
                            Originally posted by themudduck
                            Hey - what's with the "3D" control throws I see in the first video, what's up with that?
                            I noticed that too. Is it because they are in the middle of the wing and not very long ?

                            Anyway, well done Motion, it looks a cracking F4.

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                            • Bajora
                              AA6JB

                              • Jan 2016
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                              #54
                              Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC
                              Bajora, stellar photos, as always! I suspect Borntoolate and the Crows Crew may tempt you down there at some point soon?
                              We NEED to all meet up out at Crows like we talked about doing a year or so back. ;)

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                              • Ron lake
                                Hobby Squawk Intermediate Pilot

                                • Dec 2016
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                                #55
                                Like Motion says this is for Advanced/Experts!

                                Fair warning for new edf pilots while a camouflage F-4 looks awesome on the ground they are hard to see in the sky when banking! I would recommend a temporary bright color on a wingtip or the vertical stabilizer until you get use to the roll characteristics of this model. Cheers!

                                Well done Motion!

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                                • runway14left
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                                  #56
                                  THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I've been waiting for a good Phantom for so long! Pre-order submitted!

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                                  • S.W.Warbirds
                                    Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                                    • Jan 2015
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                                    #57
                                    In my best Higgins voice from Magnum PI ((( OH My God )))

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                                    • themudduck
                                      -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

                                      • Apr 2017
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                                      #58
                                      Originally posted by Porkster

                                      I noticed that too. Is it because they are in the middle of the wing and not very long ?

                                      Anyway, well done Motion, it looks a cracking F4.
                                      In the video it looked like the right flap was going WAY up. So I got a screen-grab here.....

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                                      Just like Porkster said, the ailerons are not out on the wingtips, they're in the middle of the wing and they're kind of stubby. The throw still seems excessive but it is a pretty small aileron.

                                      In this screen shot (from the same video) it looks very normal...

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                                      Anyway - the model looks fantastic. Someone should post a pic of it sitting next to a Scooter.
                                      Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

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                                      • bill34207
                                        Jet Junkie

                                        • Nov 2016
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                                        #59
                                        Button pushed for ARF Plus. 300189
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                                        • PikeStaff
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                                          • May 2013
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                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by themudduck

                                          The flaps are in the middle of the wing, but it does have ailerons. In the video the right flap was going up to almost vertical! Very odd..
                                          MD, the Phantoms flaps butt up hard up against the fuselage - where they should be. The ails are in “the middle of the wing”.

                                          And a 1:1 Phantoms flaps drop way, way down; like 70+ degrees from retracted. They’re really huge airbrakes that also add a little lift.


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