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  • apmech1
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    • Jan 2014
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    #101
    Sure, I will do that this evening.

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    • Elbee
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      • Feb 2018
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      #102
      Originally posted by Hardway
      Looking great ! What is the FS number for the F-4 interior color? I know all the German & US Interior colors from WWII, but not the Phantom. Thanks!
      I am certain the "official" color was FS 36231, then called Dark Gull Grey by USAF and probably the USN as well. I know I'm getting old----er, but I seem to remember most of the pit on the D,E, and RF's back in the mid 80's as rather a dark grey or black with the control boxes and instruments as either black or textured black finish. As a side note, the Federal Standard (FS) 595a colors catalog was available for free from the US General Services Administration which includes the color plates. Color plates are approximately 1" x 1/2". I have one with updates dated from the late 80's and I know I didn't buy it. I presume this would still be available. Best, Elbee
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      • Elbee
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        #103
        Originally posted by bbaumer


        Well, I've run into my first problem regarding scale and this is the sort of thing you need to keep in mind when working with semi scale models. It turns out the controlling factor that I didnt take into consideration was the center to center of the rails molded into the fuselage of the F4. Even though I scaled the missile close to the models scale ( about 11.5) , its "wingspan" goes past the centerline of the model significantly.

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        So now I have to decide whether to scale down the entire missile ( to about 1:12.5 to make it work) or cheat something with the geometry on the fins.
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        • bbaumer
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          #104
          Well then maybe I don’t have a problem

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          • bbaumer
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            #105
            Originally posted by apmech1
            Sure, I will do that this evening.
            Hold off on that, I'm trying somethings with my own model and printer settings, but thank you

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            • apmech1
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              #106
              Just finished the SUU23.

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              • Dirty Dee
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                #107
                You know you gotta do this with your plane now :)

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                • Hardway
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                  #108
                  Who needs an A-10 anyway.? LOL

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                  • apmech1
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Dirty Dee
                    You know you gotta do this with your plane now :)
                    I love it!

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                    • bbaumer
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                      #110
                      And there we have it. A little glue, a little filler, and some paint and I think I’m good to go!

                      Thanks to apmech for poInting me in the direction of layer thickness, I learned a little bit in the process and cut my print times in half while keeping an acceptable quality.

                      I’ve got just a little tweaking to do and will share files for anyone interested.

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                      • ryramZ
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                        #111
                        Here's some progress on "Go Navy"

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                        • Elbee
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by bbaumer
                          And there we have it. A little glue, a little filler, and some paint and I think I’m good to go!...
                          Bbaumer, This looks great. An F-4 is a bit under-dressed w/o Sparrows. Besides you don't want to be a 'grape' up there. Best, Elbee
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                          • RCjetdude
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by apmech1
                            Just finished the SUU23.
                            Looking good. So, you doing the centerline tank next? :Drooling:

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                            • RCjetdude
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by bbaumer
                              And there we have it. A little glue, a little filler, and some paint and I think I’m good to go!

                              Thanks to apmech for poInting me in the direction of layer thickness, I learned a little bit in the process and cut my print times in half while keeping an acceptable quality.

                              I’ve got just a little tweaking to do and will share files for anyone interested.
                              Awesome! Looking forward to the file. Thank you.

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                              • bbaumer
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                                #115
                                Ok, here is the file, I've set this up to be a full print, within a Z limit of 100mm which is a personal restriction of my printer

                                Note this file is in imperial units, and should be imported in inches) the diameters should check out to be 0.6933" or about 17.6mm

                                Other Notes:

                                I recommend using rafts particularly at the fins, and supports in the hollow areas of the cylinders and the bottom of the cone

                                I went with about 10% interior fill pattern, and this still weighs in at about 47grams in PLA ( but we all need a little nose weight anyway it seems)

                                4 fins forward and rear are included, but you may only need 3 depending on your mounting method.

                                There are no indexes include to align the sections, a bit of modelling skill will be required.

                                The fins are compression fit, and you may need to trim/sand/chamfer the edges to get them into the slots, depending on the shrinkage of your material and accuracy of your print.

                                If you are an absolute scale nut, this is not that, it's designed to fit well on this model and give the appearance of a full scale missile.

                                If anyone really needs or wants this broken into individual components, let me know, or the cad file is available as well.

                                Use at your own risk, and good luck!

                                I think Estes may make smaller rockets than this!

                                8.5 hour print, I'm seeing a few offsets, nothing a little prep work won't cure , I could have gone for thinner layers, but I think for their purpose these will be fine, and I hadnt done a full set print yet, wanted to prove the file was good to go

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                                • apmech1
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by RCjetdude

                                  Looking good. So, you doing the centerline tank next? :Drooling:
                                  yep in work now.

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                                  • apmech1
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                                    #117
                                    SUU 23. Came up with some better interlocking pins. .STL File is >5MB Zipped. Maybe I can send the files to one of the moderators and they can add them.

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                                    • apmech1
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                                      #118
                                      600 Gallon Fuel tank. I didn't have that good of drawings to go off of on this one. There are 2 stl files for this one and they are huge.

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                                      • apmech1
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by bbaumer
                                        And there we have it. A little glue, a little filler, and some paint and I think I’m good to go!

                                        Thanks to apmech for poInting me in the direction of layer thickness, I learned a little bit in the process and cut my print times in half while keeping an acceptable quality.

                                        I’ve got just a little tweaking to do and will share files for anyone interested.
                                        Click image for larger version

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ID:	126993Those look awesome! I just updated all my files with the 2 pin system. really lines them up good.... Now I just need a plane to put them on! :)

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                                        • Dirty Dee
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                                          #120
                                          apmech1, you should create a thingiverse account to host your designs. several people have been uploading parts specific for their freewing planes on that site.

                                          regarding the 600 gallon fuel tank, I have one I made in 1/10th scale and confirmed via the software that it is sized correctly for 600gallons. you can download the file and import in into yours, scale it for reference if you want. Or I can export from solidworks to another format that you can use.

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