FMS 80MM Dassault Rafale

[Icarus the 2nd]

Meet the first 8S powered FMS Rafale 😎

Hi everyone, here's my FMS Rafale equipped with a 8S Wemotec 80mm EDF combo.

It transforms the draggy & slow Rafale into a fast & nimble EDF.

There's a lot of measurement numbers at the end of the vid and also some installation info.

[kallend]

MICA/IR missiles on the tip rails and MICA/EM underwing.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4839852 for the .STL files.

[Radar-Guy]

Another selection of nozzles (incl. 90, 95 and 100% FSA) can be found here:

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/fms-rafale-80mm-edf-nozzles

[kallend]

The stock missiles are not scale.

I have posted a Mica IR for the Rafale on Thingiverse. It is a common wingtip missile (along with the Matra Magic).

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4839852

I have also posted some nozzles with 100% FSA (as well as looking better than the stock nozzles). They give a modest thrust improvement.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4827133

[Tigerman]

Just Maiden my FMS Rafale. Really like this model, not the fasted but fast enough for me. Did not like the colour scheme at first but it has grown on me and at least you can see it OK when flying and this model fly really well. Turn out to be my favourite EDF

[kallend]

Here are the 3DP nozzles I designed. Exit diameter 52mm.

Measured static thrust 2.7kg at 102 Amps peak current, Gens 5,000mAh pack at 18 degrees C.

[Evan D]

My flying of the F-15 is limited to maidening one for a friend. It flew very very well. I'm not a fan of the F-15 in general and don't like the graphics on the Arrows but it flies very well...

Evan,
You liking the Arrows F-15? Interested. Holding out for a new FW edf announcement. But I might be waiting for the cows to come home

[xviper]

I pre-ordered but like viper, I wasn't liking what I was hearing or seeing. Then I decided WTH, and reordered. She's absolutely gorgeous. Fit and finish the best I've seen. Great scale detail for the price point. Eg rectangular shaped landing lights, sequenced gear doors.

The livery really grew on me over time. Great visibility. Have plenty of gull gray jets to satisfy military allegiance. Low flight time ? Not a show stopper for me. 3 min is okay. Fast ? No. The Gripen will pass it like she's standing still. Added a fiery booty AB from Gooniac. Gonna mod some thrust tubes or nozzles later. The sound is amazing.
Nevertheless, FW is long overdue for a new edf. Hoping for a Panther/ Cougar.

I may end up like you but in 2 to 3 months. I've yet to maiden my Gripen - waiting for them to get the runway smoother after the spring thaw. They need to roller it to take all the bounce out (lumps and bumps). If the Gripen turns out to be satisfying and delicious, the Rafale will wait quite a bit longer.

[dahawk]

I pre-ordered but like viper, I wasn't liking what I was hearing or seeing. Then I decided WTH, and reordered. She's absolutely gorgeous. Fit and finish the best I've seen. Great scale detail for the price point. Eg rectangular shaped landing lights, sequenced gear doors.

The livery really grew on me over time. Great visibility. Have plenty of gull gray jets to satisfy military allegiance. Low flight time ? Not a show stopper for me. 3 min is okay. Fast ? No. The Gripen will pass it like she's standing still. Added a fiery booty AB from Gooniac. Gonna mod some thrust tubes or nozzles later. The sound is amazing.
Nevertheless, FW is long overdue for a new edf. Hoping for a Panther/ Cougar.

[dahawk]

Same person that did the Arrows twin 64 F-15!

Evan,
You liking the Arrows F-15? Interested. Holding out for a new FW edf announcement. But I might be waiting for the cows to come home

[kallend]

I've been challenged to produce an afterburner to fit in the confined space behind the motor, and new (3DP) exhaust nozzles.

So I ordered one today.

What exit diameter for the nozzles would be appropriate? I was thinking 50 - 52 mm or thereabouts.

[xviper]

I actually ordered one. Then I started to read these forums. I cancelled.

[DCORSAIR]

Okay okay, back on topic, it is too funny though, I was just joking about that bright ugly show scheme, it's not that bad, I actually almost ordered one, then I woke up.

[xviper]

It's physics... Or so I've been told.

With the latest discoveries by CERN (and others) about the new muon particles changing how we view physics, UP will soon become DOWN. Gravity won't be the same anymore. Ours eyes will no longer capture color as they once did. An invisible cape will attract a bull more than a bright red one. Model airplanes will be made to defy the laws of physics far easier than full size ones due to less influence of muons on a smaller body.
Oh, and Canada and the northern USA will become "down under".

[SanExup]

It's about light reflection and absorption, if you watch YouTube videos of the real jets, you'll notice the colorful ones all fly way better than than the grey ones, so it's for better performance. That's why Ferraris and Ducatis are red.

[DCORSAIR]

It's physics... Or so I've been told.

[Evan D]

It's physics... Or so I've been told.

[DCORSAIR]

Whatever floats your boat. I have enough plain grey planes already.

Airshow schemes are designed to be seen, not designed to be hard to see.

Wow, I didn't know air show schemes were meant to be seen, learn something new every day...

So that's why the Blue Angels is a beautiful blue and bright yellow, and the T-Birds a gloss white with bright red/blue..

[kallend]

Looks nice, makes you wonder who was thinking that more people were going to like that stock ugly yellow scheme over a real front line fighter scheme...

Whatever floats your boat. I have enough plain grey planes already.

Airshow schemes are designed to be seen, not designed to be hard to see.

[xviper]

I've all but fallen off the fence on this one. Might be a slim chance I'll reconsider when summer gets here and I get rid of a couple more planes. However, on the subject of the paint scheme, I prefer the bright colored ones. If I had the same, drab, military grey color on all my modern EDFs, I would have a hard time seeing the difference when I walk into the hanger. It would be wall to wall (ceiling to ceiling) grey - pretty boring. Then there's the visibility thing when flying them. If I was in the real thing in a combat mission, trying to hide from the bad guys, that's a different story. I have a few military grey planes at the moment and that's a few too many. I won't buy any more.