FMS 80MM Dassault Rafale

[jetdoc]

It is just astounding the difference the FMS fans make in the Su-30. Totally transforms the plane from a overweight pig into a screaming beast. I fly with two 4000 packs instead of one 6000 giving 4:30 min flights. Best jet I've ever flown bar none...including the Mig-29.

Agreed! The difference in performance is amazing! I fly from grass and with the Eflite motors the Su-30 was a pig. The FMS motors made it a joy to fly. As I stated before regarding the Rafale, the original Eflite motors in the Sukhoi had a lower kV rating than their FMS counterparts. In the Rafale it was 2000kV vs 2100kV.

[jetdoc]

I bought mine direct from Horizon and it had the FMS 3280-2100kV inrunner installed. It was PNP and did not have a "proprietary (overpriced) AS3X receiver" in it. The description states CLEARLY that it has an EC5 connector.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/rafale-80mm-edf-jet-pnp-973-mm/FMM131P.html

Sorry, but the description of the one purchased for me clearly stated that it had an XT90 connector, Reflex V2 and the FMS 3280-2100kV inrunner installed. The connector isn't a big deal. Five minutes ti fix that. Also, I didn't imply that the HH version that I'm convinced I received had the "proprietary (overpriced) AS3X receiver" in it either. Clearly, it was set up to receive one by the end user though. Didn't mean to offend any HH employees or stockholders.

[radfordc]

I ran into the same issue with my Eflite Su-30. The Eflite motors it came with were less powerful than the FMS motors in the FMS Su-27 which is the same plane, unavailable in the US due to a "marketing" agreement with FMS. In that instance I was able to purchase the more powerful FMS motors from RC Castle in Hong Kong as well, which improved the performance of my Su-30 noticeably.

It is just astounding the difference the FMS fans make in the Su-30. Totally transforms the plane from a overweight pig into a screaming beast. I fly with two 4000 packs instead of one 6000 giving 4:30 min flights. Best jet I've ever flown bar none...including the Mig-29.

[Evan D]

Yeah, I think he is unfairly targeting HH for issues they are not responsible for. He bought a plane from a gray market vendor and got burned. No surprise. Lucky he got it through Amazon though.

[kallend]

My Rafale was a birthday gift from my wife. At the time, the only available FMS 80mm Rafales were on Amazon from a third party seller called "Fair RC". The Rafale was advertised as having an FMS 3280-2100kV inrunner and Reflex V2 installed. Well, upon receipt of the plane I found that it had not an FMS, but an Eflite motor installed and was only a 3270-2000kV. It also had an EC5 esc connector instead of the advertised XT90 and no Reflex system installed whatsoever. Obviously this kit was meant to have been sold by Horizon Hobby along with one of their proprietary (overpriced) AS3X receivers. I contacted Fair RC and they had since sold out or the Rafale so a return wasn't an option. I ordered the correct FMS motor from RC Castle, replaced the EC5 with an XT90 and after a bit of negotiating Fair RC agreed to reimburse my credit card (through Amazon, of course) for all my expenses and trouble and to send me a Reflex V2 module pre-programmed for the Rafale. The refund has already posted and all my parts are showing they will arrive today. I was skeptical of Fair RC but it's only "fair" that I give them a shout-out for making things right. What concerns me in all of this is that it appears as if Horizon is selling an inferior product at premium prices. I ran into the same issue with my Eflite Su-30. The Eflite motors it came with were less powerful than the FMS motors in the FMS Su-27 which is the same plane, unavailable in the US due to a "marketing" agreement with FMS. In that instance I was able to purchase the more powerful FMS motors from RC Castle in Hong Kong as well, which improved the performance of my Su-30 noticeably. These instances have further distanced me from any further business with Horizon in the future. "Caveat Emptor"! Buyer beware!

I bought mine direct from Horizon and it had the FMS 3280-2100kV inrunner installed. It was PNP and did not have a "proprietary (overpriced) AS3X receiver" in it. The description states CLEARLY that it has an EC5 connector.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/rafale-80mm-edf-jet-pnp-973-mm/FMM131P.html

[jetdoc]

My Rafale was a birthday gift from my wife. At the time, the only available FMS 80mm Rafales were on Amazon from a third party seller called "Fair RC". The Rafale was advertised as having an FMS 3280-2100kV inrunner and Reflex V2 installed. Well, upon receipt of the plane I found that it had not an FMS, but an Eflite motor installed and was only a 3270-2000kV. It also had an EC5 esc connector instead of the advertised XT90 and no Reflex system installed whatsoever. Obviously this kit was meant to have been sold by Horizon Hobby along with one of their proprietary (overpriced) AS3X receivers. I contacted Fair RC and they had since sold out or the Rafale so a return wasn't an option. I ordered the correct FMS motor from RC Castle, replaced the EC5 with an XT90 and after a bit of negotiating Fair RC agreed to reimburse my credit card (through Amazon, of course) for all my expenses and trouble and to send me a Reflex V2 module pre-programmed for the Rafale. The refund has already posted and all my parts are showing they will arrive today. I was skeptical of Fair RC but it's only "fair" that I give them a shout-out for making things right. What concerns me in all of this is that it appears as if Horizon is selling an inferior product at premium prices. I ran into the same issue with my Eflite Su-30. The Eflite motors it came with were less powerful than the FMS motors in the FMS Su-27 which is the same plane, unavailable in the US due to a "marketing" agreement with FMS. In that instance I was able to purchase the more powerful FMS motors from RC Castle in Hong Kong as well, which improved the performance of my Su-30 noticeably. These instances have further distanced me from any further business with Horizon in the future. "Caveat Emptor"! Buyer beware!

[Icarus the 2nd]

Here's another vid made while I was flying in Germany with friends, enjoy!

I must say this Rafale is my favorite EDF right now

[Cobbster]

Had my rafe up today , I love this plane! I had to flash the reflex three times before it felt right but its rock solid now,dont really need the stabilizer,Im flying at the back of the CG range and its never given hint of instability.Good Fun Day!!

[kallend]

Not our runway. We fly from dirt/grass that makes that one look like a ballroom dance floor! That's the Kansas City RC club runway.

Your friend should choose a Spitfire camo scheme if he uses a Spit's squadron markings and WW2 roundels.

The RAF did a Eurofighter in a Battle of Britain Hurricane scheme back in 2015.

[radfordc]

Rafale in WW2 RAF scheme?

(Your runway could do with some TLC.)

Not our runway. We fly from dirt/grass that makes that one look like a ballroom dance floor! That's the Kansas City RC club runway.

[kallend]

My friend's repaint.

Rafale in WW2 RAF scheme?

(Your runway could do with some TLC.)

[DCORSAIR]

My friend's repaint.

Now if it came like that I would consider buying one, looks awesome.

[Icarus the 2nd]

My friend's repaint.

Awesome!

[radfordc]

My friend's repaint.

[xviper]

Good to know about the gear. I’m not rushing to the hobby shop to order one of these but if HH ever puts a sale on for them, I might reconsider.

[Icarus the 2nd]

That was really rough and bumpy. How does the gear hold up to all that bouncing around?

Yeah our field is really bumpy with a lot of holes. The landing gear on the other hand is really good, no adjustments needed so far. There's several other FMS Rafale owners that are really happy with the sturdy landing gear

[kallend]

Meteor BVRAAM missile scaled for the Rafale:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4864392

For those who are unfamiliar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_(missile)

[xviper]

Here's my first Rafale vid again, 6S stock plane with a 6S 5000HRB lipo, 4 minutes in total

That was really rough and bumpy. How does the gear hold up to all that bouncing around?

[Icarus the 2nd]

Hi Madness, on the stock 6S setup I got 4minutes easily with my mixed throttle flying style. Keep in mind that I burn a lot of electrons already during the take-off from grass

Here's my first Rafale vid again, 6S stock plane with a 6S 5000HRB lipo, 4 minutes in total.

[Madness]

Hi all! How much flight time are you guys getting from a 5,000 mah pack on average on this plane?