FMS 80MM Dassault Rafale

[dahawk]

In case you haven't seen Rich's latest vid, here it is. https://youtu.be/YRwusPhHu64

2.5 min portal to portal. 4000mah Spektrum batt.

[Mizer67]

I'm on 4000's and 8S at ~820 grams and can only squeak out ~2:45 at high 3.7's if I take it easy on the throttle.

Granted I'm running the "hot" setup, a 1865kv motor with the 80mm Jetfan. I'm also having a lot of battery voltage sag issues.

Flight time is not the Gripen's forte. Think the Rafale will be similar.

[Evan D]

Remember that 8S carries 33% more watts than a same size 6S... So that converts to 3:15. Though you really can't directly convert since one is going to use throttle differently on 8S than 6S and I have TVs...

But then my 8S 5200 is 880g and there are 6000+ 6S packs that weigh that... Really a apples and oranges comparison.

[dahawk]

That's pretty darn good !

[Evan D]

Mine isn't stock so don't go by what I have.

I have a 8S JF/ HET 1738kV set up with 5200's. Before the TVs I was running 4:50. The TVs do rob about 5-10%, plus I'm more on the throttle, so my timer is now 4:20.

[dahawk]

Yeah, know first hand what you guys mean about delta's being power mongers. I'd be ecstatic with 4 minutes. I'd be real happy with 3.5 min. Borderline ( meh ) happy with 3 min. Not so happy under 3 minutes. We'll see what Bajora and Rich Baker have to say on the matter. Evan, what kind of flight times are you seeing on the Gripen?

[Evan D]

In general delta's are power hungry. While I absolutely love how my Gripen flies it sucks the trons. I'm sure some, but not all, is due to having so much fun flying it.

[T-CAT]

The problem (for me, so I don’t want to generalize) is that the longer a preorder exists, the more time I have to change my mind and purchase a plethora of other products that get released to the market during that time frame. I’d rather RC manufacturers and distributors have a product in stock and ready to ship ASAP upon new product announcements.

[xviper]

With each "new" video that shows up, it becomes clear that the overall impression this plane gives is the ridiculously low flight times. Except for the ones that FMS put out at the beginning, where they sliced, diced and spliced together clips to make a video, all the ones I've seen from privateers show flight times ranging from below 2 minutes to barely 2.5 minutes (2' 20" to be more precise). The more videos I see, the more I'm having second thoughts on this one. And now that the release date has been pushed forward another month, I've got more weeks to cancel my order from the LHS.
Keep those vids coming. It may save me a few hundred bucks.

[dahawk]

FWIW, here's a vid from Thailand: https://youtu.be/f8PUHxLaXno

[Captain Moron]

Looks like the Rafale will not be avaliable then until min March at the earliest then :thumbsdown:

[dahawk]

My hope is that the US shipment is already on the water.

Chinese New Year shutdown 2021 timeline


Chinese New Year officially begins on February 12, 2021, so suppliers will begin slowing down or stopping production a week or so before. We recommend you ask your suppliers when their offices and factories will be closed throughout the holiday. Below is a rule of thumb schedule for the Chinese New Year holiday.

• End of January: Suppliers will begin to stop production.
• Early February: Employees begin leaving the factories.
• February 11: All employees have left the factory.
• February 12: Chinese New Year.
• End of February: Employees begin arriving back at the factories.
• March 4: Most employees have returned.
• March 11: Operations are almost back to normal.

[dahawk]

And for only about $20K more than we're paying, can a get the 1/7th scale turbine version.

https://youtu.be/R7jbBS7xJnY

[dahawk]

Here's the full scale. FMS did a nice job in replication. I am tempted to play around with a swing open canopy.

https://youtu.be/y8vMpD57X8w

[xviper]

Yeah, saw those on the other forum this morning. For sure, Rich's video will have more information.

[dahawk]

It's a private group. Can't read anything. You should quote what it says.

https://youtu.be/E8PjW0FIKkw

https://youtu.be/h90M4MHfgI0

New vids from you tube. Can't wait for Rich Baker to publish his vid. Maybe because of the shipment delay, HH is holding off on the vid. Who knows ?

[xviper]

On Horizon site: now pushed to March.

[xviper]

From Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2134550253447552/permalink/2970891839813385/

Fast enough for me

It's a private group. Can't read anything. You should quote what it says.

[dahawk]

From Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2134550253447552/permalink/2970891839813385/

Fast enough for me

[Captain Moron]

Well I have been torn between buying the Freewing Gripen and the FMS Rafale and kept swinging from one to the other but Brexit has made the decision for me The Gripen is on the European warehouse at 429 euros that is at the exchange rate at the moment about £380 But just calculated it,if I buy the Gripen from Europe ,what with all the exchange rates and admin fee from the credit card and courier ,it will now cost me £44 more coming out at £424 for a £380 model plus it has been out of stock for ages .Think I will pre order the Rafale .Sorry Motion RC but you are becoming to expensive and to much hassle to buy from.,Not Motion RC fault but that is life