FMS 80MM Dassault Rafale

[dahawk]

Manfred,

No I really did not realize that the livery is representative of a full scale. Now I know. Thought someone got drunk in the art department. Crazy French

[kallend]

Yes, FMS is one of a few that does update their lanes into V2, 3, etc ... I find it interesting those in the FreeWing threads like the big Mig saying that "when they release a V2" they will fix this and that. FreeWing almost never has an official V2. They do upgrade power systems but that's when they discontinue an older system. I think it's crazy that the F-14 which has been selling for years still has an upside down decal on it. How long with the Gripen have a misspelled decal?

My Eurofighter is officially a V2, my two F-35s are a V2 and a V3, there have been several iterations of the power system (9 or 12B, inrunner or outrunner) for the Avanti and Mirage, and we have HP versions of several.

I'm fairly sure the stock Eurofighter had a mispelled decal to the end of its run (I can't check because mine is painted over and has Callie graphics, which themselves have an incorrect serial number for GINA).

[MANFRED]

Yes sir, saw that description on Turbinesrc. Includes the FMS stabalizer also. I didn't see this same write up on Horizon so I can't confirm exactly what they are including. I'm hoping they didn't order a watered down version to keep the cost down .They are showing the pre- order price reduced about $90. That's a lot of cool gadgetry for the price.

I see they show a max batt size of 5000mah. and a max flight time of 3 min. They know how to manage customer expectations. I'm already thinking 6000mah and 4 min. Lol.

The color is growing on me.Was aghast at first. Chris from RC Geek has a video up on You Tube showing a BVM version in the same livery. I think that was the final nudge to make me click on the buy button.Good enough for a $20k turbine, good enough for me. Ha

You do realize that is an actual paint scheme representing an actual aircraft?

[Evan D]

Yes, FMS is one of a few that does update their lanes into V2, 3, etc ... I find it interesting those in the FreeWing threads like the big Mig saying that "when they release a V2" they will fix this and that. FreeWing almost never has an official V2. They do upgrade power systems but that's when they discontinue an older system. I think it's crazy that the F-14 which has been selling for years still has an upside down decal on it. How long with the Gripen have a misspelled decal?

[xviper]

Or do a V2 or V3, then the "original" price goes way up and they give you the same "discount" or keep the same original price and give you a smaller discount. ---- A genius way to grab a few more sales.

[Evan D]

Right before they discontinue it...

[xviper]

They are showing the pre- order price reduced about $90.

Like most Horizon pricing, I think you'll find that's also going to be the post-order price and likely the "forever" price unless they can't sell enough of them by next year's black Friday sale.

[dahawk]

From other sites. Note flaps...


Functions such as delta-mixing, sequential landing gear bay doors, alternating flash navigation lights, nose gear landing lights, slowed flaps etc are all controlled by a central control board. An 80mm 12 bladed EDF with a platinum edition 3280 inrunner motor and 100A high performance ESC easily accomplishes fighter jets maneuvers with realistic sound and speed.

Yes sir, saw that description on Turbinesrc. Includes the FMS stabalizer also. I didn't see this same write up on Horizon so I can't confirm exactly what they are including. I'm hoping they didn't order a watered down version to keep the cost down .They are showing the pre- order price reduced about $90. That's a lot of cool gadgetry for the price.

I see they show a max batt size of 5000mah. and a max flight time of 3 min. They know how to manage customer expectations. I'm already thinking 6000mah and 4 min. Lol.

The color is growing on me.Was aghast at first. Chris from RC Geek has a video up on You Tube showing a BVM version in the same livery. I think that was the final nudge to make me click on the buy button.Good enough for a $20k turbine, good enough for me. Ha

[xviper]

Well, you jumped and paid the price. Sadly Sir, you and I are in the same boat when the "Shipping & Exchange Pirates" exact their toll on our "Empire Loyalist" purchases and we'll never see a good deal. The Freewing and the FMS have a "head to head" price. They are thinly sliced. It's tight. Both companies want volumes of buyers. Not sure which will be the "best seller". They are both modern awesome planes. I'm not an aviation engineer. I truly don't know down to the rivet which plane is the best over the other, but, in the end, life is; "Sex, death and machines".....

Not to be misunderstood, I didn't get one back in Oct. The price was just too much, so I got the Gripen when it came in stock. I'll get the Rafale from my local hobby shop when it's available, too. Both planes have the concept that I like, so I'll take both. I'll avoid all the comparisons that have been posted up on both forums and judge for myself next spring when I can maiden both. Comparisons without actually flying them is meaningless to me. The so called "experts" have shown they can be just as WRONG as many times as they can be right. It's always more fun to get first hand exposure and then go back and see all the armchair aeronautical engineering ph.D's (piled higher and deeper) pre-release calculations and fictional experience reviews.

[AirHead]

So ............................ who just had to have one and paid $600.00 back in October and had it shipped from Europe?

Well, you jumped and paid the price. Sadly Sir, you and I are in the same boat when the "Shipping & Exchange Pirates" exact their toll on our "Empire Loyalist" purchases and we'll never see a good deal. The Freewing and the FMS have a "head to head" price. They are thinly sliced. It's tight. Both companies want volumes of buyers. Not sure which will be the "best seller". They are both modern awesome planes. I'm not an aviation engineer. I truly don't know down to the rivet which plane is the best over the other, but, in the end, life is; "Sex, death and machines".....

[xviper]

$409! Exact same price as the Freewing Gripen. The Rafale is 9 inches shorter, but 3 inches wider. It has a 2100kv instead of a 1920kv. There are some who don't dig the yellow and blue scheme, but that's the freedom to express, I guess. Something different instead of usual military grey...I'm sure everyone will have one of each...

So ............................ who just had to have one and paid $600.00 back in October and had it shipped from Europe?

[Evan D]

Not so sure...

[AirHead]

Pre-ordered. Pretty good intro price @ 409+ tax Nice specs anyway. 55 x 38 which is bigger than I had envisioned. Lights, gear doors, canards.etc. The new 2100kv in runner. Horizon doesn't mention it but the other write ups say there's a new control board that handles the mixes.

$409! Exact same price as the Freewing Gripen. The Rafale is 9 inches shorter, but 3 inches wider. It has a 2100kv instead of a 1920kv. There are some who don't dig the yellow and blue scheme, but that's the freedom to express, I guess. Something different instead of usual military grey...I'm sure everyone will have one of each...

[Evan D]

From other sites. Note flaps...


Functions such as delta-mixing, sequential landing gear bay doors, alternating flash navigation lights, nose gear landing lights, slowed flaps etc are all controlled by a central control board. An 80mm 12 bladed EDF with a platinum edition 3280 inrunner motor and 100A high performance ESC easily accomplishes fighter jets maneuvers with realistic sound and speed.

[dahawk]

Pre-ordered. Pretty good intro price @ 409+ tax Nice specs anyway. 55 x 38 which is bigger than I had envisioned. Lights, gear doors, canards.etc. The new 2100kv in runner. Horizon doesn't mention it but the other write ups say there's a new control board that handles the mixes.

[xviper]

No. In my experience HH only charges when the item ships.

That's the way it ought to be done.

[kallend]

Did they take your money already?

No. In my experience HH only charges when the item ships.

[xviper]

Not only listed, but they accepted my pre-order and sent a confirmation.

Did they take your money already?

[kallend]

But it is listed on the Horizon site:

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/rafale-80mm-edf-pnp/FMM131P.html

Not only listed, but they accepted my pre-order and sent a confirmation.

[xviper]

Has NEVER been a horizon consideration, and they are currently thinking about the viability of a version with a military scheme.

But it is listed on the Horizon site:

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/rafale-80mm-edf-pnp/FMM131P.html

Since you have friends in the FMS factory, can you comment on the rumor that FMS will once again begin to sell their products directly to consumers in N. America in the New Year? Horizon has currently put the nix on this policy.