Official Freewing JAS 39 Gripen 80mm EDF Jet

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  • Evan D
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    • Jan 2016
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    #1641
    As noted balance and adding tail weight has been heavily discussed on this thread and the RCG one. Most added 80-100g to get a good balance and the balance most have found to their liking has been 10-15mm behind the book CG. Adding the TV tail makes the balance about perfect, like they designed it to have it.

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    • kallend
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      #1642
      Originally posted by Evan D
      Adding the TV tail makes the balance about perfect, like they designed it to have it.
      Wishing now I had ordered it from Raymond instead of patiently waiting for MRC to have it.

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      • janmb
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        • Jan 2018
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        #1643
        Originally posted by Evan D
        As noted balance and adding tail weight has been heavily discussed on this thread and the RCG one. Most added 80-100g to get a good balance and the balance most have found to their liking has been 10-15mm behind the book CG. Adding the TV tail makes the balance about perfect, like they designed it to have it.
        If combined with very light batteries, yes.
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        • Evan D
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          #1644
          "Very light batteries"... depends on your definition. Mine (I'm 8S) are 880g, not what I would call very light but I realize my set up is not stock. The TV unit weighed more than the portion of the fuselage it replaced plus the 80g of lead I added so for me it was perfect. And with that I am, and was, significantly behind the book CG. I don't remember, Jan, what was your set up? Did you put the TVs on it before you crashed it (I seem to recall you crashed or that may have been Jandro) and where were you balancing it at?

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          • janmb
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            #1645
            Originally posted by Evan D
            "Very light batteries"... depends on your definition. Mine (I'm 8S) are 880g, not what I would call very light but I realize my set up is not stock. The TV unit weighed more than the portion of the fuselage it replaced plus the 80g of lead I added so for me it was perfect. And with that I am, and was, significantly behind the book CG. I don't remember, Jan, what was your set up? Did you put the TVs on it before you crashed it (I seem to recall you crashed or that may have been Jandro) and where were you balancing it at?
            Haven't had any mishaps with my Gripen. Only flew it four flights on EDF power, without vectoring, before converting it.

            I never had the stock EDF in it either, so my experiences are probably not representative. I had additional CG challenges due to a lighter than stock fan.

            Then again it's no secret I love aft cg more than most :)
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            • Denar76
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              #1646
              One of the few Gripens that made a touch and go in the EU warehouse arrived in Sweden today...
              It will get a Swedish livery before airborne because... well I guess it's pretty obvious...

              Thanks for a lot of useful tips and discussions in the thread so far...

              Dennis

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              • Pogo
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                • Jan 2017
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                #1647
                The nice thing about a fictional demo scheme is it can keep evolving. I added rondels to the bottom of the canards today, vinyl from somewhere I've had for years in the stash.
                Tom
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                • Pogo
                  Getting old but still immature

                  • Jan 2017
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                  #1648
                  Due to the extra weight of the cockpit the model still needed lead in the tail so I decided to attempt making the air (or speed) brakes functional and add useful weight. This looks pretty rough but some filler, paint, and covers will help- but at least it works!
                  I fooled around with the hinging and eventually put the bottom one outside the skin- not scale but it's the only way the panel would open. I don't think SAAB got it right...
                  Tom
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                  • Gary S.
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                    #1649

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ID:	298363This is how I fixed the weight distribution issue.... Moved the motor back. 8S no counterweight.

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                    • Evan D
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                      #1650
                      Nice! When you can more info please.

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                      • James
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                        • Aug 2017
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                        #1651
                        The Gripen TV unit is available now: https://www.motionrc.com/products/fr...or-upgrade-set

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                        • Evan D
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                          #1652
                          Thanks! I ordered them, Gripen and MiG earlier. Life is good.

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                          • TangoVector
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                            • Feb 2019
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                            #1653
                            Originally I was going to get a TV-unit straight away, now it won't fit since it is too narrow. Being nose heavy will not be a problem I hope.

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                            • Evan D
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                              #1654
                              Why are you saying too narrow TV? What did you do?


                              Originally posted by TangoVector
                              Originally I was going to get a TV-unit straight away, now it won't fit since it is too narrow. Being nose heavy will not be a problem I hope.

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                              • kallend
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                                #1655
                                Originally posted by James
                                The Gripen TV unit is available now: https://www.motionrc.com/products/fr...or-upgrade-set
                                Ordered within minutes of the email from MRC. As I live in northern IL, delivery is usually next day.

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                                • Evan D
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                                  #1656
                                  Hmm I just realized even though I signed up to be notified for both the Gripen and MiG TVs I haven’t received a notice for either...

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                                  • TangoVector
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                                    #1657
                                    Originally posted by Evan D
                                    Why are you saying too narrow TV? What did you do?



                                    I'm installing the 90mm FMS 8S, so I need a larger diameter thrust-tube and I think the 80mm version TV-unit will be too restrictive, but there will be some sort of TV later on. A lot of carving going on right now and a redesign of the cheater inlet is in the printer (not really a redesign, just printing another inlet from thingieverse to have something to start with as a baseline).

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                                    • Mizer67
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                                      #1658
                                      I look forward to seeing the final result TangoVector.

                                      Probably not something I will attempt, but I applaud the effort and hope you can get a good performance boost from the 90mm.

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                                      • Marco Polo
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                                        • Aug 2012
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                                        #1659
                                        Originally posted by Evan D
                                        Hmm I just realized even though I signed up to be notified for both the Gripen and MiG TVs I haven’t received a notice for either...
                                        See this post on Motion's website:
                                        I signed up for Back in Stock Notify, but I didn’t get an email when the product came back in stock. Why did this happen? This is a common question and here’s why it happens. When a product is back in...

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                                        • Evan D
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                                          #1660
                                          Interesting, hard to believe I wasn’t early to sign up though. Thanks.

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