Official Freewing 90mm F-16 V2 EDF Jet Thread

[Aros]

F-16 V2 High Performance 90mm EDF Jet from Freewing - PNP - FJ30631P

Pre-Order / Reservation Details - Please read this information carefully before ordering:

• This is the pre-order for the Freewing 90mm F-16 V2 PNP. The first shipment of the F-16 V2 will arrive in the USA on 9/7/24. The ETA for EU is 9/10/24. Any changes to the ETA will be posted on this page.
• This is an EXTREMELY popular product, so we STRONGLY recommend pre-ordering if you wish to receive a unit from the first shipment.
• In order to hold your Freewing 90mm F-16 V2 PNP, your credit card or PayPal account will be billed at the time your pre-order is placed.
• Please DO NOT order spare parts with your pre-order unless you are willing to wait for them to ship with the plane. We do not ship spare parts separately before pre-order items.

Version Note: This is the High Performance 6S version which includes a 3668-1980Kv inrunner motor with 12-blade EDF and a thrust reversing 120A ESC.

In 2014, Freewing, in collaboration with Motion RC, introduced its first 90mm F-16 Fighting Falcon EDF jet. As a premier addition to their "super scale" foam EDF jet series, this model garnered significant acclaim and has remained a favorite in many EDF pilots' hangars for years. To commemorate the model's 10-year anniversary, Freewing and Motion RC proudly present the next generation of this customer favorite.

The next-generation F-16C 90mm EDF from Freewing showcases a range of performance and design upgrades that elevate realism, flight capability, and convenience. Featuring a striking 64th Aggressors Livery, this model honors the distinguished 64th Aggressor Squadron, part of the legendary Aggressor program initiated in 1972. This squadron played a crucial role in training pilots through dissimilar air combat tactics, emulating potential adversaries.

With quick-release wings, an easier fuselage assembly, and a slide rail system for armament, the updated F-16C 90mm prioritizes ease of use. Additionally, the scale appeal and functionality have reached new heights with fully functional, servo-driven air brakes, updated scale details, extra molded-in rivets, painted landing gear, and other intricate detail components. The Freewing F-16C 90mm is designed to impress.

The new power system, featuring a 3668-1980Kv inrunner motor and a 12-blade EDF, delivers exceptional speed and power for long vertical climbs and rapid show passes over the runway. It also includes reverse thrust for short landing rollouts.

Experience the thrill and precision of the Freewing F-16C 90mm EDF – a true tribute to its full-scale counterpart, bringing advanced aerodynamics and stunning detail to your collection.

Visit the Official Freewing 90mm F-16 V2 Discussion Thread on HobbySquawk.com for additional photos, videos, reviews, and customer Q&A.

64th Aggressor Squadron Livery Featuring an iconic 64th Aggressor Squadron livery, the Freewing F-16C showcases the legendary training unit.

Quick Release Wings Enjoy effortless assembly and disassembly with the innovative quick release wing system.

Scale, Servo-Driven Airbrakes Enhanced realism with fully functional, servo driven airbrakes that can be controlled from the transmitter.

Updated 3668-1980Kv Power System Enhanced power and speed with the updated 3668-1980Kv inrunner motor and thrust reversing with the included 120A ESC.

Spring Loaded Cheater Holes Equipped with spring loaded cheaters that actuate in flight for enhanced in flight performance while maintaining scale appeal on the ground.

Quick Attach Rail System for Armament Easily install and remove armament with the updated quick attach rail system.

Added Scale Details Extra molded-in rivets and detailed plastic components elevate the scale realism.

Larger Battery Compartment Spacious battery compartment to easily accommodate various battery sizes and configurations for 6 or 8S LiPo systems.

Features:

• NEW! 64th Aggressors Camo Livery: A striking, historically inspired camouflage design
• NEW! Power System: 3668-1980Kv Inrunner Motor with a 90mm 12-blade EDF
• NEW! 120A Brushless ESC with 7A UBEC and Thrust Reversing: Provides reliable and efficient power management as well as thrust reversing capability
• NEW! Screwless, Quick-Release Main Wings: For easy assembly and transport
• NEW! Scale, Servo-Driven Air Brakes: Enhances scale realism and performance
• NEW! Quick Attach Rail System: Simplifies fuel tank and armament attachment
• NEW! Additional Molded-In Scale Rivet and Panel Details: Adds to the model’s scale appeal and authenticity
• NEW! Increased Battery Compartment Size: Accommodates larger batteries
• NEW! Plastic Corner Protection: Around the battery compartment and fuselage chines for added durability
• NEW! Additional Plastic Scale Details Included: Enhances the model’s visual appeal
• NEW! Spring-Loaded Cheater Holes: Improves power, speed, and overall performance
• NEW! Stronger Landing Gear Mounts and Painted, CNC-Machined Landing Gear: Adds scale aesthetic appeal and adds durability
• NEW! Spring-Loaded Battery Latch: Secures the battery with ease
• NEW! Glueless Rear Fuselage Assembly: Simplifies the build process
• Officially Licensed by Lockheed Martin
• Sequenced gear doors provide added realism and reduced drag
• Bright LED navigation and landing lights for enhanced realism and dawn/dusk maneuvers
• Carbon fiber wing spars
• Ball linkages on all control surfaces
• Nylon hinges on all control surfaces

Includes:

• Freewing F-16 V2 High Performance 90mm EDF Jet - PNP
• 12-Blade EDF power system (installed)
• 3668-1980Kv brushless inrunner motor (installed)
• 120A ESC with reverse thrusting and EC5 connector (installed)
• Electronic retractable landing gear (installed)
• Servos, LED Lights (installed)

Requires:

• 6 Channel radio - select a minimum 6 channel radio (7 channel for thrust reversing) from our Radio Collection
• 6 Channel receiver - select a minimum 6 channel receiver from our Receiver Collection
• 6 Cell 22.2V 5000 mAh LiPo battery with EC5 connector - we recommend the Admiral 6 Cell 5000 mAh LiPo with EC5 connector
• 6 Cell compatible battery charger - select a minimum 6 cell (6S) charger from our Charger Collection

Product Specifications:

AGE LEVEL :18 and up
SKILL LEVEL :Advanced
BUILD TIME :1 hour

Model Scale	1/10 Scale
Wingspan	955mm / 37.6in
Length	1457mm /57.4in
Empty Weight	Empty Weight 3.17kg (7.0lbs) without battery and armament
CG (Center of Gravity)	110mm (4.3") from the leading edge of the wing at the root
Power System	3668-1980Kv Inrunner Motor
Electronic Speed Control	120A Brushless with 7A UBEC, thrust reversing, EC5 Connector
Propeller / EDF	90mm 12-Blade EDF
Servos	9g hybrid digital standard with 300mm lead : nose gear steering - MD31093-300 9g hybrid digital standard with 400mm lead : nose gear door - MD31093-400 17g metal gear digital standard with 100mm lead : left rudder, right rudder - MD31172-100 23g metal gear digital reverse 100mm lead : right elevator - MD31231R-100 23g metal gear digital standard 100mm lead : left elevator - MD31231-100 17g metal gear digital standard with 200mm lead : left flap, right flap - MD31172-200 17g metal gear digital standard with 300mm lead : left aileron, right aileron - MD31172-300
Landing Gear	Electronic retractable main gear and steerable nose gear with all metal shock absorbing struts
Required Battery	6S 22.2V 5000mAh LiPo with EC5 connector (required)
Required Radio	6 Channel (required)
Ailerons	Yes
Elevator	Yes
Rudder	Yes
Flaps	No
Lights	Yes
Hinge Type	Nylon Reinforced
Material	EPO Foam
Skill Level	Intermediate/Advanced/Expert
Build Time	1 Hour
Recommended Environment	Outdoor, 150+ foot paved runway or short manicured grass

[Aros]

Get her while she's hot boys and girls!

6S PNP

https://www.motionrc.com/products/freewing-f-16-v2-high-performance-90mm-edf-jet-pnp-fj30631p

8S PNP

https://www.motionrc.com/products/freewing-f-16-v2-ultra-performance-8s-90mm-edf-jet-pnp-fj30632p

ARF PLUS

https://www.motionrc.com/products/freewing-f-16-v2-90mm-edf-jet-arp-fj30631ap

[Reptielenfreak]

Amazing looking jet, love the colors, led's and the airbrake.

I wonder how effective the airbrakes are in compare to flaps?
also how effective are the gear struts i believe they are called for the gear itself or is it more to look scale?
anyway i would love to own one

[kallend]

Yet another F-16.

Pass!

[Porkster]

Awesome!! Got mine ordered

[Porkster]

Yet another F-16.

Pass!

happy to have it along side the other 8 F-16s I own
from UMX to turbine

[Evan D]

Flaperons work great on F-16’s as do tailerons.

Amazing looking jet, love the colors, led's and the airbrake.

I wonder how effective the airbrakes are in compare to flaps?
also how effective are the gear struts i believe they are called for the gear itself or is it more to look scale?
anyway i would love to own one

[bonehead]

Does anyone seen data re difference in performance between 6S and 8S versions? I am wondering if Freewing or Motion has actually measured speed differences between the two

[Aros]

Good question, I am sure someone in the forum can answer. Plenty of stat junkies out there. This is actually going to be my first 8S 90mm EDF Jet. I've always flown 6S. It will be fascinating to see what difference I can tell when the time comes.

[Evan D]

About 20mph depending on the airframe.

[Reptielenfreak]

So im wondering how bump proof the gear is. Motionrc mentioned that on short grass runway it will be fine, but later om he was telling that the land gear bars or struts are there to make it one of the best gears.. so how strong is it against bumpy grass fields

[silver182]

The gear itself even on version one was strong. The problem was the plastic mounting box for the gear. It was weak if they strengthen that and they’ve strengthened the gear both main and nose. No, have they done that I don’t know.

[Aros]

Yes the gear mounting sections have been strengthened over V1.

[Aros]

For those of you wondering, Wes, our resident test pilot, said that the V1 at full throttle could not keep pace with the V2 at half throttle. That tells me all I need to know about concern for wing load. While this model may be a little heavier than V1, it also carries a new gen powerplant that more than makes up for the wing load factor.

I grabbed the 8S and plan on going nuts with it. LOL.

[Evan D]

Thrust or top speed has nothing to do with wing loading.

[Aros]

Nothing? You mean to tell me that a much higher weight to thrust ratio has nothing to do with wing load? Say 1:1 for instance? I’ve flown high wing loaded jets with awful power systems and the results were predictable. I’ve also flown high wing loaded jets with a terrific powerful setup and it flew like it was light.

You may be technically correct in your comment but please don’t tell me power/thrust doesn’t play into the equation. All due respect of course.

[kallend]

Nothing? You mean to tell me that a much higher weight to thrust ratio has nothing to do with wing load? Say 1:1 for instance? I’ve flown high wing loaded jets with awful power systems and the results were predictable. I’ve also flown high wing loaded jets with a terrific powerful setup and it flew like it was light.

You may be technically correct in your comment but please don’t tell me power/thrust doesn’t play into the equation. All due respect of course.

That is NOT what he told you.

His comment is correct (all other things being equal).

[kallend]

For those of you wondering, Wes, our resident test pilot, said that the V1 at full throttle could not keep pace with the V2 at half throttle. That tells me all I need to know about concern for wing load..

You can't draw any conclusion about wing loading from that information (assuming it's even correct).

What it tells me is that the stock V1 power unit is not as good as the V2's.

[Evan D]

If you have two planes with the same thrust and wing (both don't have flaps for example) and one has a significantly heavier wing loading what is the effect you will see on how it flies? Mostly landing speed. Maybe a bit in how it turns at speed and it may have a slightly lower top speed due to drag.

Add more power to the one with heavier loading. Is the landing speed now better? No. Is the turning speed better, well it may be faster but it will have the same high speed stall. But yes, top speed will get better but you still do have a draggier airframe so if you had put that higher power fan in the lighter loaded airframe you'd be even faster.


What were the big issues with V1? Heavy wing loading and not enough room for good batteries or 8S (batteries then were a bit bigger and heavier than what I fly now). The V1 first had a low power out runner. Subbing in a newer 6S in runner has helped those that still have a V1 but back then my choice was going to 8S and JetFan EDFs. The V1 didn't have room for decent 8S and balance was very difficult if you could find batteries. I have to say at this point almost every FW 90mm 8S still is difficult to get balance on, proper balance, not where it says in the book .

The V2 has a smaller wing span and is heavier by the published numbers. That means the V2 will probably land faster than the V1 and probably have a higher stall speed.

More power may help overcome some issues caused by higher loading but I expect that higher power will really cause more crashes because more power really has a tendency to get you in trouble when you are stalling. Having airbrakes and reverse thrust will be a bigger plus landing than overall thrust for this plane.

All my opinion of course. And yes, I ordered one first thing yesterday.

[Evan D]

Absolutely. Plus "Wes said"... But did he really fly them together or was it a generalized statement "I blew his doors off!", I did not in fact blow his doors off but I was faster...

Add to this generalized statement that he's not saying what version of V1 or of V2 or any other specifics. Even if you actually believe the half throttle statement.


Or I can take your saying "Wes said" as fact and be disappointed and want my money back when my V2 isn't as fast at half throttle as the V1 on 8S at my field...

You can't draw any conclusion about wing loading from that information (assuming it's even correct).

What it tells me is that the stock V1 power unit is not as good as the V2's.