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  • Elbee
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    • Feb 2018
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    #221
    Originally posted by chabd
    During gulf war 1, the RAF aircaft Tornados, Buccaneers etc, operating out of Saudi were all painted a similar colour called.............. Desert Pink.
    I did not know that: RAF Desert Pink.

    Those would be an interesting builds

    Great info, thank you.

    Best, LB


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    • Elbee
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      #222
      Bomber Bunch,

      Kwik Update.

      I never think a little thing could take longer than a big thing, but it is the way of things in modelling.

      Needed to rework the Top Turret mount to the fuselage and figured it was just a matter of printing a circle.

      But NO, I had enlarge the hole, then correct some foam surgery and finally design a new base.

      Onto Nacelle work and mounting the Cowls.

      WooHoo.:partying_face:

      More when there is more.

      Best, LB

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      • Elbee
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        #223
        Hey Y'all,

        Another busy Fall Chores week, but I did manage to try my hand at designing the rear fuselage plexi.

        Still working on a compromise for the exact shape, but getting there.

        Clear resin print at 0.02 layer height for this first attempt.

        Doesn't suck, but ain't great.

        I know some will just say vacuum-form it and that's a valid point, though I'd like to see if printing in clear is even worth the efforts.

        In the end might save some time and allow for more intricate shapes, don't know yet.

        More with there is more.

        Best, LB

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        • f4u ausie
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          #224
          Thought U were canoing. Again lol.
          I'm a bum as regards to proper modelling... So just thinking aloud,,, 🧐. Weather printed or vacuum formed,, would a nice coat of clear,, after a fine wet rub ,,improve the plastic clarity.. if U remember,, I cleared a cola cola bottle a year or so ago,, just 4 the excersise.. did make a difference do luv that desert pink,,

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          • Elbee
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            #225
            f4u ausie

            Great tip, Craig.

            I had thought to do something like that depending on the end result.

            And the OEM vacuum-formed parts could definitely use some help, as well.

            I will try a thinner wall thickness, as well.

            This one is 1.0 mm, so I'll try another at 0.6 mm and see if it is sturdy enough and any clearer after post processing.

            We had planned to kayak one more time before the weather turns too chilly, so we'll see.

            The experience has been big fun and it's good to have it as a family outing, of sorts.

            Best, LB
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            • Elbee
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              #226
              f4u ausie

              Well, you were correct again, Craig.

              I reprinted the rear fuselage Plexiglas part a little larger and thinner.

              The part is still a compromise in shape due to my limitations as a designer.

              I did cure the part longer and even set it outside in the sun for several hours.

              After a thorough wash and dry, I cured it again with the UV and began a wet sand with 600 grit through 1200 grit.

              I sprayed clear lacquer inside and out, then wet sanded with 1000 to 2500 then sprayed 2 more coats allowing it to dry 20-30 minutes between coats.

              It is as clear as I am willing go at this point.

              The part is pixalated somewhat, which is just the nature of compound curves in 3DP in my experience.

              Might need to design curved parts in something other than TinkerCAD, don't know for certain.

              In my favor, the learning curve was shorter than expected and will definitely design and print more clear parts.

              All in all, I am happy with the result and thank you again for the suggestion of 'clear coating' the surfaces.

              Best, LB


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              • f4u ausie
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                #227
                Absolutely looks better in pics Steve... Their is a reason they say ( no I in team):partying_face: Great job as always. .
                B safe

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                • Elbee
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                  #228
                  Hey All,

                  I have noticed some chafing on one of my elevator servo leads and a cut on the other servo lead.

                  I pulled my elevator servos to paint the empennage and I might have done that damage myself, but I am unsure.

                  I ran my servos through 100+ cycles with no issues, it was reinstalling those that I found the issue.

                  I have repaired both with heat shrink and some E-6000 at the point where the servo exits the servo body.

                  Point is, if you have any issues with your elevator servos, I'd start with checking that part of the wiring.

                  Shades of the Freewing F-18 elevator servo issue, but I could be an alarmist,

                  Best, LB
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                  • Elbee
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                    #229
                    B-25 Ext Servo Spacer.zip

                    Mitchell Maniacs,

                    Camouflaging my elevator servos with a small 3DP design.

                    I'll fill the gaps, sand, prime and then paint the empennage.

                    Posting the STL here, if anyone else is interested.

                    Best, LB

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                    • Elbee
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                      #230
                      Hey Y'all.

                      Kwik-Pic of the servo cover/hole=filler/spacer thingee.

                      I like that this small addition eliminates the shadows created by the servo and servo mount.

                      This is also much easier than using filler, though that will work just fine, too.

                      Best, LB

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                      • RRHandy
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                        #231
                        All I get is this statement when clicking on link.


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                        • Elbee
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                          Here's all I know to do for now:
                          Don't move or delete your posts.
                          Reporting this type of error is okay.
                          The Webmeister is suppose to repair as much as can be repaired today.
                          We're all waiting to see what happens next.
                          The good news is the spammers seem to have moved on or are waiting for another day.
                          Time will tell.
                          Major PITA.
                          Best, Steve
                      • davegee
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                        #232
                        Originally posted by Elbee
                        Hey Y'all.

                        Kwik-Pic of the servo cover/hole=filler/spacer thingee.

                        I like that this small addition eliminates the shadows created by the servo and servo mount.

                        This is also much easier than using filler, though that will work just fine, too.

                        Best, LB

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                        That's a good touch for reducing the profile of the servos.

                        Cheers

                        Davegee

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                        • RRHandy
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                          #233
                          Just like the one that went missing.
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                          • RRHandy
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                            #234
                            My posts are getting flagged as spam.
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                            • Elbee
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                              Everyone's post are currently set up for either "Approval" or "Disapproval".

                              I have to approve every post for now.

                              Not a responsibility or vetting, all posts are this way.

                              Not certain why, but again repairs are suppose to happen today.
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                            #235
                            Gents, we are working on the problem. Your continued patience is appreciated.
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                            • f4u ausie
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                              #236
                              Servo looks clean as a whistle :hugging: ... Especially under current situation. Your a warrior Steve.. pun intended... I'm sure aros and others r going above and beyond also.... Thanx to whoever they r

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                              • Elbee
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                                #237
                                Bomber Brood,

                                I am calling this part complete with the exception of a little filler and touch up paint.

                                Truth be told, it was/is a real compromise to the aft end of a "C" fuselage.

                                Woulda, shoulda, coulda, never gets a project completed and the profile is good, so we move forward,

                                Next is locating, marking, some foam surgery, and installing all the windows in the fuselage, 6 more if memory serves.

                                Update then.

                                Best, LB

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                                • borntoolate
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                                  #238
                                  Originally posted by Elbee
                                  Bomber Brood,

                                  I am calling this part complete with the exception of a little filler and touch up paint.

                                  Truth be told, it was/is a real compromise to the aft end of a "C" fuselage.

                                  Woulda, shoulda, coulda, never gets a project completed and the profile is good, so we move forward,

                                  Next is locating, marking, some foam surgery, and installing all the windows in the fuselage, 6 more if memory serves.

                                  Update then.

                                  Best, LB

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                                  I like what you have done!!!!! Great work.

                                  Bob

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                                  • Elbee
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                                    #239
                                    borntoolate

                                    Bob,

                                    Thank you.

                                    I know you see what I compromised.

                                    The way to do it correctly is build a plug and Vacuum-Form the clear part.

                                    I have a picture of a woman checking the part for defects at an assembly plant and the part is squarish to match the bulkhead and then transitions into the bubble.

                                    I like the profile shape I have and for now that will have to do.

                                    Hope all is well with you and yours, Brother.

                                    Best, Steve

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                                    • Elbee
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                                      #240
                                      MItchell Maniacs,

                                      I did get holes cut for the RH side and window and door frames dry fit.

                                      Next step is the LH side, all clear parts cut, and everything glued in place.

                                      Touch up filler and prime, finish ANA 616 paint color on fuselage

                                      It's fun when things go quickly.

                                      Best, LB

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