Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

[Clugh]

and 1o years ago i was saying the same things

There is nothing new. They are still in my room trying to figure it out. Look at the residual inductance of the PM for real answers about losing synchronization at heavy loads. They think they know everything and are extremely hard head! In 10 years you don't learn anything??? WOW!

[Clugh]

Slot car motors have 3 teeth so does Lucas want a Hubertus post doc award for rewinding one 30 years ago??

Just hating that can not congratulate better ideas coming out of America . But you are here in our forums to be educated on every single one from "pocboy"


YT
Hubert

[Clugh]

Posted 10-12-2015

And btw I was shown the 20 pole rotor 10 years ago. The HALF PITCHED 🙄 distributed wind promised for it on 12 slots still hasn't been wound. So yes this is a real joke out of Bayern Germany.

10 years I've waited for it cap!! At what point can I dismiss it??

Count it..thats 10 years bro...
Everything I have shown you I can implement today so how is it there are no better solutions 15 years later Ralph?.

[Clugh]

This motor can be improved by better bearings and slot wedges. We can even shield the steel bearing from noise and quiet the slots and improve the cos/phi relationship on the machine lowering load amperages.

I guess it isn't possible for the leaders in Dresden or Bayern!!! What motor expert doesn't know what a slot wedge does or what Magnovol is?

What motor expert doesn't understand how critical a bearing is in excellent performance?

Okon hasn't adopted a single new piece of technology into his motors. Better bearings, lighter composite parts or, better building material like thermally conductive epoxies.

He said it himself; nothing has changed in 15 years.

What motor experts do not understand the importance of idle current in motor efficiency???



TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

A single layer in 7 turns of 13 AWG. = 33% more copper in the slot of an Align MX700

Motor Constants:
Rm .005 ohms
Kv 824
Io 3.27 amps @22.5 volts including radial fan load.
Weight 448.8 grams


Leaving constants is very easy to do for anyone that wants to be open to the pilots for their money in 2025!

In the boat simulation this is what it expects....

33,940 rpm
153 amps
Pin 6.394 kilowatts
Pout 6.125 kilowatts
Run time 3.85 minutes
Est speed 90.12 mph or 145.03408 km/h
Eff. 95.80 %

[Clugh]

What is the deal Dr Okon? The thread is reopened . You dont have anything remote to post about you winds performance beside the cots kontronic machine?
So you want to forget this past???


And what about the accuracy of your friends published calculator????

[Clugh]

Gerd is reading here Ralph...Croco world has been reopened but you are here looking versus there leaving EVO data.

its hilarious Ralph! For the cost of a whole new cut u hadn't gained 1 point in efficiency.

Do you like the keys i carry?

[Clugh]

What hurt me most Is Thomas doesn't realize all he has to do is put his motor in Holles calculator and the comparison is just as fair. I really do not know what you call the person if it is not ignorant. What ever skewed results he thinks the calculator gives, that "skew" is universal across the board, so yes I have a problem understanding the nonsense volleyed back n forth on the subject matter of calculator accuracy on the German social media. To simply compare the motors head to head THAT is almost irrelevant. Dr Okon...

Also why would you run a fixed timing? To prove something to me? LOL if you have auto timing use it! . If you have a motor heat monitor function in telemetry of course you use it and 100C stabilized is full continuous power you cant very well approach 180 with the rotor because it will lose adequate magnetic field for zero cross timing b4 full curie and lose synchronization.


Hubert

[Clugh]

You want the hobbyist to forget about this past but what does the future hold with data less motors in 2025? Is he is ashamed of his efficiency so he doesn't want to post any specifics now.? He doesn't want someone else (Hubert) to calculate the truth so he is very closed lip now...

The Evo didn't even manage +1% Eta. so Ralph hides his constants which every other manufacture post. He always uses what the industry winds as his metrics so why now does he go rogue from the rest of the industry when its time to report the wundermotor data???

Ralph,
Did you miss the calculations that show the 4125 make more power and torque than Okons 42 series. Thats a fact based on Thomas test where you all interpreted the data incorrectly and never actually calculated the torques.... You nor Luc

If you had he would not have puhed the eject button and you wouldn't have thought you won some proxy war . An idea dreamed up by Kunzke on the German social media to explain why winding a hybrid takes 5 years...🤔

Do anyone in the world truly believe after 15 years there's no room for improvement in a said technology like motor winding?. You really think Intelligent hobbyist believe that?

Asking for motor constants and empirical data is too much to ask from the great empiricist? Is that idea really so yesteryear?

[Clugh]

[Clugh]

Will he say your calculator is bogus as well? The speed line is not above the efficiency line. Breaking Helmuts rule... Holle's. does not. Ralph you rewound the scorpion . Does it show improvement over the COTS pletti??? is all you have to ask. If it was made "right" like you say Ralph then these should be about 70% That would put the eta in the "gusset" . That's what you want for accuracy correct?

DriveCalc - Elektromodellflug Infos

[Clugh]

Gerd,
Wie kann er das veröffentlichen? Aus der Vergangenheit? 71 % reichten nicht aus, warum sollten sie also keinen Verbesserungsbericht von Ralph erhalten? Erwarten Sie, dass die Verbraucher sein Angebot als Antwort akzeptieren? Wenn seine Motoren so hervorragend sind, sollte es kein Problem sein, die Motorkonstanten und alle anderen relevanten Daten, die eine Verbesserung zeigen, aufzuzeichnen. Wenn es nicht darum geht, was soll dann sein EVO, der wie eine XNOVA-Kopie aussieht? Wofür zeigt er ihn, wenn er nicht besser ist als die Standard-50er-Serie, was er aber nicht ist!


Es macht keinen Sinn, keine Daten zu veröffentlichen.

How can he publish this data less EVO motor? From his past 71% isn't enough, so why wouldn't they get an improvement report from Ralph?for a 1000 euro? Do you expect consumers to accept his offer as an answer? If his engines are so excellent, it shouldn't be a problem to record the engine constants and all other relevant data that shows improvement. If that's not the point, then what's the point of his EVO, which looks like an XNOVA copy? What's the point of showing it off if it's not better than the standard 50 series, which it isn't

It makes no sense not to include data or lock it at Ralphs request so he doesn't have to answer the clear questions.

[Clugh]

The powercroco 12 slot 10 pole style winding is represented by the red dotted line...

[Clugh]

Empirical VS Theoretic Truth.

[Clugh]

Understand that based on their location that this is nothing special. Thats why this motor does not come with data!

[Clugh]

Good Morning America,
This is how you implement a flux barrier in the yolk region of the stator. the Powercroco EVO is simply copying the xnovas cooling channelsl but this would bring that cooling plus a magnetic circuit improvement that develops more torque and higher efficiency than a boring wye

This information is straight out of Munich Germany from the real experts at the Universities...

Advanced optimization methods for fractional slot concentrated windings

• April 2019
• Electrical Engineering 101(1):1-18

• DOI:
• 10.1007/s00202-019-00760-6

• Gurakuq Dajaku
• Sachar Spas
• Dieter Gerling

[Clugh]

Its been 5 months since the 12 Slot 20 pole and 12 slot 14 pole Halbach was suggested and there is still nothing running or even wound. No data of complete engine. It is dead silent in Bayern. Dresden is also locked out from his own discussion. .

The hybrids and dual three phase windings are here. and take the same time to wind as a traditional machine. If time is a factor they can forget about flying data-less Wunder motors....

We make more torque and run cooler utilizing better materials and modern, winding technology. In technology if you havent found something new in 10 years you are out of date. Imagine a home PC or a Laptop from 10 years ago.



Its old Bruder....

[Clugh]

Hi,
I managed to get a few P600's wound for Muncie. I'm going to send AJ one 650 for his VLV contra drive and Brenner 3 spares. I have at least 8 pilots already. With at least 2 competing in the nationals. Every Brenner drive will fly me.

Ill also wind 2 more comp black 650's for two more TDRS this week.



TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

Thats my report out in the open!

You will find no where I used and idle trick. If the man cannot understand that lowering the idle current while maintaining the same dc resistance improves his efficiency you give it the definition you like but the factual definition is he is ignorant to the fact. What word do I use? .Clueless? uninformed? He doesn't want to be labeled any thing but guru but he lacks real understanding about the electronics to receive that moniker from me. He really doesn't hold a candle to me so people can be mad about that.

What's sad is I took the time to take the simulation tool to show him how to USE IT simply to confirm what lowering idle current for his machine at the same dcr and someone is in the background crying because i get on this liar talking about I run idle tricks over in Germany?? The simulation tool is absolutely fine and accurate for making that type of comparison. Tellin you something else is indeed ignorant because he ignores that fact! I use plain sometimes broken English.😉

Come talk to me because apparently truth and the forums members money means nothing to you.

When he tells you that UHU is thermally conductive and he has no heat issues when his rotor magnets are permanently losing power. Id like you to come in here and comment about the technical aspect of an electrical motor your way.

I'd like to see how you redirect a person that's purposefully untruthful with the boys day for day on a hobby forum

and every other brand needs a repair but his according to his native tongue NO i don't appreciate him lying to you. And blocking you from information granted me by TOP IEEE members to show you on a hobby forum. Top minds like Sariful Islam at ABB or Dieter Gerling in Munich Germany, no he wont block it from the boys with his ignorance.

No he wont block that with his lies and bs and Ill stake my forum status on it because its worth it and all that happens is he and his forum cronies follow me to the next place to keep stealing my ideas and running this wolf cry victim bs.

Think about it....I cant call him uniformed if he is here to watch and I just showed him through simulation tools and mathematics it works...and he still says I use idle tricks on The German forum...



Man he will get over it soon enough. He should be tough enough a German Army surgeon .

Be strong... Ralph...


I have things to do
Hubert

[Clugh]