Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

[Clugh]

Du kannst dir seinen Unsinn anhören, wenn du willst.....

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pierre_mousel, RdS

Thanks,
Hubert

[Clugh]

An meine Kollegen in Deutschland: Dr. Okon ist witzig. Erstens verwendet ein YGE keine Blockkommutierung außer unter Volllast. Wo sind also seine Leerlaufstromberichte und seine Motorkonstanten? Dr. Okon belügt euch fast täglich, und es ist wirklich schade, wenn ihr in Deutschland seine Widersprüche und seinen Unsinn nicht durchschaut. Er ist ein echter Kerl und scheint sich überhaupt nicht darum zu kümmern, ehrlich zu euch zu sein. Das ist wirklich schade für euer Forum. Das Mindeste, was er tun könnte, wäre, euch bessere Kugellager für einen 1000-Euro-Motor anzubieten. Es ist wirklich eine widerliche Idee, euer Vertrauen und eure Ehrlichkeit in seine vermeintliche Expertise auszunutzen. Wenn ich im Forum wäre, würde ich ihn fragen, wo seine Daten sind. Ich bin sicher, ihr macht das alle jedes Mal, wenn CL etwas postet. Deshalb heißt es ja Crocoworld. Ihr hinterfragt ihn nicht annähernd mit dem gleichen Eifer..Andererseits ist es wahrscheinlich besser, sich nicht auf seinen Unsinn einzulassen, wenn Sie ihn wirklich als das erkennen, was er ist.


Danke
Hubert

[Clugh]

Und was ist deine Spezialanwendung? Feuer?




Und deshalb müssen Verlustströme und Betriebstemperaturen nicht gesenkt werden?

Ja klar, Kumpel. Du hältst die deutschen Bastler bestimmt für Idioten.

In deinem Forum gibt es drei Threads dazu. Außer dem, den ich gepostet habe, wurden in keinem einzigen Thread auch nur die geringsten Daten angeboten.

[Clugh]

Hier ist das Foto. Wo ist das Gewirr, das er in meiner Maschine hat? Es ist nicht nur ein Hybrid, sondern ein Parallelhybrid, isoliert mit Bornitrid-basiertem Epoxidharz über reinem Silberlot. Es hat einen geringeren Widerstand als der entsprechende Massivdraht.

Here's some numbers from a running test!

The P650 5Y + 9D parallel hybrid in 22awg
Kv 1072
Rm 28.3 milliohms
Io .7 amps @ 16.5 volts

Für euch Freunde, die ihr keine Idioten seid, ist es ganz einfach. Sie müssen nur einen Lügner dazu bringen, einen 1072-kV-P650 zu wickeln. Sie wollen ihn sowieso für 28,3 Milliohm und melden den Leerlaufstrom. Sie würden auch deine vorsätzliche Ignoranz erkennen, da man dir ja schon millionenfach gesagt hat, du sollst die Glockentemperatur mit einer Last testen. Vielleicht erinnern sie sich auch an deine Aussage, dass du einen Freund hast, falls du Daten brauchst. Warum hast du deine Lügen dann nicht an seine Werkbank geschnallt? Du bist nicht mal ein guter Lügner, mein Freund.

und ich habe dir bereits gesagt, dass Sebastian und die Jungs nichts getan haben. Du bist langsam, Bruder.





Hubert

[Clugh]

Nein, sie hören dir einfach nicht mehr zu. Sie sehen den Unterschied im Kupferverlust zwischen den beiden Maschinen direkt in Tests, die bereits von den besten Experten der Welt durchgeführt wurden. Bei korrekter Wicklung liegt er weit unter 1 %.

Du hast Daten zum Vergleichen, also bist du einfach nur unwissend. Wenn du es vermeidest und den von Experten geprüften Daten von Ingenieuren nicht trauen kannst …

Bist du sicher, dass du ein Arzt bist? Weil dir Logik und Wahrheit fehlen …

Schade, dass dein Scheiß so verworren ausgegangen ist.

Hier beträgt die veröffentlichte Differenz 1/4 Prozent.



Hubert

[Clugh]

[Clugh]

As everyone can see the "suspect" American engineering for such a propeller drive unit is actually from Estonia which is in Northern Europe.

TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

You just don't understand state of the art SENSORLESS motor control. See if your YGE or basic hobby inverter can do it.

Get some rest!
Hubert

[Clugh]

I hate for people that get it the redundancy needed to reach some of us.

[Clugh]

Good morning America!


Hi Docta ,

250 feet of 22 awg 99% pure Ag magnet wire from America is 3,250.00. USD!!! Can you afford it and the tariffs on top on motors where 5 dolla NMB's stretch the pilots bank.?

A true bullet proof hi end 500 - 1000 ampere electric motor for a speed plane that wont break is going to cost a pilot some real cheddar

For me to set it up with a large Talega based bridge is probably going to run you over 4,000 dollars and I guarantee you that antiquated conventionally wound scorpion with no potting and 5 dollar ball bearings with a Turnigy brained yge 320 at a16 kilohertz max brake will not come anywhere close.

A true speedmaster can afford it! But it isnt like a conventionally wound P1000 hasn't already destroyed it.


Hubert

[Clugh]

Come on America get real...

1..I've wound the motor for him and posted photos
2.I've run the motor for him and posted videos
3.I've recorded the constants and plotted the efficiency
4 I've showed him and you all purchased wiring diagrams from the African Drs. I paid for directly from the IEEE with straight cash!!!!!

Ask yourself 1 question what has the Dr really given you tangible on the subject matter in this post:?

"The last entries I could find on this topic are from March 2023.


I could not confirm many of the theses put forward at that time, at least in my experiments with a P800 and the standard 14P rotor as well as the 10P bell, which was still in the grab box but was not transferred to series production at that time.

After all, the motor runs with such a winding - and that too (from a purely sensory point of view) very clean and quiet.

In my opinion, the advantages discussed at that time are probably - as suspected - more "academic" and not practical.
So just like with the 7-8----8-7 Gerling winding.

I had chosen 7D +(7x1.73 =4)Y with adapted wire gauges.

Would like to exchange data via PN if the worst comes to the worst."

~Dr Ralph okon~

The "Dr" still needs more ????


yet he doesn't want to exchange that data privately or openly with the American he got it from..... and then proceeds to tell them in Germany the American engineering is suspect here....

that is very logical isnt it.????? Considering alot of the Tech ive shared comes directly from Germany.

Simply a bunch or epithetic, fallacious, mumbo jumbo out the posters mouth.

Ive even given them the entire BOOK from Dr Gerlings motor mathematics over 6 years ago.

The "wurst" is here sharing with him and he has executed the winding from the diagrams I showed him.



If I left you all today what would he share with you about electric motors or inverters ??????????????????????

Now I have things to do.

Layta
Hubert

[Clugh]

I also dont want the boys or your friends in Germany to think I'm talking to myself like you've also suggested throughout the years. I want people to see the reality.. When I talk YOU listen. Even this is a lie because you are not 1Boho that's me actually. You are Dr Okon aka Borat aka Powercroco so why you trying to fool people on our forums is beyond me.

You suck up every drop of information offered here in America.



TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

Dr Gerling is onto using closed circuits coils embedded in the slot wedge. Its his version of the EMI shielding.... BS this German Phds ideas don't work. Yall better check the long list of working patents. Dr Gerling and Gurakuq are highly respected EE's in this field. He is one of Germanys best.

You there on the GSM have absolutely nothing to hold up in their face and should be proud. This is actually German engineering I'm offering you.... its absolutely ingenious so please


The OG pyro is in the attachments. The unfinished wye coils are 7 turns and they can be from 15 to 13 AWG! and then have as much copper in the slot as your dual layer dinosaur.

Do you understand Moore's law as it applies to electronics technology Dr Okon? Then you may begin to understand that the hybrid winding is nearly 10 years old now...

You just at it places you nowhere near the edge of modern day e traction tech. They have ideas and amendments in 2025 that TRUMP these...

You need to catch up pimp. 6 More years and this tech will be Obsolete.....


4 real
Hubert

[Clugh]

Hi Ralph, I see you're searching here, and your hybrid thread hasn't received a single response. You told them it didn't work. They also know where you got the idea from. Do you think they'll respect it, after everything you've said about me and our "suspicious" American engineering?

[Clugh]

But now you want to sit on the German social media as if any of this is new to you. Do you see the date from these post??? And 6 years later I still got you locked in? Attempting what I do...?



PN that!

2019!!!

Later
Hubert

[Clugh]

[Clugh]

[Clugh]

6 years ago

[Clugh]

You still have problems being honest for the forums. You know it runs very well quiet that's why you haven't posted the recorded constants.
You took them if you ran the machine....

One doesn't have to be a genius to figure that out.

Wir sind weder leichtgläubig noch dumm.

Stop bs-ing the forums and get on with it. You know I know you team xerox....

Now dont get mad and quit just because I said that. Crocs supposed to have tough skin. Especially one that will deliver epithet in his signature.

Where are the constants Dr Okon? That a secret all of a sudden? That tells me all I need to know about the results....compared to your antiquated dl wye winding.

EE's know embedded load reactors and zig zag transformers are far from non proven academic theory.

Yes you are funny. Even though you got it off our American forums from me and alot of American pilots money too but you dont wanna share your limited results with them. But you here for ours everyday.... with the facsimile machine on overdrive...

That's no cap!

The people you are asking for help all owe their continued exposure to the subject matter to me.


Danke,
Hubert

[Clugh]

WTH is that supposed to mean ya'll... more "academic" and not practical??? Its more practical and simpler than a single thing they proposed in 12 years . Thats why industry uses it currently and not a thing they do there with the scorpions like unsecured coils or 5 dolla steel ball bearings in high end electric motors.

Dr Okon could start with an "aluminum oxide" thermally conductive "smear" on his wires...🙄

I hope U see no one on the German forum knows a thing about it from experience Ralph! Not one reply.

Why would they need to talk to you privately about it Dr Okon? After bringing it to the open forum for a 2nd time with zero data presented?
I can tell you Christian nor Sebastian have done anything. Sebastain never wound it buddy. I hate to destroy your dreams.... Or dispel the bs lie about a damn proxy war... That was always a whack weak az excuse cap.