Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

[Clugh]

I'm quite sure for direct drive coaxial being able to grind ID's and OD's on custom shafts will pay dividends so I'm looking at the right tool post grinder for the job.

Thank you for your time and patience
Hubert

[Clugh]

Themac | Tool Post Grinders | Lathe Grinders (themacgrinders.com)


I see the jokes in Germany have ended. Now you on lock on American social media trying to learn something about machining expert!
I'll show you the work this grinder made in the USA can do on your raggedy dirty lathe.....

Thanks for your time and patience.
Hubert

[Clugh]

I spent alot of time studying with James Allen in his mechanical masters class. You think you know something but I don't think you do.
here are a few photos of the precision tapered collets made for his 7.2hp 32,000 .90 all billet nitro motor od grinded with the Themac he told me to purchase and so I will. I miss my friend This machine can perform any shaft magic with precision. James was brothers with Henry Nelson. If you know anything about fast airplane then you should know who that is. James was also best friends with Ed Kalfus. You can be from any country or nationality you want these men are from nobody's in mechanical engineering and 2 stroke engine building. Jim rubbed shoulders with Jan Thiel. Look him up! if you really think you are that sharp.

Ralph!!!

[Clugh]

JA was a bad man. One of the worlds finest toolmakers you'll ever know.

[Clugh]

Boho1
Today, 03:04 AM

Hallo Ralph, Ich sehe um 3:46 Uhr EST in Amerika zu. Lass den schwarzen Troll eine Minute lang mit dir über dein Kapton reden. Du weißt, dass Endfest überhaupt nicht gut daran haftet. Das weißt du doch, oder? Weißt du, dass Kapton ein spezielles Epoxidharz benötigt, wenn die Oberfläche nicht vorbereitet wurde? Du weißt, dass deine nicht vorbereitet wurde. Was ist also los? Der schwarze Troll versteht nicht, warum du das falsche Material verwendest, wenn du mich nicht füttern willst. Ich bin voll von diesen Posts und Fotos. Denn du hast keine einzige Wicklung mit Verguss gezeigt, seit ich deine Materialexpertise angesprochen habe. Was ist los? Du wirst den Draht nicht mehr reparieren, 0,15 Watt pro Meter Kelvin-Material verwenden oder uns kopieren. Welches von den dreien? Irgendwann musst du dich entscheiden. Was werden deine arischen Freunde, denen deine Signatur gefällt, denken, wenn du jetzt den schwarzen Troll kopieren musst?

Da du sagst, ich muss noch mehr lernen, dann mach weiter und vergieße die Wicklungen mit Endstücken. Alle Blasen, die ich auf dem Pyro für Schweden darin sehe, sind nichts anderes als heiße Stellen im exklusiven Isolator auf Kapton, an dem es nicht haften kann. Die Drähte sind nicht fest mit dem Griff verbunden und bei 100 °C bricht die Hölle los!!


Master Bond EP21TCHT-1 ist ein speziell formuliertes, zweikomponentiges, bei Raumtemperatur aushärtendes Epoxidsystem, das ohne Oberflächenvorbereitung eine gute Haftung an Kapton (Polyimidfolie) bietet. Dieses Epoxid eignet sich für Klebeanwendungen mit flexiblen Kapton-Schaltkreisen, geformter Spulenisolierung, Magnetdrahtisolierung usw. Neben Kapton bietet dieses Epoxid auch eine ausgezeichnete Haftung an Metallen, Glas, Keramik und verschiedenen anderen Kunststoffen. EP21TCHT-1 wird in verschiedenen elektrischen, elektronischen, Luft- und Raumfahrt- und optischen Anwendungen eingesetzt. Abgesehen von den oben genannten Eigenschaften sind einige der hervorstechenden Merkmale dieses Klebstoffs: Hervorragende kryogene Gebrauchstauglichkeit kombiniert mit großer Hochtemperaturbeständigkeit (4K bis 400°F). Überlegene dielektrische Festigkeit kombiniert mit hervorragender Wärmeleitfähigkeit (1,44 W/mK) Erfüllt die NASA-Spezifikationen für geringe Ausgasung, hervorragende Vakuumkompatibilität Hohe Glasübergangstemperatur Niedriger Wärmeausdehnungskoeffizient (18-20 ppm/°C)

This is a "master's" gift for the "expert"

"The Black Troll"
Hubert

[Clugh]

Ralph this is for you and your friends in Germany about my motor from Brenner Contra Drives

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 11:57 AM Brenner Sharp wrote:

Hey Hugh,

I swapped out the stator in the motor I have been running and flew your rewound stator yesterday. It works very well. The performance is identical to that of Bert Dekker's motors. The efficiency is also very good.

I can't properly judge motor efficiency without flying the motor on separate days under different weather conditions because there was very little wind yesterday, and the amplitude and direction of the wind significantly affect power consumption. However, with very little wind, I recorded a flight with the lowest energy consumption I have ever seen with my setup, 2600mah for the P25 schedule. Typical power consumption for P25 is 3800mah. I will continue flying with this motor to collect more information about motor efficiency.

The motor also ran cool as well. With an ambient temperature of 28C, the motor was 65C on the outside of the rotor.

Brenner...

Erzähl den anderen Wichsern in Deutschland Witze!

[Clugh]

Now in German
"Ich habe den Stator in dem von mir verwendeten Motor ausgetauscht und bin gestern mit Ihrem neu gewickelten Stator geflogen. Er funktioniert sehr gut. Die Leistung ist identisch mit den Motoren von Bert Dekker. Auch die Effizienz ist sehr gut.

Ich kann die Motoreffizienz nicht richtig beurteilen, ohne den Motor an verschiedenen Tagen bei unterschiedlichen Wetterbedingungen zu fliegen, da es gestern sehr wenig Wind gab und die Amplitude und Richtung des Windes den Stromverbrauch erheblich beeinflussen. Bei sehr wenig Wind habe ich jedoch einen Flug mit dem niedrigsten Stromverbrauch aufgezeichnet, den ich mit meinem Setup jemals gesehen habe, 2600 mAh für den P25-Zeitplan. Der typische Stromverbrauch für P25 beträgt 3800 mAh. Ich werde weiter mit diesem Motor fliegen, um weitere Informationen zur Motoreffizienz zu sammeln.

Der Motor lief auch kühl. Bei einer Umgebungstemperatur von 28 °C hatte der Motor 65 °C an der Außenseite des Rotors."

Brenner

[Clugh]

Now u can goto bed in Germany!

I'm pretty sure we will be flown at the WC's and i'll have the Kontronics factory rep looking over this 650 playa. I promise you that.

Tell more jokes to your little friends in Germany

He said its identical but recorded the best consumption numbers ever so ill have to see the newer data later to come.... I dont believe it will be identical but a Clugh thing because I believe it runs cooler than an endfest potted motor. They aren't going to dissipate heat identically no way...

Sound good Ralph ? Its still not good enough for me. I plan to be undisputed....



TTYL!!!
Hubert

[Clugh]

So for the American Pilots it is just as I said Powercroco . If they want a speed plane motor to outrun you. All they have to do is look me up! The M.E. will draft me up an airframe I conceive and ill print it Ralph and go from there. Be careful who you run up on in America bruh. He is a modeling wizard!!! We can both interpret and make use of Martin Hepperle's data and concepts as well as anyone so watch yourself playa. I haven't shown him all you're little prop molds and stuff yet. 🤨

Imma bake a cake for the sausage... Watch 😈

Danke
P.O.C.B.O.I.

[Clugh]

If we have access to true 3d scanning his software will give all the coordinates to the propellors anyway....
but we really not into the copy shop. There was a time very long ago where I looked at the software to analyze boat propellers but unfortunately it could not accommodate surface piercing super cavitation profiles like the Virgil Johnson 5J or Tulin and Buckart hydrofoils.

Anywhoo I got things to do.

you cant feed us baby....

TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

Hallo Ralph.
Ich sehe, dass du hinschaust. Ich möchte nur sagen, dass ich dir schon oft gesagt habe, dass Fehler und rassistische Beleidigungen nichts an der Funktionsweise der Maschinen ändern. Also nochmal viel Glück mit deiner Signatur. Du siehst damit wie ein Idiot aus, weil du für immer in der ersten Reihe auf meinen Seiten eingesperrt bist.

Boho1
Today, 03:59 PM

[Clugh]

A Clugh competition Pyro 650-62 rewind revisited.
OEM:
Kv: 643rpm/V (YGE 18deg)
Io: 1.9A @13.5V
R: 26.7mOhm
# of turns: 7+7
Termination: Delta
Single strand: 0.95mm
Copper surface: 9.92mm^2
Mass: 291gr


Here are the numbers of the Black Competition Version of the Pyro
6 mm shaft
10 poles
310 g / 10.9 oz
3.5 kW
19 mΩ Ri

Clugh competition
Kv: 655rpm/V (Castle 15 deg)
Io: 2.7A @11.4.V
R: 18.6 mOhm
# of turns: 8+8
Termination: Parallel wye
Single strand: 1.04mm
Copper surface: 16.64 mm^2 (+ 67%) from OEM
Mass: 320.7 gr

I weigh 10 grams more but I'm lower in resistance with 2 more turns of larger diameter wire. I have more copper in the slot that the factory competition version.

[Clugh]

The stator is so beautiful I dont want to touch it, I want to fit a winding that exceeds the Kontronics factory 650 competition motor copper fill levels without removing any enamel, Id rather my time be spent fitting the wire than prepping the stator so it easily fit. If I can avoid slot liners like Kapton and Nomex and the endplates, Thats what Ill go for every time. It leave me with only one thermal interface to worry about. The stator to the copper. I think its possible if the edges are broken on the silicon steel to wind on it bare, That would be the best thing to thermally couple the windings to. If the windings are securely held in place I think a person could get away with it for max slot space and thermal manage management of the machine. It's not over yet my boys. I have more masters cooling tricks up my sleeve to deal with the village expert on the German social media . I can increase the thermal conductivity across the air gap and into the external radiator ribbing on the bell by 400 percent. That would complete thermal coupling from the stator to the external bell heatsink. A maser would look at a better heatsink than ribbing and possibly amend to a deep knurl or diamond cut the bell for more surface area.

[Clugh]

And for my fellow Americans and the intrusive reptiles we have video of that lower power consumption F3A flight . The top level North American F3A pilots are fine and are in excellent hands here in the united state .

Look like the German social media has lost its buzz Ralph. What's going on? you falling to the bottom pimp...

TTYS
Hubert

[Clugh]

Powercroco

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VG Ralph

Hey! we got action....😂

Way to get it back to the top so fast Ralph but I still have the same question as the last 4 wound motors youve shown us. What do you plan to secure the wires with. Endfest? Does the last 4 users specify no securing of their wires? You haven't shown one potted since I went down this road... whats wrong you don't want to copy the black troll ? So then you have to use endfest. at .15 wm/k

Decision decisions..... are really difficult when you got all your scorpion fans you wind for watching isn't it especially when you tell them Its me that needs to study?

I guess U can always divert and show the more colored t shirts....



Hubert

[Clugh]

My answer to any scorpion 45 would be a Neu 46 series with a better topology and higher efficiency all together... We know we make more torque and have higher saturation points. We have a special magnet retention alloy that can be shrunk over the bell and give us extended RPM range if we need that but 12,000 rpm will be good for most direct drive setup anyway. It doesn't make sense to run a large external hi pole rotor at high RPMs as that loses all the advantage it brings. On a George Mirov high pitched sawblade this motor in OEM form can deliver it at 90% efficiency and well over 6 grams of thrust per watt. at 0nly 69 amperes. At that performance level 3000 wats equals 18Kg of thrust that's right at 40 pounds for an American. Wind your 45s but please pot them because they were truly a failure anyway in the scorpion line. We can read the German. review you gave on them many times..


Hubert

[Clugh]

Hey I see your are still here...The other motor from America I can eat your expensive 45 with only cost 94 dollars. And that's a cobra. Do you see the iron cooling? It is a more efficient machine off the bench in the first place, Some cobras post a max ETA of 95%. It is a gorgeous 14 pole machine that could be modified to the flussperren 14 pole cut which is your dream machine
Boho1
Today, 01:36 AM

You dont have to dwell here all night baby . It will be well into your German evening before I post the video of cool running's...



TTYL
Hubert

[Clugh]

"Ich habe den Stator in dem von mir verwendeten Motor ausgetauscht und bin gestern mit Ihrem neu gewickelten Stator geflogen. Er funktioniert sehr gut. Die Leistung ist identisch mit den Motoren von Bert Dekker. Auch die Effizienz ist sehr gut.

Ich kann die Motoreffizienz nicht richtig beurteilen, ohne den Motor an verschiedenen Tagen bei unterschiedlichen Wetterbedingungen zu fliegen, da es gestern sehr wenig Wind gab und die Amplitude und Richtung des Windes den Stromverbrauch erheblich beeinflussen. Bei sehr wenig Wind habe ich jedoch einen Flug mit dem niedrigsten Stromverbrauch aufgezeichnet, den ich mit meinem Setup jemals gesehen habe, 2600 mAh für den P25-Zeitplan. Der typische Stromverbrauch für P25 beträgt 3800 mAh. Ich werde weiter mit diesem Motor fliegen, um weitere Informationen zur Motoreffizienz zu sammeln.

Der Motor lief auch kühl. Bei einer Umgebungstemperatur von 28 °C hatte der Motor 65 °C an der Außenseite des Rotors."

Brenner

[Clugh]

He can call me any racist name he chooses on German social media but I want the Anercan pilots and his friend in Germany to understand I got his ass on speed dial. Whenever I post..and my.numbers are much better than his....to his face...u can crown him but he evokes exactly nothing but these better motors with his epithet !! It's totally useless fur better performance.

He can call me a n#####r and I laugh 🤣 because his motor still is not better than mine.

Boho1
Today, 03:50 AM

Now im done with it because we have much much larger fish to fry this year.

Bye Bye. Because like I said b4 he can't feed me if he wanted to. So enjoy his lies on RGC and HELIFREAKS who I'm finding out bans every body for stupid crap anyway. Gerds Crocoword as you can see has No issue with his epithet signature though. History has shown the plane driven by hate loses every time so why anyone would want something from someone that stands for that in their plane and call themselves an American is beyond me. Just make sure you keep soliciting his NAZI service because I dont have anything for you and I mean that!!!

Your German expert is subscribed to school here in America and just be running his mouth. He is still pulling hard on the wire.clearly.



Sincerely,
Hubert AKA POCBOI @ Clugh motors

[Clugh]

Boho1
Member
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Location: Germany


U read it now you can go tell; more Jokes in Germany Ralph!