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  • Clugh
    Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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    #5021
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    Robert Green fliegt ein Clugh-Kontronics 600 Brenner-Contra-Drive mit speziell präparierten Hybridlagern und ist begeistert davon!
    Oh, ich verstehe. Weil du angeblich für eine Wohltätigkeitsorganisation windest (nicht um Steuern zu zahlen), solltest du dann weiterhin verbrannte Motoren bei dir warten lassen. Lose zitiert vom mehrfachen F5B-Weltmeister Gerben Van Berkum am besten gefragt: „Wenn du die Ergebnisse eines Setups gesehen hast, was erwartest du anderes mit demselben Setup?“ Du weißt auch, dass er Neumotoren, Castle und APD fliegt – alles, was du NICHT fliegst...

    Weit entfernt von Balsaholz- und Birkenflitzern . So intelligent können sie nicht sein, wenn sie nicht wissen, dass APD besser ist als Sequre. Du und Thomas solltet euch schämen, denn wenn überhaupt, dann seid IHR es, die sie mit eurem geposteten Unsinn ausbremsen. Und billige chinesische Alternativen, die modifiziert werden müssen, bevor sie funktionieren.

    Meine Piloten kaufen die beste Ausrüstung und machen Fortschritte. Ich schätze, deswegen shoppen sie nicht bei dir.

    :no_mouth:
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    • Clugh
      Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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      #5022
      If you get the chance, ask Audiosmith what he's been doing in audio – I've been in the industry for 40 years, after all. Where is his audio? Here's just a part of mine.
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      • Clugh
        Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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        #5023
        Originally posted by Clugh
        AL from Helifeaks sent me this big boy Combove MENSA 12N10P. He inquired about 1.6mm but that's not an American size. I dont see anything wrong with it in its current state but since I've been given the flexibly to not wind it with 1.6mm the door is open to either wind it with an American equivalent which is going to be slightly larger or do something totally different. He just wants the kv around 525. Since he understand the cable size is not everything maybe he will get a 3 or 4 layer machine....

        14 AWG is a minimum of 1.628 mm 15AWG is minimum of 1.450mm of bare solid wire.

        Who cares about old pink cars in Gotha that need a larger radiator? 😏 They want a Tesla's , E Beemer, or Range rover's winding Tech inside and cooler rotors..... Gotha motors cant provide it because they cant wind it so they just make excuses and falsehoods how it doesnt work.

        How would they know if they have never wound and run one sucessfully????

        All you have to do is ask them for video.....
        The user doesn't have 6 weeks to wait even though the wire was special order so I sent it back to Huntington beach CA as is. I have a lot of contract work to attend to so no worries for the heli kids..... I dont rush anything ever. So back to the contract winding for Bryan Herbert @ CK AERO. I also have a few new 600's 11's coming in from Kontronics Direcvt.

        There was absolutely nothing wrong with the OEM winding done by Lee in the first place. :yawning_face: Kinda glad because the heli pilot obviously got his 1.6mm desires straight out of Germany . That's a Mr bean wind all day its equivalents to 14.5 AWG for US. H doesnt really need it now. He should just fly his combove till it breaks. And until then be happy with the china iron. Lee already has sizable cable on it in an Ortho cyclic lay.

        TTYL
        Hubert
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        • Clugh
          Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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          #5024
          Ill wrap the factory Cobra iron with the 1.6mm and sell it and get ready for the Arnon7 cores with thinner lams and thicker arms

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          • Clugh
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            #5025
            Hier ist noch ein Pyro 600, frisch vorbereitet für die nationalen Meisterschaften am kommenden Wochenende. Ich frage mich, ob Bean schon einen Piloten dafür am Start hat? Ich bezweifle es. Natürlich werden einige Piloten aus dem Team Canada und dem Team USA, die meine Motoren mit Spezialwicklung fliegen, an den Start gehen. Bean und Anakin sollten eigentlich einen ihrer „Piloten“ mit einer dieser pinkfarbenen Maschinen von Bean antreten lassen – oder mit dem „Tatooine-Bootsmotor“ ... Ich frage mich, ob Bean den Hybrid schon ohne seine „Spaghetti“ wickeln kann? Seine Piloten sind noch nicht bereit für Hybride oder irgendetwas, das über einfache oder doppelte Wicklungslagen hinausgeht, oder? Sind sie überhaupt schon bereit für den nächsten Schritt – den Wechsel weg vom „Monkey“ und dem „Crocodile“?

            Anakin muss Bean dazu raten, sich davon zu lösen, an den alten pinkfarbenen Kisten festzuhalten, und auf Maschinen umzusteigen, die eher seinem „Lucid“ ähneln.​

            :stuck_out_tongue_wi
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            • Clugh
              Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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              #5026
              Wo sind die Daten von Beans? Oder ist er nur jemand in den sozialen Medien, der unbelegte Behauptungen über etwas aufstellt, das er selbst nie betrieben hat? Wenn man es mit einem Motor ernst meint – warum sollte ein Pilot dann nicht dessen Daten zu dem Thema verlangen?


              Du willst keine Fortschritte machen?

              WOW!
              :no_mouth:



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              • Clugh
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                #5027
                "Grill food" for handicrafts | Page 19 | RC-Network.de​

                And so Beane let me understand your last post in Germany. Are you suggesting while manufacturing a motor if i break the tooling to pass that cost onto the consumer??? Yeah man u crazy.... and confirm who does that besides you maybe since its YOUR suggestion.....
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                • Clugh
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                  #5028
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                  Looks like ill be winding 10 of these for an ev project.
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                  • Clugh
                    Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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                    #5029
                    Hi PC,

                    The china sequre esc's you and you commrades pushed on the pilots doesn't look real sequre on the pyro 650 🙈 It certainly isn't a castle or APD... you'll never set any significant speed records with the cheap thing....😏 So much for hacking it into a high quality offering.

                    😅

                    Danke,
                    Hubert
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                    • Clugh
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                      #5030
                      The USER is SMART and ,moves to APD 😎 Its time to get real and get rid of the dinosaurs from YGE over 15 years old and accept that a Chinese 60 dollar drive aint gone cut it for world class competition. And nothing is fun flying about the smoke!
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                      • Clugh
                        Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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                        #5031
                        I also read your posts in Germany about long cables. And wonder why then you still cant wind a hybrid or understand what it's imbedded load reactors would do for long cables. I also still dont get why you dont run real bulk capacitance which would allow the drives to run better.

                        Ich sehe, dass Christian immer noch nichts fertiggestellt oder ein Modell laufen lassen hat.👀

                        lustig 😏
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                        • Clugh
                          Current F3A world champion American motor winder.

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                          #5032
                          Christian Lucas, I haven't seen you post in awhile in Germany, so I still hope you are ok. Life is more important than arguments about RC motors. I'm real on or off a forum and still remember things that you did to to assist me like giving me the laminations. Because I defend my view doesn't mean I've forgotten that or want anything bad for you or your health. I hope you are doing well an am serious when I ask what are you working on these days. Without you posting rc-network.de its really rather flat there.

                          BTW one on the best F3A pilots is asking about the hybrid windings. You know the 12n10P and 12n14p work from all or past discussions and my real video of it running. It has a very low Idle current so I dont need to say more to you for you to understand the advantage Christian. You have the papers from ABB I sent. Please wind one so there is a truthful example for the pilots there. You know powercroco winds the same old thing. Someone besides US has got to be ready for something new after 20 plus years... He seems to relish in repairs but I hate seeing a motor back. My plan is to work on a simple bulletproof motor that they can fly for multiple season without fail. Some time a locked gearbox can cause failures. Im about to experiment with turbine bearings for their load capability and drives that have lock rotor or over amps protection.

                          We don't like "grilled motors" in the USA the only thing we want grilled is the bratwurst....

                          I have a torque sensor for real HP calculation not dreams the problem is the range they sent me is too big and I've waited for replacement from China for over year. I'll have to work that out.

                          Hope you taking care of yourself.

                          Danke,
                          Hubert
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