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  • Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post
    Finally finished the F4 Blue Angel. As I mentioned before, MRC came through in a big way when my original F4 had issues with the elevator servo. I replaced that plane and was able to replicate the original, which I did in my version of a "Key West" Sundowner in camo. With MRC's help, I got another ARF version and used the EDF and ESC from the first for a complete plane. My wife talked me into doing this in a Blue Angel, but I was skeptical. Of my 25 planes, this is the first that I have done a complete repaint of a foamy. Half way into it, I was like what have I taken on, so much masking and trying to get the right colors. Used the Rustoleum 2x flat white primer but couldn't find a decent blue. The "official" blue angel blue sprays I found looked too dark and "muddy" to me and the 2x blue's I liked were high gloss, a great shine but showing all the foam imperfections. Finally found a Satin, which gave a decent shine and hid some of the foam imperfections. Then used the same 2x brand silver as the primer on the tail and horizonal stabilizers, but that somehow reacted with the original stock paint under the primer and buckled. Fixed it with hand painting with Testors Chrome trim enamel paint. The Blue Angel Yellow bottled paint is now only available in acrylic, which I will never use because it doesn't cover well and peels like rubber. Found 3 small bottles in enamel which saved the day (I will only use enamel bottled paint). Callie's graphics completed the project. Still need to do the 3D exhaust nozzle's, but MRC has been out of them for a while, so I can wait for that. After all that work, I'm really pleased with the outcome.

    Did the 3D cockpit and pilots and replaced the nose landing gear pin with a modified Spitfire axel I have in spare parts for that plane (never broke the stock pins, but still use the modified one's cause you know I'm bound for nose gear first landing sometime). After building 3 of these, I did notice that occasionally, snaking either the vertical or horizontal servo wires with the cable wire ended up slightly missing the channel above the ESC and the wire ended up below and touching the ESC, a sure sign for a melted servo wire. Fortunately I removed the EDF cover before finishing and making sure all wires were above the ESC on all planes, so just a warning for anyone out there.

    Now all I have to do is figure out a way to convince my wife that I need another F4 in Marine grey. I think I'll have a better chance of winning the lottery!
    Looks nice! Great job!

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    • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post
      Very nice Hugh. It is interesting that you dislike acrylics....they are all I will use now. I am talking the Model Masters acrylics which are a good quality. They cover well, dry fast and are easy to clean up. I always only paint light colors over a white primer surface and I avoid using any kind of rattle can for color after primer because sometimes the solvents in the paint can react to what has already been laid down. I also will only now clear coat with Polycrylic. I tried Polyurethane but it yellowed too much over white. In the end, to each their own.
      The only reason I don't like the acrylics (bottled for hand painting) is that even over a primer, to get a good finish I need to apply 2-3 coats, where with the enamel I get an excellent thick finish with only 1-2 coats. I mask the edges with the 2.5mm testors masking tape and when I remove the tape, often times the acrylic peels off without a sharp edge even in the area over the primer I need covered. With the enamel, that never happens and I get nice clean, sharp edges. But then again, I'm a complete disaster when it comes to painting (just look at the walls in my house) so listening to me is not a great idea.
      Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
      Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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      • Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post
        Finally finished the F4 Blue Angel. My wife talked me into doing this in a Blue Angel, but I was skeptical. After all that work, I'm really pleased with the outcome.
        HW, I have found it is always wise to listen to she whose authority exceeds your rank. Absolutely beautiful work. Bravo Zulu. Best, LB
        "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
        ~Lucky B*st*rd~

        "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
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        • HW, I have found it is always wise to listen to she whose authority exceeds your rank. Absolutely beautiful work. Bravo Zulu. Best, LB


          Ha..... LOVE THIS... so well said!
          Current Hanger: FW, F4.F22,F14, Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, Top Flite P-40, Top RC P-51 H9 P-51, SebArt Avanti, Yellow aircraft Spitfire, T Jeti Extreme Flight EDGE, DS-24 Carbon,

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          • Gorgeous job Hugh! :Cool:
            My YouTube RC videos:
            https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda

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            • Hey guys and gals,
              Does anyone offer a scale printed tail hook for our F4?
              I want to make mine functional like I did on my T45.

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              • Originally posted by Jhnybgd View Post
                Hey guys and gals, Does anyone offer a scale printed tail hook for our F4? I want to make mine functional like I did on my T45.
                JBG, you're reading my mind. I will make one when I build my F-4, though that won't be until later this winter. If you find a stl file, please post it. Also, I will print one for you if you don't have access to a 3DPrinter.:Cool: Could be a really cool addition to the Phantom. Best, LB
                "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                ~Anonymous~

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                • Originally posted by Elbee View Post

                  JBG, you're reading my mind. I will make one when I build my F-4, though that won't be until later this winter. If you find a stl file, please post it. Also, I will print one for you if you don't have access to a 3DPrinter.:Cool: Could be a really cool addition to the Phantom. Best, LB
                  Thank you Elbee that wouldbe great.
                  I am wanting a printer but know nothing about them or how to use them and have too many irons in the fire,if you know what I mean to fiddle with anything new right now.

                  I would definetly pay you!

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                  • Anyone seen a 3D printed gun pod anywhere? I’m not finding one but definitely would love to pay someone to make it happen for mine. I just put Callie’s Gunfighter decals on it.

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                    • Originally posted by Jhnybgd View Post

                      Thank you Elbee that would be great. I am wanting a printer but know nothing about them or how to use them and have too many irons in the fire if you know what I mean to fiddle with anything new right now. I would definitely pay you!
                      JBG, Are you crazy? I am happy to do it. though I do not know what your schedule is. Again it will be later this winter as I am still building my Flightline Spitfire and Christmas is near. I do know what you mean...once you get a 3D Printer it will consume your time especially at the beginning during the learning curve which I am finding is a never-ending story. LOL. Best, LB

                      "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                      ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                      "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                      ~Anonymous~

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                      • Thanks Ebee,I am not in a hurry.
                        still waiting on motion to release the gray F4

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                        • Originally posted by andrew_flyguy View Post
                          Anyone seen a 3D printed gun pod anywhere? I’m not finding one but definitely would love to pay someone to make it happen for mine. I just put Callie’s Gunfighter decals on it.
                          Like this?

                          SU23 . STL files are constrained for a print bed of 200mmX200mmX180mmadded Pylon
                          Pat

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                          • Originally posted by andrew_flyguy View Post
                            Anyone seen a 3D printed gun pod anywhere? I’m not finding one but definitely would love to pay someone to make it happen for mine. I just put Callie’s Gunfighter decals on it.
                            I have designed one and put it on thinhiverse. I liked the way it came out. The preview isnt working but here is the link.
                            SU23 . STL files are constrained for a print bed of 200mmX200mmX180mmadded Pylon

                            SU23 . STL files are constrained for a print bed of 200mmX200mmX180mm added Pylon

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                            • The most comprehensive list of F4 Phantom Liveries I have found!



                              Some cool SH*T Here!
                              Current Hanger: FW, F4.F22,F14, Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, Top Flite P-40, Top RC P-51 H9 P-51, SebArt Avanti, Yellow aircraft Spitfire, T Jeti Extreme Flight EDGE, DS-24 Carbon,

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                              • Originally posted by apmech1 View Post
                                I have designed one and put it on Thingiverse. I liked the way it came out. The preview isn't working but here is the link.
                                APM1, Thank you. :Cool: Best, LB
                                "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                                ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                                "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                                ~Anonymous~

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                                • Originally posted by Elbee View Post

                                  APM1, Thank you. :Cool: Best, LB
                                  No problem.

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                                  • Thanks for the Thingiverse links!

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                                    • Wanted to share my progress thus far on replacement F4 8S .....
                                      Current Hanger: FW, F4.F22,F14, Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, Top Flite P-40, Top RC P-51 H9 P-51, SebArt Avanti, Yellow aircraft Spitfire, T Jeti Extreme Flight EDGE, DS-24 Carbon,

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                                      • E4DG, Looks great. I had mentioned in the Spitfire thread that I thought you were going to 'black-base' your F-4, so disregard. LOL Which livery have you chosen this time? Best, LB
                                        "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                                        ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                                        "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                                        ~Anonymous~

                                        AMA#116446

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                                        • Thanks ELBEE!!! I chickened out on the black basing! I have some F4 stabs I will be practicing on! Will post the results... Your spit is Off the hook awesome!
                                          Current Hanger: FW, F4.F22,F14, Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, Top Flite P-40, Top RC P-51 H9 P-51, SebArt Avanti, Yellow aircraft Spitfire, T Jeti Extreme Flight EDGE, DS-24 Carbon,

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