Official Freewing 90mm F-16 V2 EDF Jet Thread

[Hugh Wiedman]

Is the RadioMaster TX16s working with this newest Spektrum (+plus ) update. ? Anyone here use it yet !

As Evan said, it is possible to update the AR637T/838360T/10360T to plus by simply using the Spektrum programmer app on your home computer, along with the Spektrum Programming cable SPMA3065. The question is can you then program the RX using Forward Programming on your RadioMaster TX16 for full functionality for gains/orientation/FM's/gain channels/etc. If you already were able to use any of those older 3 AS3X RX's with your TX and program them, you can then program any "plus" Spektrum RX the same way.

I just don't know if those RX's are only compatible (for functionality programming) with other TX's. You could always call HH and ask them how/if you can use your TX with their AS3X receivers. Non AS3X Spektrum RX's will work with most other TX's. I suspect HH/Spektrum does this to "force" people who want to use their gyro receivers to also buy their TX's. I also assume these gyro RX upgrades were done to try and keep up with the $300+ Cortex Demo gyros.

[Evan D]

The update is for specific Spektrum transmitters and receivers.

If you mean for the receivers? Yes the receivers still work as long as you have DSMX on your RM. Yes the upgraded capabilities can be used on the receivers if you can figure out a way to do the forward programming which, as far as I know the RM can not do. Of course the transmitter up date only applies to specific Spektrum transmitters.

[BirdTree]

No, the ESC doesnt matter it can however give you additional info. So just the reciever and transmitter will do the trick

Is the RadioMaster TX16s working with this newest Spektrum (+plus ) update. ? Anyone here use it yet !

[Reptielenfreak]

No, the ESC doesnt matter it can however give you additional info. So just the reciever and transmitter will do the trick

[BirdTree]

The Spektrum RX upgrade to "plus" has made a huge difference. Also turned my F18's from an adventure in flying to incredibly rock solid and a breeze to land perfectly every time.:

With this new"Plus" upgrade to the Spectrum receivers, can you use all of it's features and benefits even if you pair it with a non-Spektrum ESC and a RadioMaster TX16s transmitter? Or do the Spectrum "Plus" receivers require a Spectrum ESC and Spectrum transmitter to take full advantage of all it's functions ?

[rifleman_btx]

Looks crystal clear in the videos.

Yes I seen an fpv video with it already, and totally agree that it is crystal clear.

[Reptielenfreak]

If you want to make it move faster you have to give the gear etc a seperate channel and "tune" it manually. I think john from 2brothersrc on youtube habe some setup guids about that.

[kallend]

Does the control board result in glacially slow gear/door sequencing, like the boards in FW's (new) Eurofighter and twin 64mm F-14

[Evan D]

Both. On this I’ll be bypassing the board (it’s not a blue box) for everything except gear and lights. I’ll have flaperons, tailerons and separate steering as on other F-16.

Interesting the boards aileron slots both in and out are marked flaps. The cable is labeled ailerons.

[Reptielenfreak]

In order to get the flaps/flaperons do you leave one aileron in the control board or do they both need to go in the reciever?

[Hugh Wiedman]

The V1 was underpowered based on most posts in different threads. The landing gear also needed beefing up. Basically what was improved were considered shortfalls of the V1. Considering when the jet came out it was great for its time, only after all the improvements in EDF did the shortfalls become more noticeable.

Agree with all of that! I still have my V1 and fly it quite often, especially after converting it to 8S earlier this year. A huge difference from 6S. Flies on a SMC 8S HiV 5900, weighing 900gr giving me almost 5 minutes of flight time. So much better than on 6S, especially being on grass (the kind you mow, not blow-although that might help me relax). 🤯

I'll eventually get the V2, always loved the F16, but will absolutely get it in 8S. And the Spektrum RX upgrade to "plus" has made a huge difference. Also turned my F18's from an adventure in flying to incredibly rock solid and a breeze to land perfectly every time (something I've never been able to do before).

[Aros]

The V2 has a smaller wing span and is heavier by the published numbers. That means the V2 will probably land faster than the V1 and probably have a higher stall speed.

More power may help overcome some issues caused by higher loading but I expect that higher power will really cause more crashes because more power really has a tendency to get you in trouble when you are stalling. Having airbrakes and reverse thrust will be a bigger plus landing than overall thrust for this plane.

All my opinion of course. And yes, I ordered one first thing yesterday.

I don't disagree. I regret being simplistic in my statement. I fully expect this model to come in at a higher speed and perhaps have a higher stall speed. You're correct, more power isn't an end all solution to a high wing-loaded model. But I stand by my statement...It does help. It most certainly does not hurt.

[Evan D]

Noted and agreed. I bought mine almost 10 years ago and as I’ve said in multiple threads it was under powered and had a high wing loading. Even upgrading to the inrunner available then batteries were heavy and battery space limited. I fly off pavement and never had a issue with the gear on the V1. The F-104 had the same gear and I did break the plastic mounting on it (still have that gear set in a drawer). The V2 looks to have the same plastic mount.

the V2 may be even heavier loaded, smaller wing and heavier by the specs… at least we have better fans and batteries now.

[handyman220]

The V1 was underpowered based on most posts in different threads. The landing gear also needed beefing up. Basically what was improved were considered shortfalls of the V1. Considering when the jet came out it was great for its time, only after all the improvements in EDF did the shortfalls become more noticeable.

[Evan D]

Looks crystal clear in the videos.

You know what I'm going to ask, based on the videos I post up. How does the canopy compare to the old v1 in clarity? Man the v1 canopy was second to none for absolute perfection out of the box for fpv use.

[Evan D]

What do you consider the V1's problems?


"Looks like the new version fixed the problems of the V1"

[handyman220]

So after having a V1 and selling it, I placed an order for the V2. Looks like the new version fixed the problems of the V1. I was surprised it does not come stock with the engine light/afterburner.

[rifleman_btx]

Good question, I am sure someone in the forum can answer. Plenty of stat junkies out there. This is actually going to be my first 8S 90mm EDF Jet. I've always flown 6S. It will be fascinating to see what difference I can tell when the time comes.

You know what I'm going to ask, based on the videos I post up. How does the canopy compare to the old v1 in clarity? Man the v1 canopy was second to none for absolute perfection out of the box for fpv use.

[Reptielenfreak]

I think it will, so maybe some epoxy around the plastic gear holding parts

[sunbeam]

I guess the F-16 V2 has enough power to start from gras, maybe even longer gras. I guess the height from the front gear door will be enough for taking off from gras.

But what about landing on gras? Will the plane emmediately drop on the nose due to the resistance of gras after touch down? I had these problems with the 70mm F-16 V2. That is the only concern that keeps me from ordering.