Official FlightLine 1600mm B-25J Mitchell PNP Thread

[Tom]

We received the second shipment of B-25 which were shipped from the factory weeks after the first shipment. Since this second shipment did not go through TWO different customs inspections, it arrived before the first shipment. The first shipment is still sitting waiting for the CPSC customs exam. This second shipment is a small batch. We are in the process of sending these out following the date/time you ordered. In other words, the first person who ordered the B-25 will get the first one, the second person who ordered will get the second one,...... This is a small shipment but I want to get some out into your patiently waiting hands! We'll ship the remainder as soon as the second customs inspection takes place.

[Larry D]

Thanks for the update Tom!!

[Oxotnik]

RE: measuring the CG. You want the CG to be as low as possible. Low wings typically are CG balanced upside down. Vice Versa for high wings. Mid wings... use your best judgement. On initial setup, I typically will balance mine with the gear retracted, then with the gear extended, to see how much the CG moves. It shouldn't move much gear up versus down.

I received the notice that my B-25 is inbound. Happy day!!! :-)

[handyman220]

RE: measuring the CG. You want the CG to be as low as possible. Low wings typically are CG balanced upside down. Vice Versa for high wings. Mid wings... use your best judgement. On initial setup, I typically will balance mine with the gear retracted, then with the gear extended, to see how much the CG moves. It shouldn't move much gear up versus down.

I received the notice that my B-25 is inbound. Happy day!!! :-)

Must be my lucky day also, received a tracking notice for my B-25 today!

[Fast N Light]

Purchased mine June 27th 5PM PST. No tracking email so far...

Some additional help with the scale rims would be appreciated.

Is there room for Robart 3.5" and 2.5" tires? The actual Robart ODs are approx 88mm and 63mm. FL OEM tire ODs previously reported at 85mm and 60mm above.

Could someone share the precise front and main axle diameters and rim width at axle? eg caliper accurate to +-0.01mm

[Oxotnik]

FedEx sez that my Mitchell Bomber will be landing on my porch tomorrow. <happy dance>

For what it's worth, I want to say that I really, really appreciate getting preferential treatment (meaning getting one of the first aircraft), for committing to buy and putting my money down early. Another toy airplane company, whom I won't name, but whose initials are Horizon Hobby, have pissed me off more that once on preorders. Their 1.5m FW-190 is an aircraft that I REALLY wanted, and I preordered as soon as I was able to do so. I was probably in the first 10 to preorder. Then, before I got mine shipped to me, local hobby shops had them on their shelves. I think that hobby shops had them a whole week before I received mine. I know that HH values its brick-n-mortar distributors and wants to keep them happy, but it sucks how they handle preorders. I'll never preorder anything else from HH, and I rarely buy any of their overpriced SAFE products any more, anyway. Semi-rant over.

I remain very comfortable pre-ordering from Motion. Thank you, MotionRC, for taking care of your loyal customers!

[Evan D]

I don’t buy much from HH and if I do it’s through Amazon.

[MikeT]

"Then, before I got mine shipped to me, local hobby shops had them on their shelves. I think that hobby shops had them a whole week before I received mine"

LOL, you really think you were the first to order that? Here's how it works , Horizon Dealers get 1st shot at pre-orders and delivery of new product first. As it should be , we do 3 or 4 orders a week for Horizon. LHS deserve to get it 1st. While HH is no where near perfect LHS's don't have much of a choice as far as vendors, I wish Motion had a dealer program.
Mike

[Oxotnik]

"Then, before I got mine shipped to me, local hobby shops had them on their shelves. I think that hobby shops had them a whole week before I received mine"

LOL, you really think you were the first to order that? Here's how it works , Horizon Dealers get 1st shot at pre-orders and delivery of new product first. As it should be , we do 3 or 4 orders a week for Horizon. LHS deserve to get it 1st. While HH is no where near perfect LHS's don't have much of a choice as far as vendors, I wish Motion had a dealer program.
Mike

Toward the first of the online pre-orders...
It's implied that if you pro-order, you will get it as soon as it's available. If the pre-order announcement would've said, "as soon as the dealers get theirs, we'll start sending out online pre-orders, I wouldn't just saved my pre-order money and bought directly from my LHS. I'd actually prefer to buy through my LHS anyway, and would've gotten it quicker, too. Just saying, I'll never pre-order anything else through HH. I don't really care for HH products much any more anyway; so, it doesn't really matter.

It'd be cool if Motion had a brick-n-mortar presence of some sort, but I don't think that that's in their business model. I'd kinda hate to see a dealership markup added to the final price though. Can't have everything...

[MikeT]

Toward the first of the online pre-orders...
It's implied that if you pro-order, you will get it as soon as it's available. If the pre-order announcement would've said, "as soon as the dealers get theirs, we'll start sending out online pre-orders, I wouldn't just saved my pre-order money and bought directly from my LHS. I'd actually prefer to buy through my LHS anyway, and would've gotten it quicker, too. Just saying, I'll never pre-order anything else through HH. I don't really care for HH products much any more anyway; so, it doesn't really matter.

It'd be cool if Motion had a brick-n-mortar presence of some sort, but I don't think that that's in their business model. I'd kinda hate to see a dealership markup added to the final price though. Can't have everything...

That's not "implied" anywhere. There's no telling just how many will be pre-ordered so it's a crap shoot. Motion in the past has oversold pre-orders ( the 80mm A-10for one) I pre-ordered mine on the day it was announced and got it on the second shipment. It is what it is regardless of the supplier. Motion does a good job and since Horizon doesn't really supply what Motion does I always send my customers to them for items Horizon doesn't offer. Motion is after a different customer than Horizon is. It's nice that I can offer my customers that buy Horizon stuff on the spot replacement of products with "issues" along with support on those items..

Mike

[desertdrifter7]

I understand the pre-order process. I don't have a problem with it unless the company has oversold a product that they know they will not be able to deliver as promised. Positive Grid is a great example. They offered a great little amp and I pre-ordered one. Although 6 months after the promised delivery date I could not get even an estimation as to when I would receive my amp and yet the company continued offering the amp on a pre-order basis. I eventually asked for a refund and bought a different amp which filled my needs perfectly. I understand the delays due to the inspections and I am patiently waiting for my B-25. I am hoping to see it by the end of August.

[Oxotnik]

That's not "implied" anywhere. There's no telling just how many will be pre-ordered so it's a crap shoot. Motion in the past has oversold pre-orders ( the 80mm A-10for one) I pre-ordered mine on the day it was announced and got it on the second shipment. It is what it is regardless of the supplier. Motion does a good job and since Horizon doesn't really supply what Motion does I always send my customers to them for items Horizon doesn't offer. Motion is after a different customer than Horizon is. It's nice that I can offer my customers that buy Horizon stuff on the spot replacement of products with "issues" along with support on those items..

Mike

I think that it is implied that if you pre-order that you'll be at the head of the line to get that product. Why else would anyone pre-order?

I'm not going to split hairs with you though. As I said in the earlier post, if I'm going to buy a HH product, I'd rather get it through my LHS anyway, if I know that the LHS will carry the product that I want. The point that I was originally trying to make is that I'll never pre-order from HH again, but am comfortable pre-odering from Motion, even when things don't go perfectly as planned.

I get that you're a brick-n-mortar hobby shop owner. Your perspective is a bit different than us end users. It's a tough business, trying to compete with web sales. Too many LHS's are closing their doors. I hate to see that. That's horrible for the hobby, and for the shop owners.

[MikeT]

I think that it is implied that if you pre-order that you'll be at the head of the line to get that product. Why else would anyone pre-order?

I'm not going to split hairs with you though. As I said in the earlier post, if I'm going to buy a HH product, I'd rather get it through my LHS anyway, if I know that the LHS will carry the product that I want. The point that I was originally trying to make is that I'll never pre-order from HH again, but am comfortable pre-odering from Motion, even when things don't go perfectly as planned.

I get that you're a brick-n-mortar hobby shop owner. Your perspective is a bit different than us end users. It's a tough business, trying to compete with web sales. Too many LHS's are closing their doors. I hate to see that. That's horrible for the hobby, and for the shop owners.

Not a owner I do a few days a week at the LHS as a retirement gig. My "perspective" is helping people be successful at the hobby and enjoy it , nothing more. On a side note " as a end user" I have a 2 car garage full of planes from all the suppliers you can think of, also on the board of our R/C club . Also I agree with the closing of shops every day I hear of anther going away. Sad.
Mike

[Drdoom]

My brand new B-25 is "Out for delivery."

[Elbee]

Y'all, Like many of you, I received my Mitchell today via FedEx.

The now famous "Blue Tape" Outer Shipping Box had few dings and slight tears, but nothing that penetrated into the finely decorated inner box.

Opened her up and saw one beautiful B-25J. I have wanted one, like, forever.

Happy Customer here, Boys-n-Girls.

Best, LB

[borntoolate]

Mine is scheduled for Monday.

[Oxotnik]

Landed safely.

[Drdoom]

I just received My B-25 Mitchell and it is flawless. Almost too nice to fly. Thanks again Motion RC this is fabulous.

[themudduck]

I placed my preorder minutes after I saw the announcement. No shipment notification for me yet.

[Evan D]

SO the question is really when did you see the announcement. Minutes after it was made or days? As Tom has said the ones that have shipped are actually from a small second shipment that was received before the main, large, first shipment that is still undergoing inspections.