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  • Russ
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    • Dec 2016
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    #181
    Originally posted by doctormike
    The Doctor****ADDENDUM. Use VARATHANE waterbase polyurethane instead of Minwax. It is MUCH better quality. Sorry, guys. I just learned this. The Doctor
    I've been using Minwax for years on my foamies, thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Never thought of using it as a primer...nice!

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    • Grossman56
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      #182
      both are great, I've been using Minwax PRO spar Urethane, IMHO, it gives me the glossiest finish. I also have used the Varathane version as well, I just find that the Minwax Pro is the glossiest

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      • thisguy65
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        #183
        Great thread. I bought Minwax MATTE from walmart and I be darn if it still has a shine to it.

        I did notice when it came to putting it on color reds I had to apply it heavy and then spread it out, had to keep the brush (foam) soaked


        I want to try Varathane matte, know any where to get it that is not a gallon?
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        -E-Flite: 1.2m P-47, Maule, Turbo Timber, 1.5m AT-6, 1.2m T-28, Dallas Doll, Viper, F-15, F-16, Wildcat, Carbon Cub -UMX: Mig-15, Pitts, Timber
        -FMS: Bae Hawk Motion: 1.6m Corsair, 850mm Mustang, 1.6m Spitfire Freewing: 1.7m A-10, F-22,

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        • Pheonix
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          #184
          Will 91% alcohol break the paint? I think it will. If you are going to repaint the plane, then, it does not matter. I tried to coat my new F4U with minwax and had an awful time getting it to stick. I had to sand it down using various grits of paper before I got a finish I could live with. I think it took at least 4 coats and sanding between each coat before reached a point of acceptable finish. What help was sanding and then using the spray tape and sanding again and using a foam brush. This is the very first time I had this issue. There was oil somewhere on the finish. The plane looks really nice now and I will leave good enough alone.

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          • boomer108
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            #185
            Originally posted by thisguy65
            Great thread. I bought Minwax MATTE from walmart and I be darn if it still has a shine to it.

            I did notice when it came to putting it on color reds I had to apply it heavy and then spread it out, had to keep the brush (foam) soaked


            I want to try Varathane matte, know any where to get it that is not a gallon?
            I don't know where you a located, but I get mine from Menards.

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            • thisguy65
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              #186
              Originally posted by boomer108

              I don't know where you a located, but I get mine from Menards.
              I'm located in NC
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              -E-Flite: 1.2m P-47, Maule, Turbo Timber, 1.5m AT-6, 1.2m T-28, Dallas Doll, Viper, F-15, F-16, Wildcat, Carbon Cub -UMX: Mig-15, Pitts, Timber
              -FMS: Bae Hawk Motion: 1.6m Corsair, 850mm Mustang, 1.6m Spitfire Freewing: 1.7m A-10, F-22,

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              • Hugh Wiedman
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                • Jan 2018
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                #187
                BTW, Could'nt get the Spar Urethane outdoor water based at Home Depot, so ordered it from Amazon a week ago (satin, semi-gloss and gloss). Amazon just sent me a notice that UPS damaged the shipment and is returning it to Amazon and they will credit me. So I just ordered them from Zoro, should have done that to begin with. Free shipping and never had a problem with Zoro.
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                • mr.frankenjet
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                  • Jan 2016
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                  #188
                  WRT minwax I get the satin in a spray can, apply dusty to keep the gloss down and blend everything, 2-3 light coats works best. The dusty texture helps to hide the foam and blend the decals.
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                  • Alpha
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                    • Feb 2015
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Pheonix
                    Will 91% alcohol break the paint? I think it will. If you are going to repaint the plane, then, it does not matter. I tried to coat my new F4U with minwax and had an awful time getting it to stick. I had to sand it down using various grits of paper before I got a finish I could live with. I think it took at least 4 coats and sanding between each coat before reached a point of acceptable finish. What help was sanding and then using the spray tape and sanding again and using a foam brush. This is the very first time I had this issue. There was oil somewhere on the finish. The plane looks really nice now and I will leave good enough alone.
                    Acetone will break the paint fairly quickly. 91% alcohol isn't as aggressive.

                    In general I wipe a model down with alcohol wipes then paint directly over the factory paint without any sanding or primer. However, certain paints will prefer light sanding to give more "bite". Vallejo's line of 2-in-1 primers works really well in my experience.
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                    • thisguy65
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC

                      Acetone will break the paint fairly quickly. 91% alcohol isn't as aggressive.

                      In general I wipe a model down with alcohol wipes then paint directly over the factory paint without any sanding or primer. However, certain paints will prefer light sanding to give more "bite". Vallejo's line of 2-in-1 primers works really well in my experience.
                      Like medical alcohol wipes?
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                      -E-Flite: 1.2m P-47, Maule, Turbo Timber, 1.5m AT-6, 1.2m T-28, Dallas Doll, Viper, F-15, F-16, Wildcat, Carbon Cub -UMX: Mig-15, Pitts, Timber
                      -FMS: Bae Hawk Motion: 1.6m Corsair, 850mm Mustang, 1.6m Spitfire Freewing: 1.7m A-10, F-22,

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                      • brk6188
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                        • Dec 2016
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                        #191
                        Anyone else have the problem with the Minwax poly spraying out blobs every now and again ? I have tried shaking can for ever, heating can in hot water, leaving can in sun (Florida) and does not solve. I usually spray by starting, making the pass and stopping. Continual spraying does not work any better. Nozzle is clean. Getting nervous now when I start. If quick can wipe away these blobs but ————. Finding brushing is the safer option lately. Applies to any sheen level.

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                        • Grossman56
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                          #192
                          Originally posted by thisguy65
                          Great thread. I bought Minwax MATTE from walmart and I be darn if it still has a shine to it.

                          I did notice when it came to putting it on color reds I had to apply it heavy and then spread it out, had to keep the brush (foam) soaked


                          I want to try Varathane matte, know any where to get it that is not a gallon?
                          Trying using an airbrush it will give you a flatter finish.

                          Grossman56
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                          • thisguy65
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                            #193
                            Originally posted by Grossman56

                            Trying using an airbrush it will give you a flatter finish.

                            Grossman56
                            Wonder why that is? I don’t have a air bush like use for detailing but I do have a hvlp gun. I bought some
                            of the spar utherne that people mention have better results.
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                            -E-Flite: 1.2m P-47, Maule, Turbo Timber, 1.5m AT-6, 1.2m T-28, Dallas Doll, Viper, F-15, F-16, Wildcat, Carbon Cub -UMX: Mig-15, Pitts, Timber
                            -FMS: Bae Hawk Motion: 1.6m Corsair, 850mm Mustang, 1.6m Spitfire Freewing: 1.7m A-10, F-22,

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                            • crxmanpat
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                              • Oct 2014
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                              #194
                              I never have good luck using the spray cans. I prefer brushing it on with a fine bristle or foam brush.
                              Pat

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                              • Grossman56
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                                #195
                                From my experience, I've found that a brush will give you a glossier finish and an Air Brush will give you a duller finish. Probably something to do with blasting it on with air, but I'm not sure, I only know that its true.

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                                • AirHead
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                                  #196
                                  Originally posted by Russ

                                  I've been using Minwax for years on my foamies, thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Never thought of using it as a primer...nice!
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                                  • prestonowtm
                                    Hmmmm.

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                                    #197
                                    Originally posted by Grossman56
                                    From my experience, I've found that a brush will give you a glossier finish and an Air Brush will give you a duller finish. Probably something to do with blasting it on with air, but I'm not sure, I only know that its true.

                                    Grossman56
                                    Hey Grossman..Have seen you on here a ton and I know you have 2 or 3 FMS P51's. I had to buy a new fuse for my Redtail , got it all back together, and the freakin canopy will not lock down. Somewhere about the middle it feels like its pushing on something. I cut foam and cut foam then trimmed some more with no luck. The BB Doll canopy will not go on it either and the Redtail one that I am using snaps right on to the BB Doll. An ideas? The planes are set up exactly the same, receiver in the same spot et. So I know its not hitting on the RX. I cant find the issue anywhere...wondering if the fuse is screwed up but I cant find where..it's freakin brand new ! Did FMS change something you know of?

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                                    • Grossman56
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                                      #198
                                      Boy, that's a tough one, the only thing I can think of to do is to paint the bottom and sides of the hatch (I gather that what you're referring to is the whole hatch and not just the canopy) push it home and see where the paint is disturbed. Other than that, I really haven't any alternative. Hope that will at least show you where its hanging up.

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                                      • thisguy65
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                                        #199
                                        Grossman, what air brush do you use to spray minwax?
                                        Planes
                                        -E-Flite: 1.2m P-47, Maule, Turbo Timber, 1.5m AT-6, 1.2m T-28, Dallas Doll, Viper, F-15, F-16, Wildcat, Carbon Cub -UMX: Mig-15, Pitts, Timber
                                        -FMS: Bae Hawk Motion: 1.6m Corsair, 850mm Mustang, 1.6m Spitfire Freewing: 1.7m A-10, F-22,

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                                        • prestonowtm
                                          Hmmmm.

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                                          #200
                                          Originally posted by Grossman56
                                          Boy, that's a tough one, the only thing I can think of to do is to paint the bottom and sides of the hatch (I gather that what you're referring to is the whole hatch and not just the canopy) push it home and see where the paint is disturbed. Other than that, I really haven't any alternative. Hope that will at least show you where its hanging up.

                                          Grossman56
                                          That's a good idea...will try it tomorrow. hahaha I figured you might have something in that head of yours to help me.

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