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  • Woodcock
    Old Returning Pilot

    • Apr 2018
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    #1861
    Originally posted by rifleman_btx
    Dont built money pits that will suffer huge hits on the bottom line, build affordable stuff, I wanna see motion around a lot longer.
    100% agree. If ya spend too much, it hurts to much when you pancake one. I don't even like crashing my cheep planes.

    Woody

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    • Valkpilot
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      • Oct 2017
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      #1862
      Originally posted by crxmanpat
      More planes, less politics!

      I want to see a 3000mm B-36D with 6 a turnin' and 4 a burnin'! (Now would that be Freewing, or FlightLineRC? ;))

      The "four burning" would be the hard part, unless the jets were just decoration.

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      • fhhuber
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        • Aug 2015
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        #1863
        The EDFs on a 3 meter B-36 would be SMALL.
        They were added because on just 6 props the thing had trouble taking ff with full fuel and bomb load.
        The nature of e-powered models is to have 3X to 10X the power:weight vs the full scale... so just having dummy jet nacelles would be fine and help keep cost down. It would probably be fine (for scale performance) with the outboard props freewheeling with no motors.
        FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

        current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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        • Valkpilot
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          • Oct 2017
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          #1864
          Originally posted by fhhuber
          The EDFs on a 3 meter B-36 would be SMALL.
          They were added because on just 6 props the thing had trouble taking ff with full fuel and bomb load.
          The nature of e-powered models is to have 3X to 10X the power:weight vs the full scale... so just having dummy jet nacelles would be fine and help keep cost down. It would probably be fine (for scale performance) with the outboard props freewheeling with no motors.
          Nice idea, but most wouldn't probably buy it because it wouldn't be truly authentic, and the other four motors would have to be more powerful to counter-act the drag.

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          • themudduck
            -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

            • Apr 2017
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            • Burton OH (near Cleveland)
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            #1865
            No, with 6 motors the model would have GOBS of power in reserve. Fake jet-pods would look excellent and would not cause a lot of drag. I have a scratch-built B36 (9 foot wingspan) powered by six 100-watt brushless motors (9x7 props). It weighs 4.5 pounds loaded up. During the maiden flight I lost two props on one side and it flew really well, in fact when the first one came off I couldn't tell any difference at all. When the second one came off I decided to land! I'm only mentioning it because it just points out how over-powered our models are, in general.

            The maiden flight was taken before I finished it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40m_GJLLMQ
            (please excuse me, this video has got some parts where the cameraman was drunk apparently)

            A different example, just consider how grossly over-powered the MRC B-24 is.

            A giant B-36 from MRC would be incredible.
            Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

            Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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            • Valkpilot
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              • Oct 2017
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              #1866
              Originally posted by themudduck
              No, with 6 motors the model would have GOBS of power in reserve. Fake jet-pods would look excellent and would not cause a lot of drag. I have a scratch-built B36 (9 foot wingspan) powered by six 100-watt brushless motors (9x7 props). It weighs 4.5 pounds loaded up. During the maiden flight I lost two props on one side and it flew really well, in fact when the first one came off I couldn't tell any difference at all. When the second one came off I decided to land! I'm only mentioning it because it just points out how over-powered our models are, in general.

              The maiden flight was taken before I finished it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40m_GJLLMQ
              (please excuse me, this video has got some parts where the cameraman was drunk apparently)

              A different example, just consider how grossly over-powered the MRC B-24 is.

              A giant B-36 from MRC would be incredible.
              I was referring to the suggestion of only having four of the six props powered, with two "freewhelling". Faux jet pods wouldn't be any problem as I've seen a few multi-EDF planes where only two of the four are real.
              And, since they'd only be decoration, they could be optional if you wanted to make the A-C models.

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              • mr.frankenjet
                Eat, sleep, FLY FLY FLY !

                • Jan 2016
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                #1867
                sweet flight,she flys GREAT ! A big bomber is on my short list, only room for 1 though...............
                rc flyin addict

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                • lmramos44
                  Jet Pilot

                  • Mar 2014
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                  #1868
                  Originally posted by Valkpilot

                  Dammit Jim I'm a computer technician, not an economist! BTW the plane in the picture. How difficult is it to fly? I was thinking about one of it's little brothers, but thought it would be hard to fly.
                  90mm Hobbyking SkySword. It’s a *****cat to fly, good envelope and pretty fast. Clocked mine at 119 on a downhill run.

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                  • dkalwishky
                    Warbird Lover

                    • Sep 2015
                    • 1382
                    • Des Moines, IA
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                    #1869
                    Originally posted by themudduck
                    The maiden flight was taken before I finished it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40m_GJLLMQ
                    (please excuse me, this video has got some parts where the cameraman was drunk apparently)
                    That was very cool! She really doesn't need much runway once the wheels touch down.

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                    • Grady.c
                      Warbird Fan

                      • Apr 2018
                      • 178
                      • Colorado
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                      #1870
                      Originally posted by Jhnybgd
                      Still hoping for a twin 80 or 90 Mig 25 so I can put twin centerburners on it!
                      Im on Board with ya!

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                      • Grady.c
                        Warbird Fan

                        • Apr 2018
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                        #1871
                        Maybe make the engine pods with just one 70mm, it would make people would want the authentic jet and plane experience happy.

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                        • rifleman_btx
                          me

                          • Dec 2016
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                          #1872
                          Or a yb35, or yb47

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                          • Grady.c
                            Warbird Fan

                            • Apr 2018
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                            #1873
                            Id just be happy for any of those

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                            • rifleman_btx
                              me

                              • Dec 2016
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                              #1874
                              Yes!

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                              • fhhuber
                                Senior Member

                                • Aug 2015
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                                #1875
                                Originally posted by Grady.c
                                Maybe make the engine pods with just one 70mm, it would make people would want the authentic jet and plane experience happy.
                                To fit a 70 mm fan without grossly distorting the pod... you'd be looking at 4 meter + wingspan.

                                And there's why you don't want to play with EDFs on the B-36.
                                You either have tiny, useless EDFs, or one monster of a model.
                                FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                                current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                                • Craig Dieter
                                  Model aircraft pilot/crasher/saver

                                  • Dec 2017
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                                  #1876
                                  Rifleman, you nailed it. A B-35 Wing would be WAY cool. Did you know the B-35 actually beat the B-36 in competition?? John K.Northrop was a genius. WAY ahead of his time.

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                                  • Valkpilot
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                                    • Oct 2017
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                                    #1877
                                    Originally posted by Craig Dieter
                                    Rifleman, you nailed it. A B-35 Wing would be WAY cool. Did you know the B-35 actually beat the B-36 in competition?? John K.Northrop was a genius. WAY ahead of his time.
                                    But the USAF chose the B-36 because it was more stable on bombing runs than either YB-35 or-49(jet version). It took forty years for computers and stabilization technology to produce the B-2 which has the same dimensions as the 35 and 49.

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                                    • Valkpilot
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                                      #1878
                                      13 days until September 1st. The length of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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                                      • Aros
                                        Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                                        • May 2013
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                                        #1879
                                        This is my top wish list that I stay in Alpha's ear about, hoping one day Freewing with our assistance will come out with:
                                        • 70mm Twin SR-71 Blackbird (Both SR-71 and D-21 versions)
                                        • 80mm Twin B-1 Bomber
                                        • 80mm Twin Concorde with functional nose
                                        • 80mm Twin F-117
                                        • 70mm Twin B-2 Bomber
                                        • 2000mm F4U Corsair/BF-109G/Mustang/Stuka/B-17/B-25/P-38, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc........
                                        My YouTube RC videos:
                                        https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda

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                                        • Craig Dieter
                                          Model aircraft pilot/crasher/saver

                                          • Dec 2017
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                                          #1880
                                          Hey Valkpilot, go to YouTube and watch John Northrop’s final interview just before he passed away. It also interviews some of the test pilots of the B-35/B-49 series. They had the stability problem fairly well solved with a computer called “Little Herbert”. The Air Force also wanted the Wing and put out contracts for 250-plus airframes. Please watch the interview. It’s sad what happened and says something about the influence that can be used by some people. I love the B-35.

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