Freewing 90mm F-22 Raptor - Official Thread

[McDaniel]

Awe, I see what you’re saying. One side shows about 60mm from the control horn to the outboard portion of the flap, while the other side shows roughly 85mm measured distance from the control horn to the outboard portion of the flap. Also, one flap Servo has the Servo arm facing outboard, while the other flap Servo has the Servo arm facing inboard, which is interesting.

How many channels do you have available on your receiver and transmitter? Do you have any channels available/free to put each flap Servo on its own channel (would require removing the Servo leads from the MCBe board) and adjust accordingly?

I have a Jeti Rex7 Assist but could change to rex 10 Assist, but I am wondering about all the others out there....

[T-CAT]

I wanted to show, that the placement of the surfacehorn is not the same on both flaps, due to the servo position.

Awe, I see what you’re saying. One side shows about 60mm from the control horn to the outboard portion of the Flap, while the other side shows roughly 85mm measured distance from the control horn to the outboard portion of the Flap. Also, one Flap Servo has the Servo Arm facing outboard, while the other Flap Servo has the Servo Arm facing inboard, which is interesting.

How many channels do you have available on your receiver and transmitter? Do you have any channels available/free to put each Flap Servo on its own channel (would require removing the Servo leads from the MCBe board) and adjust accordingly?

[McDaniel]

Maybe you accidentally swapped a control rod for another surface, similar in length but not exact? I don't have my plane in front of me to verify my thinking.

I double checked everything...

[McDaniel]

Not sure what you are trying to show with the ruler. First make sure your servo horn are similar to each other and then adjust push rods as needed. If you can’t get it you may have to bypass the MCBe and go direct to the receiver and use separate channels so you can adjust center and throw.

The MCBe is nothing more than a Y.

I wanted to show, that the placement of the surfacehorn is not the same on both flaps, due to the servo position.

[SanExup]

Maybe you accidentally swapped a control rod for another surface, similar in length but not exact? I don't have my plane in front of me to verify my thinking.

[Evan D]

Not sure what you are trying to show with the ruler. First make sure your servo horn are similar to each other and then adjust push rods as needed. If you can’t get it you may have to bypass the MCBe and go direct to the receiver and use separate channels so you can adjust center and throw.

The MCBe is nothing more than a Y.

[McDaniel]

Hey guy's, I am a little lost here, how can I get the same flap throw of 32mm, when the geometrie of the rods are completely diffrent, should that be mixed by the blue box?
I get 32mm on one flap and 40 on the other!?!

Any ideas? Thanks
Daniel

[rifleman_btx]

I really couldn't tell you about the spektrum stuff. but on my FRsky, I have my stabilizer settings around 25%. it could probably go down a tick or two more, but its working fairly well at that level for me.

[JT83]

Hello rc world quick question I got a spectrum rx in my f 22 90mm what is a good starting point for as3x rate gains?

[Flamingo]

on my way to flying field
took the advise to use the styro to transport the raptor and to top with our always together Avanti

[rifleman_btx]

I agree, that would be awesome! I would be extremely happy with that in my edf planes!

[mshagg]

Yeah Ive taken a big old gulp of the Kool aid and fitted the frsky 8A BEC to the new raptor. Remote voltage adjustment from the tx and it even provides current draw from the BEC system via telemetry.

Hopefully they expand the neuron ESC line up to some higher current applications, they would be awesome for EDFs with the telemetry they provide.

[rifleman_btx]

I ended up with an x10s express, and still have my x10 from years ago when things had gotten bad for me and friends here stepped in and kept me going. I been really happy with frsky. My I really love the telemetry they provide and use it in my f22. Couldn't be happier with the combination.

[mshagg]

Nice! I just got the x20s also but I haven't set up a plan yet. Be interested to follow your setup.

I am by no means an expert but happy to share learnings. Logic switches are the key to doing more advanced programming.

The SR10 pro is a good choice as it has enough outputs for seperate ailerons and elevators (for taileron), seperate nose wheel steering and a channel left over to drive the gear door servo. Of course you can always run sbus adapters but it's very neat doing it just with the Rx.

Also managed to tuck an Archer RS receiver in redundant configuration down in the tail section near the stab servo. Frskys new stuff is seriously good!

Another mod I did was to solder up jr pins onto the ribbon cable to plug the aileron and flaps direct to the Rx. In my other raptor I just ran servo extensions out to the servos but it was painful pulling them through all of the right angles in the fuselage - if I had to guess I would say they wire this bird up in the factory before the two main halves of the fuse are glued together. If not, the technician on that part of the production line has the patience of a saint!

[Gary S.]

Just built up my second one of these as my original, now a TVd Thunderbird, flies and ground handles fairly wonky after hundreds of flights and a few decent crashes.

Managed to completely delete the blue box at the cost of removing the landing light, with the radio (X20S/SR10 Pro) now handling the gear door sequencing. With the added bonus that there is no longer a 5 second delay after hitting the gear switch lol.

Also something I've been wanting to experiment with for a while is applying ultracote to a foam plane. The shapes on the top of the fuse would be a little too complex to do it neatly but the stabs, fuse underside and leading edges all have some decent (and nearly invisible) protection from hangar/transport dings now. I think it's a technique I'll use again going forward.

Will be running this on 8S 9S and 10S with the FMS 1500kv. Put the latter on the test stand and measured 6.4kg of static thrust but the amps are not sustainable. A respectable 4.8kg on 8S. Don't have the packs fory 9S config yet, but I guess somewhere around 5.5kg at a more sustainable load on the batteries. Obviously lose some of that when it goes in the guts of the plane.

I would post some photos but it's basically a bone stock F22 with a pitot tube hanging out the nosecone.

Nice! I just got the x20s also but I haven't set up a plane yet. Be interested to follow your setup.

[JT83]

Thanks Gary and Evan I've only been in the hobby since last may. Lots to learn yet but ya I like a good challenge with pop type aircraft I believe u gain lots more knowledge in the hobby that way. It just amazes me in how much u can modify and the wide range of power system con be configured into the f22 90mm bird.i started with spectrum and I have no complaints about their technology. I don't mind paying a bit more for top quality product!!!

[mshagg]

Just built up my second one of these as my original, now a TVd Thunderbird, flies and ground handles fairly wonky after hundreds of flights and a few decent crashes.

Managed to completely delete the blue box at the cost of removing the landing light, with the radio (X20S/SR10 Pro) now handling the gear door sequencing. With the added bonus that there is no longer a 5 second delay after hitting the gear switch lol.

Also something I've been wanting to experiment with for a while is applying ultracote to a foam plane. The shapes on the top of the fuse would be a little too complex to do it neatly but the stabs, fuse underside and leading edges all have some decent (and nearly invisible) protection from hangar/transport dings now. I think it's a technique I'll use again going forward.

Will be running this on 8S 9S and 10S with the FMS 1500kv. Put the latter on the test stand and measured 6.4kg of static thrust but the amps are not sustainable. A respectable 4.8kg on 8S. Don't have the packs fory 9S config yet, but I guess somewhere around 5.5kg at a more sustainable load on the batteries. Obviously lose some of that when it goes in the guts of the plane.

I would post some photos but it's basically a bone stock F22 with a pitot tube hanging out the nosecone.

[Evan D]

Evan D please.

[Gary S.]

I agree, HH fills in a gap between desire to do and the knowledge required to make it happen. They also have many great planes. I'm not a spectrum guy per se since I use openTX. I enjoy doing more advanced flight controls. Not Even D level stuff, that's super cool, next level. The FW / MRC jets among others invite you to be as simple or complex as you like. JT83 welcome to the club, you picked a jet with a very wide and forgiving flight envelop, you should have lots of fun.

[Evan D]

HH products are good if you fly Spektrum, you can download an entire set up that works well. Setting up other's makes you think about what you want to do ...