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  • rifleman_btx
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    • Dec 2016
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    #1121
    I have the thunderbird, with the high performance 6s power system, and fly off grass all the time with it. No issues

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    • Hugh Wiedman
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      • Jan 2018
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      #1122
      Originally posted by Helmsman52
      Hello everyone! I’m looking to buy the Freewing F-16 Thunderbirds livery.
      Couple questions… it the white color a non painted foam or actually painted white? How are the grass opps? I have quite a few Roaringtop 6s 5500 70c 825gr lipos.
      I appreciate the help! Thanks!
      Same as rifleman_btx, although mine is running on the 6s 12 blade inrunner, but shouldn't be any real difference. And do yourself a favor and deep six those RT's and get an SMC 6200 40C graphene lipo instead, weight 814 gr, 43X52X160, about the same cost but actual C of 38-39C, where the RT 70C is more like 33C, with lower individual cell amps and of course higher individual cell IR. Used to have a boatload of them, was lucky to finally sell all my RT off just this year (at a discount), that is of course the ones that didn't go bad in the first year (something they have become known for). I even fly my F-16 on grass with an SMC 8100 20 C (actual tested C more like 28-29C), weight 903 gr for minimum of 5 minutes of flight time. I know guys, I always sound like an SMC lobbyist, but after spending over $10,000 in all kinds of brands and testing them, the SMC's are right now the only one to go with for Actual higher discharge C, cost and oddly enough weight (Liperior's are close, but they weigh at least 10-15% more and China Hobby's are supposed to be close as well). SMC's 5300 is another outstanding battery and weighs in at an incredibly low 684 gr.
      Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
      Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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      • jasmith41
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        • Sep 2021
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        #1123
        Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman

        Same as rifleman_btx, although mine is running on the 6s 12 blade inrunner, but shouldn't be any real difference. And do yourself a favor and deep six those RT's and get an SMC 6200 40C graphene lipo instead, weight 814 gr, 43X52X160, about the same cost but actual C of 38-39C, where the RT 70C is more like 33C, with lower individual cell amps and of course higher individual cell IR. Used to have a boatload of them, was lucky to finally sell all my RT off just this year (at a discount), that is of course the ones that didn't go bad in the first year (something they have become known for). I even fly my F-16 on grass with an SMC 8100 20 C (actual tested C more like 28-29C), weight 903 gr for minimum of 5 minutes of flight time. I know guys, I always sound like an SMC lobbyist, but after spending over $10,000 in all kinds of brands and testing them, the SMC's are right now the only one to go with for Actual higher discharge C, cost and oddly enough weight (Liperior's are close, but they weigh at least 10-15% more and China Hobby's are supposed to be close as well). SMC's 5300 is another outstanding battery and weighs in at an incredibly low 684 gr.
        Fully agree with you on the SMCs - awesome battery. Deep sixing the RC Battery Liperiors too - wish i'd have know more when i wasted money on them... SMC, HRB, Admirals - only ones i'm buying going forward...

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        • gooniac33
          The Original Gooniac

          • Jun 2016
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          #1124
          AR637T has made this a much better flying plane!! I had no idea how bad the new LemonRX had become and will no longer be getting them.. all the old ones work great but new diversity style are horrible!!

          Here is mine flying with new Socokin 4s 5200mah packs in series... FMS 1500kv 8s Fan installed...

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          • xviper
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            • Jan 2014
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            #1125
            Originally posted by gooniac33
            AR637T has made this a much better flying plane!! I had no idea how bad the new LemonRX had become and will no longer be getting them.. all the old ones work great but new diversity style are horrible!!

            Here is mine flying with new Socokin 4s 5200mah packs in series... FMS 1500kv 8s Fan installed...

            I won't get the Lemon that has only the diversity antennas on the main RX alone. I will, however, continue to get the ones where you can add a satellite diversity antenna - primarily their 10-ch DSMX/P ones. Then I add one of the new HobbyEagle gyros, primarily the EVO. This combination (old HobbyEagles) has worked tremendously well for me in many planes for years.
            But as you say and I agree ................... the one with only the diversity on the main RX unit alone is a bust. And yes, the 637T is a wonderful option (which I use also) but I can buy the 10-ch + satellite + HobbyEagle EVO, have 4 extra channels for other things and still have 40 bucks left over.

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            • Helmsman52
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              • Jan 2017
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              #1126
              Help please…
              I purchased the gooniac light burner and I cannot get it to operate other than with the servo tester.

              I have a Futaba 18SZ. I’ve tried a separate channel, Y’d it off the throttle channel and even disconnected the burner ring that came installed and connected in its port.

              One thing I noticed is the red light on the burner board has a continuous flash no matter what I attempt with the motor disconnected to the esc.
              When I connect back to the esc it will flash then blackout at 50% the turn red then start flashing again as I keep increasing.

              I’ve tried end points adjustments and sub trim to note.

              Thanks and I appreciate any suggestions!

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              • Evan D
                I'll fly anything

                • Jan 2016
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                #1127
                Can I suggest contacting Ray? Gooniac33.

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                • Icarus the 2nd
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                  • Aug 2018
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                  #1128
                  Here's a recent flightvid by one of my clubmembers

                  https://www.youtube.com/icarusthe2nd

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                  • rifleman_btx
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                    • Dec 2016
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                    #1129
                    Originally posted by Icarus the 2nd
                    Here's a recent flightvid by one of my clubmembers

                    I fly my thunderbird all stock, and love it. One of my favorite to take out and fly

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                    • PatrickVn
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                      • Nov 2022
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                      #1130
                      Originally posted by Cape Jets
                      Another winter project completed. 😀 Equipped her with a Spektrum AR 637T Receiver and added a sound card for turbine sounds and of course afterburner.. Power is a 9 Blade 90mm 3672/1900kv Inrunner with a 130amp ESC. Upgrade to Hitec D85-MG servos for the elevator control. 2 Coats Poly to brighten her up. All rates set (Spoilerons and Flaperons ) and forward programing was completed for Safe and AS3X modes. Another great looking plane that might end up a Show Bird until I can master my landings.... Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2325.JPG Views:	693 Size:	121.6 KB ID:	304335Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2326.JPG Views:	661 Size:	176.3 KB ID:	304336Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2327.JPG Views:	661 Size:	192.1 KB ID:	304337
                      What kind of Poly product did you use to brighten her up and how did you apply it ? Looks great :-)

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                      • TMoyer
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                        • Feb 2017
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                        #1131
                        Has anyone used the Admiral Pro 6s 6000 packs in the F-16? I have several of these packs for other FW EDF’s. I am wondering if they would physically fit in the fuselage and if so, would they be to heavy since the recommended pack is the Admiral 6s 5000.
                        Thanks, Travis

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                        • Hugh Wiedman
                          Demolition Pilot

                          • Jan 2018
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                          #1132
                          Originally posted by TMoyer
                          Has anyone used the Admiral Pro 6s 6000 packs in the F-16? I have several of these packs for other FW EDF’s. I am wondering if they would physically fit in the fuselage and if so, would they be to heavy since the recommended pack is the Admiral 6s 5000.
                          Thanks, Travis
                          I'm using an SMC 8000 mah pack weighing 903 gr and the 12 blade inrunner, so I think the Admiral should be OK. I forgot how much the current Admiral pack weighs, maybe something like close to 900 gr if I remember. Try the new HiV SMC 6200's at 848 gr, definitely one of the best packs around with a higher actual discharge rate.
                          Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                          Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                          • TMoyer
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                            • Feb 2017
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                            #1133
                            Hugh,
                            Thanks. And you have no problem physically fitting the SMC 8000 in the F-16? When I talked to Motion tech support they thought the Admiral possibly might be to large to fit in the battery compartment.
                            Travis

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                            • Cape Jets
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                              • Dec 2020
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                              #1134
                              Originally posted by PatrickVn

                              What kind of Poly product did you use to brighten her up and how did you apply it ? Looks great :-)
                              I use MinWax Polycrylic Clear Gloss with foam brushes. It will really make the white and colors pop and give it a good protective coating as well. First light coat and scuff up with blue scrotch-brite pad, by scuff up I mean lightly run the pad over all coated surfaces. They 1 more coat alittle heavier and re-scuff again. Then a heavy last coat and it will shine.(no scuffing after last coat) Stay away from the control hinges with the coating.

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                              • Hugh Wiedman
                                Demolition Pilot

                                • Jan 2018
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                                #1135
                                Originally posted by TMoyer
                                Hugh,
                                Thanks. And you have no problem physically fitting the SMC 8000 in the F-16? When I talked to Motion tech support they thought the Admiral possibly might be to large to fit in the battery compartment.
                                Travis
                                No problem. Dimensions and weights are as follows:
                                Admiral 6000 mah: 45X58X163 910 gr
                                SMC 8100 mah: 45X62X160 903 gr
                                SMC 6200 mah: 43X52X160 814 gr
                                SMC HiV 6200 mah: 50X50X150 848 gr

                                Any of the SMC, IMO is a better option. The 8100 for longer flight times and the HiV 6200 for acrobatics. I fly off of grass so I need the superior performance of higher discharge rate for take-offs, although the 8100 gets off just fine.
                                Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                                Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                                • TMoyer
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                                  • Feb 2017
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                                  #1136
                                  Hugh,
                                  Thank you for the information. Also good to know that you are able to takeoff from grass as well. My field is grass. We keep it well manicured and cut very low, so I didn’t think it would be an issue. All my other EDF’s don’t have a problem with it.
                                  Travis

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                                  • JustPlaneChris
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                                    • May 2021
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                                    #1137
                                    Hey guys! I'm wondering if someone can take some measurements for me on their F-16? I'm trying to determine if the landing gear would be an appropriate size for a scratch built A-7 Corsair I'm working on. The F-16 main gear isn't exactly correct for the A-7, but it's similar enough to the A-7 gear that I think I can make it work. The issue is it seems as if the main gear is all one unit, meaning if it's not a wide enough track for my fuselage then it won't work. So, could someone measure the wheel to wheel distance when extended, and also the distance between the hinge points on the main struts where they pivot? Thanks much! Here's an in-progress picture of my A-7 just for fun. :)

                                    Chris

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                                    • Captain Moron
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                                      • Jun 2019
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                                      #1138
                                      About to buy the 90mm F16
                                      I see it comes with a pre installed afterburner. How is this fitted into receiver IE what channel in the receiver does it plug into and do you have to set it up in the transmitter has well ????

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                                      • Evan D
                                        I'll fly anything

                                        • Jan 2016
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                                        #1139
                                        By the instructions it's "Y'ed" to the throttle channel. Some don't like the point where it starts to go orange so they plug it into a separate channel and mix it.

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                                        • Tigerman
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                                          • Jan 2018
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                                          #1140
                                          thanks Evan D That is what I needed to know.Nothing to comlicated ..Was going to get the Eflite F16 but given up waiting for them to come back in stock over here in the UK.

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