Official Black Horse 2350mm Gilmore Red Lion

[Twowingtj]

gijon Welcome to Hobby Squawk! How big of a piece of covering are you looking for? Have you flown the Gilmore? If so, how is yours set up?

Motion RC usually brings in spares when new shipments arrive. Sometimes they come in on a seperate container.

[gijon]

Hello,
I have a 92" BH Gilmore Red Lion and need some parts. Mainly, I need some pieces of the covering material. If anyone has any spare parts from an incomplete kit or a crashed victim, Please contact me.
I would also like to find the horizontal stab or elevators as well.
Thanks for looking.

NOTE: I have contacted Motion RC about this and they do not have anything available.

[Twowingtj]

To all of you that have been waiting, the Glilmore Red Lion is back In Stock at the U.S. warehouse. Get'em while they're hot!

[Twowingtj]

TO HIGH TO HIGH , I haven't put a wattmeter on my system at this point, so I'm not sure what it's actually pulling amp wise.

I based my choice on the prop test data at the bottom of this product page http://shop.dualsky.com/ga6000-motor_p0145.html With the Sail 26x10, we are running near the upper range. The test data chart shows pulling 113A at 100% throttle. We don't know what brand prop they used to test. Amp draw can vary from prop to prop, depending on what brand, style, and other factors of the prop used.

My preference is to choose equipment that gives lot's of headroom so as not to stress the components. The recommended ESC range is 130A to 160A, so the 160A was chosen.

[TO HIGH TO HIGH]

Hi Twowingtj Have ordered the Dualsky motor the same as yours GA60000.9 160kv with 4 bolt pattern, Ordered 2 Sail 26 x 10 props from the USA , Ordered 2 spinners from ZYHOBBY.

Need to order a speed controller I see Hobbywing have a Platinum HV130AMP V4 would that be to small to use for the Black horse 60cc Gilmore or do I need a 160AMP like yours a Hobbywing flyfun HV 160AMP opto V5 with a 12s Setup.

I would say it will take some time to all the bits turn up.

[Twowingtj]

DaleD Happy New Year to you too and to all of the others following this thread.

It's definately not flying season for this kind of bird here right now. I too would like to see some more Gilmore build and flight reports posted here. Don't be shy folks!

I did see another Black Horse 60cc Gilmore maiden flight posted on YouTube, from a few months ago. It did not go well. It looked to be tail heavy and ended with a crash shortly after take off.

[DaleD]

Demand for this Gilmore has far exceded supply. As Motion RC's Tom has said, they are hand built to high quality standards and can only build so many at a time. There are other Gilmores out there by other factories. This particular Black Horse Gilmore model is, in MHO, the best of the Gilmores currently being produced. It really is worth the wait.

Thanks for this bit of info. I have no desire to purchase another so will wait till the BlackHorse is available.

Wish I could see more flying action but I understand it’s not flying season in some places now.

Happy New Year

DaleD

[Twowingtj]

Demand for this Gilmore has far exceded supply. As Motion RC's Tom has said, they are hand built to high quality standards and can only build so many at a time. There are other Gilmores out there by other factories. This particular Black Horse Gilmore model is, in MHO, the best of the Gilmores currently being produced. It really is worth the wait.

[TO HIGH TO HIGH]

Hi DaleD I got mine in Australia I also live in Australia it was the only one left on line that I could find in Australia and was located on the other side of the country and took a week for delivery, I was told that next Australian blackhorse shipment will NOT have any 2350 Gilmore Racer in it.

Good luck with your Gilmore Racer when one turns up.

[DaleD]

Hi Twowingtj I received my Blackhorse 2350 Gilmore today Looking to buy a electric motor for it the Dualsky 60cc motor comes in 2 kv 160 or a 180 which one do you recommend on a 12s setup and what glue did you use to glue on the windscreen and the things on the cowling.

Good afternoon ToHighToFly, would you kindly share your source for the Gilmore Racer? I’ve been checking the Motions RC site for almost a year now to no avail.

Thanks in advance

DaleD

[Twowingtj]

TO HIGH TO HIGH Welcome to Hobby Squawk!

Either of the DualSky 60cc motors will work fine. I chose the 160kv so I could turn a larger prop for a closer to scale look. It may also give a slightly better climb rate as the prop disc is larger. The 180kv will give more rpm, so faster prop speed. The trade off is that you'll need to run a slightly smaller diameter prop.

Not having the two motors to test, side by side, in this airframe, I can't say for sure which would be better from a performance and flight time perspective. That being said, I'm very happy with the 160kv motor.

For the canopy, Zap Formula 560 Canopy Glue was used. This a great product. It takes a while to dry, but it holds well and stays flexible. It also allows you to remove the canopy if needed later.

My cowl blisters were attached from the factory. If they weren't, I'd likely have used Zap Goo. Use as directed. Both products are available from Motion RC.

Please post your build progress and welcome as a fellow Gilmore Red Lion owner/pilot.

[TO HIGH TO HIGH]

Hi Twowingtj I received my Blackhorse 2350 Gilmore today Looking to buy a electric motor for it the Dualsky 60cc motor comes in 2 kv 160 or a 180 which one do you recommend on a 12s setup and what glue did you use to glue on the windscreen and the things on the cowling.

[Twowingtj]

RC ML I've used the RotoMax 100cc and have found it to be a well designed and good performing motor. The RotoMax line seems to have consistent quality across the various sizes.

A check of the product specs and customer reviews show that the 50cc should be a suitable choice for the Gilmore. Running the motor on 12S with a 24 x 10 or 12 prop would give optimal power and flight times.

[RC ML]

Would the Turnigy RotoMax 50cc Brushless outrunner motor be ok for the Gilmore ?

[Twowingtj]

Thimble Welcome to Hobby Squawk! That would be an excellent addition to any static display or picture with this classic aircraft.

[Thimble]

Now who’s serious enough to build a working 1931 Ford model AA Gilmore fuel truck to go with their plane? 😁👍

[Twowingtj]

RC ML Welcome to Hobby Squawk!

I'm very happy with the power set-up I chose for the Gilmore (see post #10 and #27). At over 200 watts per pound, it has power to spare. At the time my Gilmore was going together, the Admiral GP60 180kv motor wasn't available yet. It would be a good choice to power this bird as well. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the Gilmore has a lot of drag therefore, it will only go so fast, no matter how much power is available. It does replicate the scaled down 290+mph speed of the real vintage air racer well.

The servos that were used in my initial set-up were well above the torque needed, but were a "budget" brand I had on hand. At least one is having some centering issues. So the servos will all be replaced with either Pilot Titanium or Savox servos that I also have on hand. The Hi-tec HS-645MG servos recommended on the Gilmore's product page should be fine as well.

If you haven't already read through this thread, it might be helpful to do so before you start your build. Black Horse did a fine job with the ARF as it is. Many of the tips mentioned in the thread could help the build go smoother and make later maintenance efforts easier.

Please share your build progress here as well. We all would like see how you set yours up and would enjoy seeing or hearing about your first flights.

[RC ML]

I got myself a nice present .
I found a Gilmore on the shelf in a store , bought it and now waiting for the present to come to my hangar.
Twowingtj , Is there anything else from the engine / esc /servos that you would change ? Since i have to buy a complete new set, it would be nice to know what to buy or what not . Thanks

[Twowingtj]

During my usual post season aircraft inspection, I discovered that one of the Gilmore's elevator servos was not consistently centering. That is the most likely cause of the sensitive feel in the elevator control system. A new set of servos will be going in. All else looked good.

Maybe the Gilmore Red Lion will be back in stock soon. I know that there are several future Red Lion pilots still waiting for theirs.

[bbolz]

I decided to go with the nexus bear at and paint it and ordered the Callie rare bear decals.